I love tight steering
I love tight steering
I got a rental car this am, and it's a 2k3 Cavalier coupe with less than 500 miles on it. Wow, this steering is tight and crisp. Let's keep sending Nissan the message, when the 2k4 comes out, we don't want loose steering and pedals anymore, we want that crisp road feel! If chevy can do it in a car like the Cavalier, and Pontiac with the Sunfire, and Olds with the Alero, there's no way the 2k4 Maxima can't do it as well. Sometimes life is good when things are stiff and tight!
I own a 95 Accord LX V6, which I have to say, if nothing else, has one of the best road feedback "systems" in place. The steering is nice and tight, and is very responsive (no overboost, underboost). However, when I drive my 2003 SE, I don't really notice a difference. The biggest difference that I notice is from the beam axle in the back ,when the back of the car jumps out when cornering and going over a bump. The car has speed-sensitive steering, so the faster you go, the stiffer it gets.
I really don't have anything to complain about regarding the steering.
I really don't have anything to complain about regarding the steering.
Re: I love tight steering
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
I got a rental car this am, and it's a 2k3 Cavalier coupe with less than 500 miles on it. Wow, this steering is tight and crisp. Let's keep sending Nissan the message, when the 2k4 comes out, we don't want loose steering and pedals anymore, we want that crisp road feel! If chevy can do it in a car like the Cavalier, and Pontiac with the Sunfire, and Olds with the Alero, there's no way the 2k4 Maxima can't do it as well. Sometimes life is good when things are stiff and tight!
I got a rental car this am, and it's a 2k3 Cavalier coupe with less than 500 miles on it. Wow, this steering is tight and crisp. Let's keep sending Nissan the message, when the 2k4 comes out, we don't want loose steering and pedals anymore, we want that crisp road feel! If chevy can do it in a car like the Cavalier, and Pontiac with the Sunfire, and Olds with the Alero, there's no way the 2k4 Maxima can't do it as well. Sometimes life is good when things are stiff and tight!
Originally posted by ru4real
I drove a 5-speed Civic recently. Even that car has good road feel and steering. I really liked the small turning radius too. I forgot what it was like to do a U-Turn in one motion.
I drove a 5-speed Civic recently. Even that car has good road feel and steering. I really liked the small turning radius too. I forgot what it was like to do a U-Turn in one motion.
Originally posted by ru4real
I drove a 5-speed Civic recently. Even that car has good road feel and steering. I really liked the small turning radius too. I forgot what it was like to do a U-Turn in one motion.
I drove a 5-speed Civic recently. Even that car has good road feel and steering. I really liked the small turning radius too. I forgot what it was like to do a U-Turn in one motion.
I own a 95 Accord LX V6, which I have to say, if nothing else, has one of the best road feedback "systems" in place. The steering is nice and tight, and is very responsive (no overboost, underboost).
The Acura was great as far as steering feel goes, and handling in general for a fwd. I wasn't real crazy about the way it rode on rough roads, and thought I wanted something more towards the ride/performance 50/50 balance....but after driving the max for a while I yearn for the handling/steering feel of a tighter, sportier ride.
Originally posted by blizz20oma
I always thought my rents old 94 4-cyl EX accord had somewhat loose steering. At the time I was driving my 91 Integra though. I'd say it felt to me almost the same as my max, but I can't remember 100%.
The Acura was great as far as steering feel goes, and handling in general for a fwd. I wasn't real crazy about the way it rode on rough roads, and thought I wanted something more towards the ride/performance 50/50 balance....but after driving the max for a while I yearn for the handling/steering feel of a tighter, sportier ride.
I always thought my rents old 94 4-cyl EX accord had somewhat loose steering. At the time I was driving my 91 Integra though. I'd say it felt to me almost the same as my max, but I can't remember 100%.
The Acura was great as far as steering feel goes, and handling in general for a fwd. I wasn't real crazy about the way it rode on rough roads, and thought I wanted something more towards the ride/performance 50/50 balance....but after driving the max for a while I yearn for the handling/steering feel of a tighter, sportier ride.
i have been much happier with my car ever since i put on the progress springs, KYB AGX's, and 40 profile tires. those things took out alot of the big car feel that mine came with. i would like to try one of those FSTB's though.
