Eclipse vs Maxima

Eclipse: better cd no hp
Maxima: more hp

Result = Maxima

Corvette: better cd and hp
Maxima: more hp and lighter

Result = maxima

you are forgetting that the maxima is 1000 lbs less than the vette... so if the maxima has equal or more horsepower it is going to be faster the higher in mph they go.. because its less weight to push and then the physics comes in to play again.. so now all variables get thrown out the window again and cd is no longer relivant.

 

No as above it was C5Oden^

 

Forget all the BS good run! I have enough confidence in your car that you can take that vette!!!






and for you ignorant a@@@@es a freaking civic spanked a vette!!!if you dont believe me go the vette forums and do the search thingy!!!
dude was not too happy about that one, but was man enough to post and admit to it!!Also this dude thats running this turbo is putting lots of HP!!!think about it its a freaking turbo!!!and also if I am not mistaken he broke an axle already!!what more proof do you need!!

 

Yes ,Yes as wind becomes the issue!

 

SM,
The Vette is 3250 lbs and forget that it weighs even a pound more . more like 100 less>

 

ok

 

WHERE and when> $3000 two out of three. I will put it up tomorrow!

 

G35 with sport package = .26 cd

that means highway monster???

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/compa...9/page003.html

 

my ding-a-ling is bigger than yours.

 

hmmmmmmmm....this all started with turbo97 runnning with a vette from a roll

and why r u challenging a 4dr family car with ur vette??

both r great cars for different reasons.
PEACE!

 

As speed increases hp to go faster goes exponential

 

uhhhhh..... he said ding-a-ling

 

I think its actually proportional to the square of the velocity effect - so though not linear, the increase is not as dramatic as an exponential function. Drag Force = 0.5*Cd*p*(v^2)*(l^2), where Cd is the coefficient of drag, p is the fluid density (air for an auto), v is the velocity, and l is the characteristic length (which is essentially constant between cars).

 

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so you want to race me now?

 

Yes,if I can bring what I own. Not my Max

 

are u coming from WI?

 

I was so about to say that exact same thing.

 

insert [popcorn smiley]

poor nigel, always causing hate and discontent.

 

I watched z06's run all day today... they were running 12.85 consistently with a good driver.

 

Once you get to high speeds it's mostly about HP and drag; honestly weight doesn't truly play as much a role as you would think...

http://autopedia.com/stuttgart-west/...Physics06.html

And as was mentioned the vettes are only around 3200 lbs.

Check your facts before making such posts; remember you represent the entire Maxima community.

 

ok

 

first off i don't know where this challenge of See5 came from.. i am not running the same amount of boost as Nigel(the original person who won this race in this thread) .. if See5 wants to wait for me to get to that level.. and then drive out here to CT.. then i will gladly race him..

 

It came from my getting carried away tryng to make the point that, as speed increases aerodynamics become an a dominant factor which it takes exponential horsepower to overcome.
I do not see how we can safely demonstrate this fact so I withdraw my offer to demonstrate the fact.
In a quarter mile event where top speed is relatively low and average speed is much lower aerodynamics are a relatively minor factor in elapsed time.

Peace

 

what about my question,* if you turbo a G35 with sport package with the .26 cd & give it like 350hp flywheel just like a stock C5 vette, will the G35 be able to reach 160+ & beat the corvette on the highway???

 

Sounds like it should. It would then depend on the relative power to weight ratio of the two.

Where did you see the the .26 claim ??

 

Found the .27cd and .26cd with spoiler on the Infinity web page.
That is impressive!

 

yeah! I got it from here too
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/compa...9/page003.html

I read a motortrend review somewhere that they said they did something to to bottom of the car & made it really flat or something??

 

It's very impressive indeed; a lot of work went into the skylines in japan, and the G35 has reaped the reward. The aero package is very expensive though, and of all the G35s I've seen none have had it installed.

See5, have you seen the new C6 slated for '05? Even makes us import guys shudder (at least me anyways).

