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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:40 AM
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Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!

OK...so, I made a "hyper" ground wire kit meself, and I like it
I couldn't justify the price either, so, I bought the following:

-- regular home wire (electrical wire) which has 3 8-gauge wires inside. raw wire
-- 12 ring terminals (for 8 gauge wire)
-- dielectrical grease
-- some sand paper

So, after making the wires (which is pretty straight forward), I
sanded down all of the ground points, greased 'em up nice, and re-
connected all of the ground wires, along with the new ones.

In this last pic, you can notice the wires all attached to the
battery ground...not sure if this is how the folks at hyperground do
it, but, it works for me.
battery terminal with new grounds

***OK I made a small boo-boo***
I placed some of the ground wires INSIDE the negative
battery terminal, preventing the terminal from properly
securing itself around the battery itself.

Therefore, if you decide to do this, keep the "new" ground
wires out of the middle of the terminal, and place them in
the outside.

You'll also note the wood in this pic...I'm working on a new battery
tray to go along with my Frankencar intake (without bend) so that the
battery and the intake don't rub each other the wrong way.

anyhow...hope this helps...I'll take more/better pics if there are
any questions on this.

take care,
FLO_BOY
Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:54 AM
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Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!

Originally posted by FLO_BOY
OK...so, I made a "hyper" ground wire kit meself, and I like it
I couldn't justify the price either, so, I bought the following:

-- regular home wire (electrical wire) which has 3 8-gauge wires inside. raw wire
-- 12 ring terminals (for 8 gauge wire)
-- dielectrical grease
-- some sand paper

So, after making the wires (which is pretty straight forward), I
sanded down all of the ground points, greased 'em up nice, and re-
connected all of the ground wires, along with the new ones.

In this last pic, you can notice the wires all attached to the
battery ground...not sure if this is how the folks at hyperground do
it, but, it works for me.
battery terminal with new grounds


i wil try and take some pics today was well..
You'll also note the wood in this pic...I'm working on a new battery
tray to go along with my Frankencar intake (without bend) so that the
battery and the intake don't rub each other the wrong way.

anyhow...hope this helps...I'll take more/better pics if there are
any questions on this.

take care,
FLO_BOY
Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:56 AM
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Re: Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!

Originally posted by redmaxpa007
was there a question?

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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Looks good. I'm sure it works as well as the Hyperground, but I was too lazy to do the extra work on a DIY kit.
Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:59 AM
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cool.. thanks for the pics
Old Oct 29, 2002 | 08:07 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!

Originally posted by FLO_BOY


was there a question?

FLO_BOY

opps...

i was gonna say i will try and take some pics of my hyper ground setup..

Old Oct 29, 2002 | 08:21 AM
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nice idea, came out good and you saved some $$$$$$
Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:00 PM
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Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!

Originally posted by FLO_BOY


***OK I made a small boo-boo***
I placed some of the ground wires INSIDE the negative
battery terminal, preventing the terminal from properly
securing itself around the battery itself.

Therefore, if you decide to do this, keep the "new" ground
wires out of the middle of the terminal, and place them in
the outside.
Here's a pick of what I mean:
battery terminal old pic

Ground fix
oh, and scroll to the bottom

later y'all
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!

Originally posted by FLO_BOY


was there a question?

FLO_BOY
don't mind him...he's just trying to bury his whoring
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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Hope that wood tray is temporary. It looks awful and would likely bend or rot due to moisture.

your hyper grounds look good but you didn't say what you hooked it up to.... And i only see 2 wires while the real one has about 7....
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by EZEMaxima
Hope that wood tray is temporary. It looks awful and would likely bend or rot due to moisture.

your hyper grounds look good but you didn't say what you hooked it up to.... And i only see 2 wires while the real one has about 7....
Yup...wood is temporary -- very temporary!!!
In fact, it's already out.

about the wires...there are actually more than two, but, not every
wire could connect back to the battery terminal because the terminal
would be too bulky and wouldn't attach to the battery.

That said, I attached some of the other cables to other ground points.

Does this sound right?
FLO_BOY
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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go to walmart and get a brass terminal.. its about 2-3 bucks. It looks much neater... I will try to get pics of my setup up as well.
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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Um...there's no way that's 8GA wire...
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by mzmtg
Um...there's no way that's 8GA wire...
how come? can you describe why?

