Yes, I know your tired of me trying to change the world and it's drivers with different threads about how you should drive but here's another.

When I see a cop on the side of the road, I will flash on coming traffic for a couple of miles to warn them. Anyone else heard of this or practice it? I used to live in Dallas where people would frequently do this, now I go to school in po dunk Oklahoma where no one knows how to drive.

So what do you use your driving lights for?

I also turn on my lights if their is overcast and it is a little dark outside, even though my visibilty of the road is fine. People don't realize that a dark, or grey car against the shadowed skyline is almost invisible without lights, especially when it's surounded by good drivers who use their lights. I also constantly flash those who drive slow in the fast lane and continue to do so even if the center lane opens up. IF they don't move they get a couple of honks, then I soak em with my window washer fluid and raise my hand out the window in victory when they move over, or I'll clap for the retard for figuring out that he's a moron and not the only one on the road.

Last, I have really bright Cuzo bulbs which let other import drivers know that I like to play.

 

You are a jerk.

 

LOL
I swear to god, if that was you flashing and honking....
j/k

I always turn on my headlights/driving lights. 100% of the time.
My infiniti was totalled because the one day (literally) I didn't turn on my lights, someone didnt see me and pulled out from a stop sign and I T-Boned them at 40MPH. Now I am highly paranoid and that's the first thing I do when I start the car.

 

Headlights, obviously...

 

Maybe, but at least I'm not a mindless drone with a blank stare, just driving down the road, like duhhhh. People should pay attention and be curtious.
Get out of the way, thats what the left lane is for, faster drivers. Driving slow in the fast lane shows that you are self centered and could care less about other people, that you being in your chosen comfortable lane is more important than any reason some one may have for going the speed limit or slightly above, and lasts shows that you don't know how to drive.
I have no patients for people who do not pay attention to others around them. All those people who back into your car out in the parking lot because their not paying attention, leave the grocery cart out to slam into your car on a windy day, or even if your 10 yards away will pull out in front of you on a side street making you slam on your brakes.
Yes I am a jerk to these people because it is debatable whether they are really alive, or just mindlessly floating through life.

 

If there is somebody driving slow in the fast lane, that just gives you a reason to start weaving. j/k

Honestly, the only thing that makes me mad about other drivers is one of two things:

1) People who pull out right in front of you even though there is an open lane right beside you to pull into

and

2) Jerks who will tailgate you, honking, even though you cannot help your situation due to the car in front of you. Example, like when I-20 turns into one-lane by Canton, whats the point of tailgating if you aren't going anywhere?

 

I agree, people who pull out on a two lane road and choose the lane you are in even though the other is open is 'sofa king we tall did.'
I also agree about tail gaters who get on your a$$ when their is no where to go, kind of like the guy who revs at you on a busy highway or side street; do they expect you to push the guy in front of you out of the way?

But on a serious note you are right about the guy driving slow in the fast lane giving you a reason to weeve. I have seen it a million times, someones blocking the slow lane making the guy behind him have to get in the center lane to pass, this happens just as someones coming over from the slow lane to either avoid slower traffic or get out of the way of traffic entering the highway.
The guy driving slow is at fault, if he were out of the way traffic wouldn't be piled up behind him, and no one would have to weave in and out of different lanes (these lanes were not designed as passing lanes) to get by his slow inconsiderate @$$.

 

Yup! I know it well. I should add that there was another cop on the other side of the road watching me and he pulled a u-turn and pulled me over. I gave me an earful that I was helping people that they are trying to catch breaking the law. He cut me a break and I left. Later I thought about it and the guy was right. People here in MA run red lights like no tomorrow. That's when I stopped flashing my lights to help other knuckheads break the law.

Be careful with flashing your lights.

 

I should have been more clear, I do this on the highway where speed limits are ridiculously low. I can drive 80-90 very comfortably, but not everyone has such a silky smooth V6 and suspension. I would hope that someone on the highway would warn me that their is a cop over the hill.
I do know what your saying though, cops find people who are wanted or have warrants through traffic stops. It just kind of sucks that they don't just check your record and send you on your way if your clean. Get the revenue from jackholes driving slow in the fast lane causing people to weeve in and out of lanes that were meant for driving not passing, causing accidents and frustration.

 

i turn my lights on and off about 3 or 4 times when i see someone driving without them on ... how you can drive at night with no headlights is mind boggling ... i once did a test where i drove without my headlights on to see how many people flashed me to turn them on ... i think it was something like 3 out of 100 something cars did so ...

 

I know in Germany flashing your lights to warn of speed traps are very common. I have to say that germans are some of the most courtious drivers I ever seen. Very rarely are people traveling in the fast lane going slow. And if that, you put on your left flasher they usually always get the hell out of the way.