 

Yeah, zero lift. The shape of an automobile causes the flow of air over the top of it to go faster than the flow of air underneath the car; much like an airplane wing. At really high speeds the car will actually begin to experience center of gravity shifts upwards, but the zero lift keeps the COG in a constant postition over the ground.

Usually the manufacturer uses rear wing spoilers to push the rear end down (like those huge Porsche wings), but Nissan tuned the underbody of the car to manipulate air flow on the G35; the result is zero lift without a wing kit!

Really a remarkable car.

 

Yes, I have seen the projected drawings. I hope it will be smaller, lighter and have more power. I am planning on one in 06 unless there is a 350Z tt that offers similiar performance.

 

Did anyone bother to read this? Lighten up, people!

Great run, Nigel.

Btw, I was hoping that the C6 would be a DOHC V8, but it probably won't. It would have been a nice step up, y'know? The LS1 is already aluminum, and a 32v DOHC version would be great.

 

They,the design team,have vowed to beat the Viper which has 500hp in 03.

 

cough cough.....LT5.....cough cough.....

(Chevy put an all aluminum 32v DOHC V8 in the vette a few years back......)

 

I agree with this post right here ^^^^^^^^^. All things factor in to the way a vehicle operates. The weight, the drag coeficient, the horsepower, and the torque. At lower speeds, the weight of the vehicle and the torque are going to play a very large part in how the vehicle drives. Also, look at the engine/drive setup. A Z06 with Front engine, rear transaxle drive is going to bite better from a start. At high speeds, its not going to be much of an advantage except for handling issues. At the higher speeds, the CD and the horsepower are going to be important. I think its safe to say that each of these vehicles has its advantages, and each has its downfalls. Lets be honest, you didn't buy your max to strictly race. If you had, you wouldn't have but one seat in it. A vette wasn't made to haul the wife and 3 kids around. Its a comparisson that can be debated all day, and no one will come on top. FACE IT!

 

yeah...nigel's "372.1 fwHP, 369.2 fwft-lbs @ 11.5 psi"

So like maybe Nigel should lower his car a lil, get awesome tires...possibly a good aero kit, and maybe a park bench spoiler to help out the aerodynamics. Since he was running at the same rate as the vette then maybe all that is needed to actually prove that he can beat it (even though i'm sure his sleeper would walk the vette if they raced to 160mph...just my faith in him).

Has anyone ever driven on a straightaway in their max at around 120MPH? I did tonight as I was racing a 325i... i could've sworn i was only at 90mph but i was too busy playing with my bass boost. Then I look and there's the needle sitting over the 120mph mark... oh, and i'm completely stock but on crap tires. I'm assuming Nigel's "dance" with the vette at 120mph would've been much smoother for him.

 

Early on someone saidI completely disagree with this. First off a Viper will wipe the road with a Vette Z06 or not. Takes a lot of mods on a vette to catch a 450-500 hp stock 10 cyl car. Many cars can be made to beat a Vette in a 1/4 mile but will need to be modded with the Vette staying stock. A highly modded vette can run 11s or even 10s. If you really wanted to race competitively you'd never buy a Maxima and go the Camaro/Muctang/Vette route or as others have stated- a Supra. But the Domsetics have a lot of bang for the buck. Or for minimal investment, but a sportbike. I guarantee I can beat anyones car on this forum when I'm on my bike.

 

Just from what I've read..

I think its cool that some of the guys here with max's can even talk about running with vette's and Vipers.. Were talking a $70+ car (stock) and possibly a $28+ (heavily mdd) cars.. Idk, I think you guys with T's & SC'd max's that run under 13's just kick all mighty ****.. I didn't see any posts in here yet that actually state that we are talking about a $70+ against something a QUARTER the price!!!!! just my thoughts..

 

A confusing math problem. Look for more info on it in umm I think it was this months copy of Turbo. Or do a search for like phsics problems online. You will find it eventually.

SuDZ

 

We go back to the whole "why get a ferrari or other exotic car when it takes about $100k (in mods) to get a Skyline Vspec to 700-800HP?"