It's definitely thick enough...
much thicker than 10GA, and much thinner than 4GA.

thanks,
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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Yea.. i was just about to post that.

that looks like 16 ga to me. or even less than that

8 gauge should be fairly large. like a thin pencil.

4 gauge is like a hose





Originally posted by mzmtg
Um...there's no way that's 8GA wire...
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by Chebosto
Yea.. i was just about to post that.

that looks like 16 ga to me. or even less than that

8 gauge should be fairly large. like a thin pencil.

4 gauge is like a hose

well, then either Home Depot lied to me, and mis-marked ALL of their stock...or, the pic isn't giving you a clear pic...If you look at
this pic you'll notice that the wire is close to the size of a pencil.

cheers!
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:00 AM
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Contact Ian about the MEVI deal.

Originally posted by Chebosto
Yea.. i was just about to post that.

that looks like 16 ga to me. or even less than that

8 gauge should be fairly large. like a thin pencil.

4 gauge is like a hose





Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by FLO_BOY


well, then either Home Depot lied to me, and mis-marked ALL of their stock...or, the pic isn't giving you a clear pic...If you look at
this pic you'll notice that the wire is close to the size of a pencil.

cheers!
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It may be 8GA with some thin insulation. It looks more like 10GA. Don't sweat it though, either way, it is more than sufficient for your needs.

Old Nov 6, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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Did you just crimp the ring terminals or soldered it on?
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:23 AM
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Did you just crimp the ring terminals or soldered it on?
whoa haha i've never heard of soldering wires that thick... when u're playing w/ less than 8-gauge, the easiest way is probably crimping them on.
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:36 AM
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i would have used 0 gauge
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by EZEMaxima
Did you just crimp the ring terminals or soldered it on?
actually, I first tried soldering...no dice.
so, I simply crimped the Shiznit out of the wire...pleanty sturdy.

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by FLO_BOY


actually, I first tried soldering...no dice.
so, I simply crimped the Shiznit out of the wire...pleanty sturdy.

-FLO_BOY
You should be able to solder it all together after its been crimped. Since it's thicker gauge wire and thicker eyelets, it'll take a little time to heat them and melt the solder. Just be careful cuz the insulation tends to melt too. Takes time but gaurantees a good connection. My .02
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by HulaMAX

You should be able to solder it all together after its been crimped. Since it's thicker gauge wire and thicker eyelets, it'll take a little time to heat them and melt the solder. Just be careful cuz the insulation tends to melt too. Takes time but gaurantees a good connection. My .02

ya gonna put hyper ground out of business. I wonder how many Macaronees from other forums seen this write up.

Good job on the installation. I am not electronically inclined so the gauge wire numbers look like Japaneese Kangee to me
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:47 PM
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Those Apexi gauges are beautiful . As far as Hyperground, no one visits Maxima land, so they'll never see the instructions .
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by Tanman
Those Apexi gauges are beautiful . As far as Hyperground, no one visits Maxima land, so they'll never see the instructions .
thanks, but technically you beat me to it. I saw that set up of these wires and the one person was pist off to see just wires. Anyhow it did benefit him in one war or another. I told him I was going to get some Purdee wires from a sound shop and do the same. But you went to home depot and beat me to it. No biggie much love for ya. Keep it up.
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 09:55 PM
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that stuff's probably 8 awg if he bought THHN wire (regular home/commercial grade 110/220V wiring). they use a very thin poly or PVC jacket over the wire. Car Audio power cable uses MUCH thicker insulation and many more strands of smaller wire, so it is in fact a tad bit larger than the stuff he used.

theory on solid/stranded/finely stranded wire gets into skin effects on the surface of the copper and other neato physics stuff like that. I'm sure you'd rather not be bored reading it though. But for these types of things, any wire larger than about 12awg would be fine to use. there's not a lot of current, so mainly it's just the low resistance of a larger wire that you're paying for. (which CAN be negated using poor connections. soldering the connectors can make a huge difference), but I doubt you'll see them in a case like this.

Audio stuff or radio frequencies, yeah.. you'll see every crimped connection in the system. go back over them with solder and problems magically dissappear.

And yes, it's possible to solder even 1/0 or 2/0awg wire.. I use a blowtorch to do it.
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...wer_wire_1.jpg
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...wer_wire_2.jpg
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Originally posted by Matt93SE

And yes, it's possible to solder even 1/0 or 2/0awg wire.. I use a blowtorch to do it.
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...wer_wire_1.jpg
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...wer_wire_2.jpg
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