 

wats wrong with flashing the slow dumba$$es that loves to drive in the fast lane??
i do it, and if they dont get out of my way, i jus go aroudn them and cut them off....if i'm really ****ed, i'd get in front of them and slow down until they switch lanes, then if they try to get back in front of me, i go faster so that they can't get by

 

They DO check your record. I have gotten off with a warning many times because I was courteous and my record was clean.


He is a jerk because he soaks them with washer fluid and raises his hand out the window and "claps for the retard". As for the other stuff you mentioned, I did that kind of stuff too when I was 16, until I grew up and realized there is no point being a traffic vigilante because people will continue to drive poorly regardless of what you do to them. To me it doesn't make sense to combat poor driving by being an a$$. I would rather just go around them and be on my way.

 

not a safe test....

but anyways, I don't like the cars with the daytime running headlights because the headlights are always on while the tails are off. I see it on the previous gen camrys a lot. It's a good feature and everything but it's also not safe for the person behind. It has its ups and downs.

When I first saw the subject of this thread, i was like duh..you use it for driving during a hint of darkness. I also use my HIDs to light up a small Pennsylvanian town.

 

I am aggressive and defensive at the same time...hard to explain. I try not to tailgate because rear-ending someone is really stupid unless it's aboslutely their fault (a very rare occurrance, hence the ticket for follwing too closely will ensue), so I try not to tailgate. I also leave a lot of space in stop/go traffic jams, and try to allow others space to move over whenever I can.

However, when someone cuts me off, throws something out their window at my car, then I usually honk, flip them off, pass them at a high speed and pull over right in front of them.

If someone is in my lane going too slow for me with plenty of room to move over, I creep up and tailgate for a sec, back off, and see if they move over. If they don't move over I flick them with my high beams. If they still don't move over I gesture for them to move over with my hands and flick the highs again. If they STILL don't move over, then I pass them ASAP and pull right in front of them, flick them off, beep, or whatever. (if my car is dirty I will use windshield wiper treatment on occasion...especially if it's a convertible)

If someone tries to pass me illegally and cut me off when there is too much traffic for that kind of BS, then I speed up and do not let them over, trapping them behind whatever car they end up behind.

However, if they are polite drivers and signal, I let them over.

I am really nice until I get ****ed off. Then it's over.

 

I understand you have a personal reason to do this (just as I don't right or left turn onto a two-lane road when the appropriate target lane is open, but there's traffic coming in the other lane...my friends hate this if it's busy on the streets, but I got in an accident ruled my fault against the laws of physics), but if it's bright and sunny out, I see no point to daytime running lights. To me DRLs were one of those extraneous american-car-company things used so they could advertise it as a safety feature, like automatic lock engagement over 15mph. 95% of Chevy SUVs I see with DRLs have one bulb out - I've seen a few (literally, a few) with both on so I suspect this is normal operation. I can't imagine if the one-light-on symptom is costing people bulbs....unnecessary cha-ching for the bulb mfgr.

AFA the other junk about flashing and whatnot...I never flash people for anything. About the most someone gets out of me is the "WTF?" shoulder shrug with arms raised - if their acts were intentional, that's usually followed by a downshift. With drivers as I know them, I'd expect if I flashed my high beams, for mass confusion to occur, leading to who knows what. The driver would probably spin out, roll their SUV, and die, whereas I would be charged thanks to some unknown witness for vehicular homicide because I was flashing my high beams and I'm young, so I must have been overly aggressive.

 

GLE02NJ is right. it isn't safe to flash u lights like that.
remember wat happened in urban legends

 

that actually happened up in portland (oregon). Some chinese gang was driving around without lights and someone flashed them. They decided to follow the guy back to his house and they either stabbed him or shot him. There was a big warning all over the news about not doing that.

 

Although I agree that squirting washer fluid at another driver is a bit much, there is a whole
string of acts selfish, self-centered and uncaring drivers do every day. They include:

Cruising in the fast lane
Not using turn signals
Not turning them off after use
Tailgating
Driving in traffic with high beams on
Taking up more that one parking space
Flicking cigarette butts and other trash out the window
Double parking
Riding the brake petal thereby leaving the stop lights on
Parking that blocks a driveway
Parking in a handicap zone (when not handicapped, of course)
Driving alone in lanes or on ramps designated for two or more occupants

Alas, where are the cops when you need them?

