Alright folks. I am part way through the MEVI install and just about have the manifold off except for one thing, the EGR guide. Mainly I removed the 2 12mm bolts on both sides and it should come off. It does not come off though. I can not get it out of the manifold and this is the only thing holding the manifold down still. Any tips or ideas? How did you guys go about taking it out?

SuDZ

 

are you sure thats what's holding in down? the egr guide doesn't bend back, it stands fairly straight.

did you undo the coolant hoses in the back and the two mounting bolts?

you also have to maneuver the manifold over the coil back to get it off.. if i remember right, lift the back first.. back (towards firewall) and up.

 

That is the piece I am trying to get out.

SuDZ

 

I had a bit of trouble getting it out at first too. Make sure you have both bracket bolts removed on both sides of the back of the manifold. Then the 2 EGR bolts. The EGR does not move. It just bolts to the rear of the manifold. Once you remove the bolts that hold it in, the manifold should come free with a slight jerk.

 

Both bolts are undone on the part. Both of the bolts in the back have been removed too. With a light jerk of what? The part itself or of the manifold... which way did you jerk it?

SuDZ

 

A slight jerk of the manifold itself. Since it has been there for so long heat and age will make it feel somewhat "stuck." Just make sure you have all 4 of the bolts in back removed and all 4 in front removed. Also make sure that all necessary hoses are removed. Is the front of the manifold moving? Is there something that is in the way that could be restricting the manifold from releasing? The front should lift up and you should be able to work the back out by lifting up and wiggling it side to side if need be. Double check to make sure nothing is in the way. Hope that helps.

 

Thanks for the help. I will give it another try since I had to leave for a bit. One other question, what did you guys do about the fuel rail going over the middle of the manifold? Wre you able to slip the manifold out from under it or have to remove it somehow to get it out of the way?

SuDZ

 

Ok I might have figured it out. I did not remove the second coolant line. The one on the passenger side of the car. This thing is a pain to remove... do any of you have a better way of getting it off of there? I have been playing with it for a bit but cannot get anywhere with it. Any tips?

SuDZ

 

Bump...

SuDZ

 

Sudz:

I do not remember a fuel rail running over the middle of the manifold. There was a bunch of wires taped together which tied into the coil; packs.

I lifted this up and away to provide clearance to remove the manifold.

Hope this helps!

D

 

Sorry, I have no idea why I said fuel rail. My friend was sending me an IM about swapping his out while I was typing that and he got me all mixed up

I just finally headed back out to mess with that coolant line in back again, my knuckles hate me but it is loose and the manifold is off now. Now time to put the new one on.

SuDZ

 

the fuel rail will stay put.. its bolted down on to the lower plenum.

the far side coolant line is a pita but if everything else is loose, you can lift up the manifold to get at it... a long needlenose or vise grip should work for the clip.. pull down enough where you can just pull the hose off... some coolant may leak out but not much as long as you don't take off the radiator cap.

tip to put the coolant hose back on is pull the clamp to the end and hold it open with a locking needle nose pliers, slip the hose on and unlock the pliers...

 

Keep us updated on any other odd things you come across :takes notes:

 

I am sure there will be more.

SuDZ

 

Some other notes I just thought of mentioning. I finally got the coolant line off on the bottom fitting. It will be easier to pictuer this if you actually follow the coolant lint but it goes in a C shape from the manifold and then C's down. Where it connects at the lower fitting (about 2 inches lower) I found it a bit easier to get off. Not much easier but at least a little.

I am also making a note to get that tube back onto the bottom again before getting the manifold in place because this way I have some extra space to move my hands around.

Just some things to consider.

SuDZ

 

Okay here is another problem. The same part as in the picture above.

There are 2 12mm bolts that go in the back of it. The one you see fits in fine but the hole for the second bolt does not seem to be lining up preventing me from getting the stupid thing in. Any ideas?

SuDZ

 

Make sure not to torque the intake manifold bolts down until you thread the rear support bolts in. They don't have to be completely torqued, just get them started. I ran into the same problem with my install.


Dave

 

Your going to have to wiggle it around until the bolts go in. It may be somewhat of a headache, but they will go in. I had a heck of a time with the two rear bolts that go in the rear manifold brackets. Just keep working at it, you will get it. Try lifting the manifold up/down/left/right a tad. When the bolts go in only screw them part way, until you have all of the bolts in and THEN screw them all the way. I had to learn this the hard way.

 

I have the rear ones in and the front ones too. They are all torqued down though.... so you figurelossening them tand then alinging this part first is the way to go? I will try it now.

SuDZ

 

Ok another question

I have the manifold on and have most of the elctrical connections redone and taking care of hoses.

On the USIM the hose connects to the top or the manifold slightly behind the throttle body. This is the hose that connects to a peice on the top of the manifold. I dont know what it is called but it sits just about in the middle of the manifold towards the back. It has one large electrical connection and two hoses, one which runs to the part I am saying (which one the MEVI looks to have been moved to the side of the manifold right behind the TB) and another one that goes to the plastic circular piece that sits above the PCV valve.

Here is the question, on the TB side the hose connection is much smaller than where it originates from. The hose connection on the part sitting on the manifold is much bigger therefore the larger hose slips off end B while asmaller one wont fit over end A.

What did you guys do here?

SuDZ

 

Never mind I took care of it.

SuDZ

 

Ok on this diagram...



It shows the vaccum canister going to the maifold vaccum. What is that?

Where on the manifold does it connect to?

Also when I connect the solenoid that Ian gave me to the positive and negative terminals of the battery, should I hear it click or anything? Right now I dont and that makes me nervous because I thought someone ssaid you should hear it?

SuDZ

 

The part on the MEVI that pulls the actuator arm back and opens the butterflies.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SuDZ

Also when I connect the solenoid that Ian gave me to the positive and negative terminals of the battery, should I hear it click or anything? Right now I dont and that makes me nervous because I thought someone ssaid you should hear it? SuDZ [QUOTE]

Yes it should make a clicking noise. It might be hard to hear. If you grip the solenoid in your hand firmly, you can slightly feel it receive power.
Mine worked fine.