QUANSUNG

raced my brother tonight on 1&9 south in linden nj ,his car a 1990 5speed vw corrado with a chip ,pulley, eibach springs ,intake ,exhuast, and a turbo running at 18psi ,raced twice both rolling starts from 1st gear,up to the middle of 3rd his bumper is right behind my driver door,after that he starts walking me,by the begining of 5th gear i signal to stop he's about ahead 2 car lengths ,i'm getting the pully next, but dammit i want boost!next time i'll race him on the parkway and see if i can beat him in top end speed.

Pancor

Huh? He should have smoked you right from the start.

My 4DSC

but isnt the G60 Supercharged? (not turbo)

QUANSUNG

yes stock it comes with a s/c he swaped that for the turbo ,stock vs stock a 5speed max will beat both the g60 and the vr6 carrados but once they are modded you get to see the cool feature of the car when the rear spoiler rises at high speeds.

A3GTIVR6

QUANSUNG...no the 5spd max will not beat a vr6 corrado stock for stock...i have raced a few and its pretty much dead even till about 70...then i start to pull away...and i drive a GTI VR6...and the corrado is a tad faster than a GTI..due to gearing...a g60 is no problem untill modified...i havent had the chance to race a newer max...i'm sure then i'll get beat....who know...it also depends on the driver...this was not a flame btw

ny96max

QUANSUNG: very weird cause my brother has a 1990 VW Corrado g60 converted to a TURBO. Hes got the chip, eibachs, full exhaust(headers back), new intake manifold, greddy intercooler, stage 2 clutch, shorty shifter, HKS turbo timer, etc.... He too is puishing around 18lbs of BOOST, wich is at the low setting on the turbo. We race and it seems i have the edge off the line, but he always pulls ahead of me around 60mph. I guess cause he has the stick im only auto Them little bastrards are fast cars. He did get beat by a VR6 Corrado Turbo, haha!!!
I think at top end i can beat him though... We plan on racing at the track this summer sometime to see who really wins!!

QUANSUNG

the v6 corrado 0-60 6.4sec 1/4 15.0 top speed 143mph ,this is just from various magazines just to give an idea.2000 vr6 gti 0-60 7.1,1/4 15.3 92.3mph from european car mag,no flames but if you raced 4th gen 5speed maximas it should've been a alot closer race though, i stand corrected on the corrado vr6.

QUANSUNG

i just found out that when we raced my bro he was only running 15psi douh!,he could've run it up to 20psi and really embarresed me.i think i'm going to get a s/c with my tax return,i hope stillen gets their act together by then.

A3GTIVR6

[/I][/QUOTE] the v6 corrado 0-60 6.4sec 1/4 15.0 top speed 143mph ,this is just from various magazines just to give an idea.2000 vr6 gti 0-60 7.1,1/4 15.3 92.3mph from european car mag,no flames but if you raced 4th gen 5speed maximas it should've been a alot closer race though, i stand corrected on the corrado vr6. [/I][/QUOTE]


you are correct..i dont have a 2000 gti vr6 i have a 98..and if you wanna go with magazine times...i think it was the 94 or so car&driver that printed the gti vr6 at 0-60 6.7 and the 1/4 at 15.2 or so...it was a 4th gen max...and like i said we were side by side till about 65-70mph then i start to pull away...one of the cars i raced owns to a friend of mine and we only ran to about 80mph..btw his is a 96 max 5spd...

Micah95GLE

MT says that the '90 Corrado does 0-60 in 9.3 secs. Did they have an NA version of the Corrado? That's awfuly slow. The '92 Corrado SLC (with the VR6) did 6.8 secs. The '94 Corrado SLC did 7.2 secs.

madmax2k

As the owner of two previous VW VR6's (GTI and GLX, I can say for sure that a stock 5th Gen (2000+) Maxima 5 speed will handily outrun any stock VR6 powered car. As far as modded cars go, its a tough call. There are TONS more mods available for VR6's than Maximas. I really like the VR6 engine as my last one made over 300 wheel hp with alot of mods.

But, in stock form, the VR6 is not really a match for the 2k Maxima V6.