I've driven a ton of late model GM and other American cars and the steering is indeed "heavier" giving the sense of better feel. However if you throw those cars into the curves, the steering sucks and lacks feed back. The Pontiac Grand Prixs GTs I've rented for work have nicely weighted steering, but if you get them into the curve, the steering conveys nothing. I agree that the Maxima's steering is overboosted, but it offers much better feedback and feel in handling manuvers. Once you add lower profile high performance rubber, the steering is far better, IMO.
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Originally posted by Rob'sAE
What you guys are talking about is the difference between cheaper lighter cars and the "refined" feel of a 4 door sports car...
What you guys are talking about is the difference between cheaper lighter cars and the "refined" feel of a 4 door sports car...
Do yourself a favor. Next time you need to go a few hundred miles on a business trip, instead of taking the 36.5 or actually it's 36 cents/mile for 2003, rent a car and have the co. reimburse you for the rental and gas. You'll see that the Cavalier's steering is superior in feel to the Maxima. And my point is it should be the other way around. But it probably will be with the 6th gen.
Originally posted by ericdwong
Apparently the polyurethane control arm bushings should help steering feel. When I put mine in I will let you all know.
Apparently the polyurethane control arm bushings should help steering feel. When I put mine in I will let you all know.
BMW went to great expense to retrofit the E46's when owners complained about the loose steering feel in 2k1. They would have done PS pumps or bushings if that's all that was needed.
Re: Re: You know
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
No question the Maxima is a better car overall. But I just got back into mine this am after driving the Cavalier 1200 miles. My steering feels very loose and it's annoying as all ****. It'll take a day to get used to it again. The brake pedals feel very soft and my pads are nearly new. I didn't notice it last week, but because the Cavalier had zero rattles, my whole car sounds like it's shaking itself apart!! There are squeaks from the left and right of the front dashboard, and somewhere in the rear-right.
No question the Maxima is a better car overall. But I just got back into mine this am after driving the Cavalier 1200 miles. My steering feels very loose and it's annoying as all ****. It'll take a day to get used to it again. The brake pedals feel very soft and my pads are nearly new. I didn't notice it last week, but because the Cavalier had zero rattles, my whole car sounds like it's shaking itself apart!! There are squeaks from the left and right of the front dashboard, and somewhere in the rear-right.
even my big SC400 handles better than the Maxima (not limits but overall feel and character)
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Originally posted by carnal_c30
hahaha i noticed that too my sisters '99 Cavalier is more solid than the Maxima- steering is better too if a bit vague... the Mazda Protege and the new Mazda 6 have aweeesome steering
even my big SC400 handles better than the Maxima (not limits but overall feel and character)
hahaha i noticed that too my sisters '99 Cavalier is more solid than the Maxima- steering is better too if a bit vague... the Mazda Protege and the new Mazda 6 have aweeesome steering
even my big SC400 handles better than the Maxima (not limits but overall feel and character)
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
Keep us posted, because it'd be great if that's all it took. But my gut feel is it's not the "overboost," nor is it the front suspension. imho it's the rack itself--it takes alot of movement to get the fronts to respond. Why I believe that is there is obviously zero free-play on a 4th gen car.
BMW went to great expense to retrofit the E46's when owners complained about the loose steering feel in 2k1. They would have done PS pumps or bushings if that's all that was needed.
Keep us posted, because it'd be great if that's all it took. But my gut feel is it's not the "overboost," nor is it the front suspension. imho it's the rack itself--it takes alot of movement to get the fronts to respond. Why I believe that is there is obviously zero free-play on a 4th gen car.
BMW went to great expense to retrofit the E46's when owners complained about the loose steering feel in 2k1. They would have done PS pumps or bushings if that's all that was needed.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: You know
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
aha! I wasn't imagining it. whaddya want, GM is on the right track, Alero beats the 95-2k1 Maxima in slalom, braking, skidpad. 2k2 is questionable at best.
aha! I wasn't imagining it. whaddya want, GM is on the right track, Alero beats the 95-2k1 Maxima in slalom, braking, skidpad. 2k2 is questionable at best.
problem is it doesnt have the natural 'right' feel of the BMWs and yea the E46!!! when I first drove it I was like ehhhh what the hell did BMW do??? haha I used to drive my friends euro spec 321 horse M3 around... I thought it was only me tripping
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