 

He is a jerk because he soaks them with washer fluid and raises his hand out the window and "claps for the retard". As for the other stuff you mentioned, I did that kind of stuff too when I was 16, until I grew up and realized there is no point being a traffic vigilante because people will continue to drive poorly regardless of what you do to them. To me it doesn't make sense to combat poor driving by being an a$$. I would rather just go around them and be on my way. [/QUOTE]

The hole waving my hand out the window was a joke. The most I do is give them the thumbs up from inside the car, since they finally figured out how to drive.

I get a little frustrated when I am way back in traffic away from the guy who is driving slow in the fast lane. I always hope that someone will honk, flash their lights at him or somthing because I'm stuck back in traffic that he's causing and I can't get up to the front to try and get him out of the way. This is a major reason I act like such a jerk to someone driving slow in the fast lane, because their is a sea of people behind him that would like to have my position so they could get by him and tell him what a jerk he is.

*If you were in a hurry and were waiting in a grocery line, would you not say somthing to the guy in front of you if the register was open but he didn't put his groceries on the conveyer because he was reading a magazine and not paying attention. What would you do if you mentioned to him that the line was open and he looked at you then went back to reading his magazine still sitting in line, with his grocery kart blocking the way. What if people were waiting behind you, if you were one of the people in the back of the line would you not expect the second in line to say somthing to the guy blocking the way?

Of course you would say somthing, and if he still didn't move I bet a lot of you would make some noise. It is the same for the guy driving slow in the fast lane, your not being a jerk for flashing your lights at him (just like your not being a jerk for asking the guy in line to move.) If he still doesn't move like he should out of curtousy for others (and it's the law) then of course he can expect a reaction. The guy in the grocery line would get his legs broken for him if he just looked at me then went back to reading his magazine, the guy driving slow in the fast lane just gets some washer fluid on his windshield, thats not being a jerk, just being human.

 

wow.
That is simply the best analogy for slow drivers I have ever heard.
In fact I got stuck tonight on my way home. I was in the fast lane, going 65 past the slow lane at 55. All of a sudden this person in a celica cuts me off (also, nobody behind me) and proceeds to drive exactly 56 the entire 20 miles home. There was no way for me to go around and despite my repeated flashings, they refused to pull back over to the right. ARGH. Not to mention, the way the freeway is, the joints every 100 yards only jar the car when you're driving between 53 and 58 so I spent the whole time listening to my CDs skip.

 

Hey thanks, I'm an adjunct proffesor and making analogies of other situations that students can relate to the lesson plan is somthing that comes easy. I couldn't understand why some people were so up in arms about my actions towards slow drivers. One guy said that bad drivers are out their, and that I can't change them so I shouldn't act like an @$$.
That could be said of car vandals too. Some would say that if you see someone vandalizing another car you should not try and intervien and just call the police. Personally if I saw someone keying someones car I would kick the cr@p out of them. If I saw someone back into someone elses car and try and drive off I would jump on their hood. The reason is that I have been given a terrific opprotunity to help the person who owns the car, because they are not their to help themselves, same for the traffic behind the slow guy. I would want someone to do somthing if they saw someone vandalizing my car, and if I'm stuck in traffic because of some slow moron I would want someone to be up his @ss.
If you have the opprotunity you almost have an obligation to try and get him out of the way. Some might say thats the job of the police, but I hope you wouldn't wait on the police if you saw someone being hurt. If you do nothing to help those behind you then you are just as bad as the guy blocking traffic, because you have showed that you don't disagree with his actions, and you are uncurtious like he is by not helping others out.

 

nobody "causes" you to pass on the right. I do it all the time, but if you get in an accident it's YOUR fault, not the guy driving slowly in the left lane. He didn't turn your wheel, you did, so he didn't "cause" anything.

the chinese gang thing is still an urban legend... even if it was on the news. I saw a warning on the evening news about people hiding under cars and slashing women's ankles... that's an urban legend and it was on our news. Chinese gang killing for flashing lights = LEGEND.

I never flash to warn for cops. Let the a-hole speeders get a ticket.

My lights are on 1/2 before dusk and 1/2 hour after dawn, and always during rain.

Daytime running lights do reduce accidents. Why do you think motorcycles always have the lights on... to get noticed. Works the same for cars.

Germans aren't being polite when they move over, they're obeying their law. Their highway law states it's illegal to stay left when the lane to the right is open. Most likely s/he would have moved right at the first opportunity even if you didn't flash them.

By "driving 80 or 90" you probably "cause" as many accidents as the person going the speed limit in the left lane.

 

Of course you would say something to the guy in the supermarket line because you are communicating face-to-face. Your tone of voice, facial expression and body language would indicate that you are asking nicely. When we are driving we don't really have that luxury, so we are reduced to signalling through various means. Unfortunately, flashing your lights is seen as confrontational. Though you may feel that you are not being a jerk, many would feel you are.