QUANSUNG

the v6 corrado 0-60 6.4sec 1/4 15.0 top speed 143mph ,this is just from various magazines just to give an idea.2000 vr6 gti 0-60 7.1,1/4 15.3 92.3mph from european car mag,no flames but if you raced 4th gen 5speed maximas it should've been a alot closer race though, i stand corrected on the corrado vr6. [/I][/QUOTE]


you are correct..i dont have a 2000 gti vr6 i have a 98..and if you wanna go with magazine times...i think it was the 94 or so car&driver that printed the gti vr6 at 0-60 6.7 and the 1/4 at 15.2 or so...it was a 4th gen max...and like i said we were side by side till about 65-70mph then i start to pull away...one of the cars i raced owns to a friend of mine and we only ran to about 80mph..btw his is a 96 max 5spd...

[/I][/QUOTE]i've seen 7.1 and 15.5 for a 95 vr6 and 14.9 to 15.0 for a modified 98 vr6 ,close race any way you look at it ,with mods i can see you pulling on a 5speed max but stock it shouldn't be that easy.

AntGVR4

in my experience..

BOOST almost always wins..
and if he was runnin 18 pounds he should have pulled from you .. at 15 he should have still pulled away..

Can he drive good ?

Ant

QUANSUNG

my bro swaps engines and installs superchargers and turbos in my backyard i'm pretty sure he can drive pretty damn good.

A3GTIVR6

QUANSUNG...i was not modded at the time of the first max run in and it was about dead even...now i only have chip, modified airbox and crappy exhuast...and now i pull away over 70mph...

irvine78

iTrader: (2)

from the numbers, it looks like madmax2 can beat a stock corrado in 1/4 mile....14.3 vs. 15.0
hehe....and if he can do it, then i can do it too!!


-peace

QUANSUNG

when i made the statement about the max beating a stock vr6 corrado i meant the 2000 model which i believe could ,as for the 4th gen i believe compared to a 98gti it should be closer stock for stock but hey i'm not denying your word just that there so evenly matched that anything can sway the race toward either car ,such as weight of the driver ,condition of the car and most importantly driver skill.

Victim64

when I get back to school and the weather clears up. I have an auto, but I will let everyone know the results when it happens. I will then race him again once my UPRD ECU is installed and see how much difference there is in the outcomes.

QUANSUNG

i predict a spanking ,just tell us how bad.

A3GTIVR6

[/I][/QUOTE]i predict a spanking ,just tell us how bad. [/I][/QUOTE]

hopefully you mean the gti isnt the one that will get the spanking...with the max being a auto and stuff...no flame intended....

Victim64

i predict a spanking ,just tell us how bad. [/I][/QUOTE]

hopefully you mean the gti isnt the one that will get the spanking...with the max being a auto and stuff...no flame intended.... [/I][/QUOTE]

Yes, that is what he means, and that is what I plan on doing. Hahaha hope it isn't to bad!

A3GTIVR6

ok, from what i hear an auto max isnt quite the same as a 5spd...not as quick...so if i can pull on a 96 se 5spd after 70mph...how do you plan on spanking a gti??? no flame here..and all you list for mods performance wise is an intake..just a little curious...now to 60 it will sorta be close but with a 17sec 1/4...i dont think so...

this what i found...

SPECIFICATIONS
Engine Type 3.0 Liter V6 w/SMPFI*
Engine Size 182cid/2988 cc
Horsepower 190 @ 5600 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 205 @ 4000 RPM
Wheelbase/Width/Length 106.3"/69.7"/187.7"
Transmission Four-speed automatic
Curb Weight 3100 Pounds
Fuel Capacity 18.5 gallons
Tires (F/R) 215/55R16
Brakes (F/R) Disc/disc
Drive Train Front-engine/front-wheel-drive
Vehicle Type Five-passenger/four-door
Domestic Content 5 percent
Coefficient of Drag (Cd.) 0.32
PERFORMANCE

EPA Economy, miles per gallon
city/highway/average 21/28/24
0-60 MPH 7.5 seconds
1/4 Mile (E.T.) 17 seconds @ 84.5 mph
Top-speed 115 mph



[Edited by A3GTIVR6 on 01-03-2001 at 09:00 AM]

QUANSUNG

it's already been established that he's going to loose,and 4th gen maximas aren't top speed limited that low maybe 125 to 130mph for gxe and gle the se can go over 140.

Victim64

Well, I know I am not going to beet him and I typed that backwards(sorry), but your info is wrong. I got in a race last night and I had my car past the 135mph mark so that takes car of the 115mph thing. Also the 17 sec 1/4 mile, yeah right maybe if I have a flat on the way down the track. I ran a 10.087 when stock in the 1/8 mile at 72mph, so I predict my 1/4 mile to be about 15.6-15.8. And the zero to 60 times, are off too, I will discuss this when I have more time, Sorry took so long to reply, have been tied up lately....will post about this again later


[QUOTE]Originally posted by A3GTIVR6
[I]ok, from what i hear an auto max isnt quite the same as a 5spd...not as quick...so if i can pull on a 96 se 5spd after 70mph...how do you plan on spanking a gti??? no flame here..and all you list for mods performance wise is an intake..just a little curious...now to 60 it will sorta be close but with a 17sec 1/4...i dont think so...

this what i found...

SPECIFICATIONS
Engine Type 3.0 Liter V6 w/SMPFI*
Engine Size 182cid/2988 cc
Horsepower 190 @ 5600 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 205 @ 4000 RPM
Wheelbase/Width/Length 106.3"/69.7"/187.7"
Transmission Four-speed automatic
Curb Weight 3100 Pounds
Fuel Capacity 18.5 gallons
Tires (F/R) 215/55R16
Brakes (F/R) Disc/disc
Drive Train Front-engine/front-wheel-drive
Vehicle Type Five-passenger/four-door
Domestic Content 5 percent
Coefficient of Drag (Cd.) 0.32
PERFORMANCE

EPA Economy, miles per gallon
city/highway/average 21/28/24
0-60 MPH 7.5 seconds
1/4 Mile (E.T.) 17 seconds @ 84.5 mph
Top-speed 115 mph

[Edited by Victim64 on 01-03-2001 at 04:33 PM]

Victim64

Well, your figures say that an auto Maxima should run a 7.5, and I have seen figures that say that a 95 5spd will run a 6.7 So this is .8 of a second difference. That would mean that unless an auto actually gains on a 5spd from 60mph-70mph that 1/8 mile times should reflect similar numbers. They don't. As I have stated before I ran a 10.087 when my car was stock in the 1/8 mile at 72mph. So this would mean that a 5spd should be at about 9.3 seconds stock in the 1/8 mile because they too get to a little over 70mph. I have never seen a stock 5spd maxima ever come close to this. If someone has please correct me. Usually when at the track I see about a .2 to a .3 second difference between my car and other 4th Gen. 5pds. Now I do have a 96 SE, and they are slightly faster than 97-99, but not by that much.

QUANSUNG

This is Quansungs brother (the turbo Corrado owner). This is turbo system is not perfected yet and there are things I need to work out and others I can't like the inconsistancies with the air/fuel mixture that may have been designed into the computer, and a faulty coolant temp sensor. My car occationaly runs lean under high
boost because of this when the engines hot, but when it's cool I don't have this problem. Other factors of this problem is the chip, turbo itself, and maybe the timing.The chip I was using at the time was programed for the gradual boost that the factory supercharger puts out, with the turbo the engine gets alot of boost almost all at once causing a boost spike I believe that the computer cant calculate the right fuel mixture quick enough. My car is 11
years old has over 180,000 miles ( but not the engine), needs minnor body work, paint, and other not so important
things. Unlike my brother I don't have much money and I do all the work on it by myself, from the engine and turbo installation to the springs and swaybars to the FARFROMUGEN sticker on my rear spoiler (long days longer nights on cold blacktop). So its a slow prosess but I'm working on it. To answer your question I'm no Hahns Stuck but if one rolls up on me looking for an easy win or win at all be very prepared to very hard work for it, ask the pretty red Vette

T8KNOLS (Brothza QAUNSUNG'S Brothza)