I would have no problem moving over for somebody if they flashed their lights at me. But that assumes that they would have to catch up to me, which is very difficult

 

everyone of these posts are way too long, i start reading one and I am bored by the 8th word, anywho, be careful you never flash your lights off and on at night even for a split second, if a police man catches sight of this, in most states, its a ticket. You can never turn you lights off at night, no matter how long the period is. Just a heads up for those of you who didn't know.

 

ADHD?

 

haha no, just lazy

 

/on soap box/ I flash, why do you think they put the option to flash on your Hi beams. Other wise you would have to turn your Hi's on and off really quickly. It is called....(drum roll please)..."flash to pass!!" I also believe that blinkers are to be used religiously, they are your way of communicating to other drivers. Kind of like a "excuse me, thank you" kind of thing. But because of all the ignorant drivers on the road today when you put your blinker on that is their que to speed up and not let you in. For me I giv 3 blinks, no more no less. I see an opening I know I can fit into without someone having to put on their brakes and 1st flash = I'm coming over, 2nd = I'm on my way, 3rd = I am here. Or there is the person going slow and not moving out of the fast lane and you go to pass him on the right and they speed up to cut you off so that you can't get in front, you then fall back in behind them and they slow back down. (self rightous %^*&%^*& ignorant %$^&$%^& self appointed road police) If they feel I am driving to fast for them, or changing lanes too often, get the #$^% out of my way!! My wife does that, drives in the fast lane, doing 10 over, someone goes to pass her and she speeds up to cut them off so that they can't get in front of her. Her reasoning, "I was already driving 10 over, they don't have the right/need to go any faster than me" (Why I can't stand riding with my wife) I have to agree with whoever said it about Germany, they are courteous which is something we lack here on the mainland. Traffic would be so much better if everyone was courteous to atleast 1 car on their way home. /off soap box/

 

Being in Canada, I have daytime running lights.
This is how it works on the Max. During the day, your headlights are on, your tail lights are off.
At night, all lights are off unless you manually turn them on (or leave it in Auto). Your daytime running lights aren't on at night. That (as you mentioned) would be dangerous.
As you can see, it's been thought out and no, it isn't dangerous and no, it doesn't have downs. It is however, possible that older cars without sensors always had their daytime running lights. Those older cars fall in the dangerous category I agree. However, this has been dealt with.

 

I had my highbeams custom relayed for DRL's. Check my profile for the web link. It helps, especially since I use yellow bulbs. People do see you clearer. But when it starts to get dark, I turn on my parking lights in addition to the DRL's.

 

I don't think flashable high beams were invented for "flash to pass." I think it is to signal other drivers for things, like "hey dumbass, turn on your headlights" and stuff like that. I only use the flash once in a while if I'm in a good mood and want to warn some peeps of a speed trap. Of course I do it carefully cuz it's illegal.

I hate flash to pass, it's annoying. If the person in that lane is going speed limit or more, then **** off. If they are going under speed limit, then they shouldn't be there in the first place, and flashing isn't going to change thier mind. We get people out here who fly down the interstate and think that cuz they have thier left turn signal on in the fast lane that it means everyone should get out of thier way, and tailgate when they don't. That is the definition of a self centered *******. If the individual is going at least the speed limit, then they are under no obligation to get out of your way. They have no obligation to enable you to break the law. That's like getting mad at the guy who got in your way while trying to run from mall security because you were shop lifting.

 

Actually, if they're doing the speed limit in the left lane and the right/middle lane is empty then they have to move into the middle/right lane as left lane is only for passing purposes according to most traffic laws. Just because they're doing the speed limit doesn't mean they can just stay in the left/passing lane with all the other lanes empty. And if there's a car in the middle/right lane up ahead but it's going to take them more than a minute to get to them, they should switch back into the middle/right lane for that minute and then moving back into the left lane to pass (using their signals of course).

I have flashed people in the left lane coming up to them fast. I rarely do it but it's usually because the car doesn't check in their mirrors often enough and the high beams causes them to look in their mirrors and they see someone coming and switch lanes.

What I consider self-centered is when someone is doing exactly the speed limit and stays in the passing lane forcing other people to pass them on the right. If someone can pass you on the right, you're in the wrong lane (barring exceptions of course such as on-ramps/off-ramps or a truck passing another truck and everyone is in the left lane waiting to pass the truck themselves and other exceptions).

 

I totally agree. It is much easier for one person to move over and let traffic pass. Than it is for a bunch of cars to weeve in and out of traffic to get around one person.

 

for driving?