d_warner

I'm on my way to Houston to pick up my new 97 GXE 5-Spd . My wife has taken over the 2K1 SE auto. Should I let her keep talking smack or can I put her in her place? I'm thinking that the two cars will be pretty closely matched. The 2K1 has a WAI only, and the 97 will be stock. What do y'all think?

Frank Fontaine

I think the 97 would take it, what is it, about 27 hp more in the 2k1? The weight and the auto would most likely eat up the hp and then some. The GXE would top out at 112 but I hope you're not gonna take it up that high with your wife.

Sprint

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wtf is the deal with the "" on the 97 GXE hey.. wtf

hokiemax

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LOL

Jamsan

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you'll spank her....in more than one way

erty67

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TonyVQ

LOL

Craig Mack

Well, let's see here...4th Gen GXE 5spd 0-60 stock is 6.5-6.6...a 2k1 Auto is 7.8. That intake probubly shaves .1-.2 off her 0-60.

Basically, if you don't destroy her, especially off the line, then you can't shift worth a damn.

sil SE

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wow i didnt know basically stock for stock the 4th was that much better. oh but then again it would be a debate of stick vs auto.

i ran a 2k-2k1 (pretty sure auto) se the other day. i chirped 2nd in my stupid heavy oem 17's. and...by end of 3rd wouldve banked him pretty good.
but it sure is fun to go against a newer model

costcowholesale

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you'll run away from her on the highway after 70~mph

off the line u'll still take her but she'll be closer

Craig Mack

What the heak are you talkin about? Auto's are dogs off the lines, especially 2k-2k1's. (no offense fella's ) Have you seen SteVTECs dyno comparisons? The 4th gen's HP/TQ to weight ratio is better for low end grunt then the 5th gens...but the fact that it's a stick vs. auto should say enough.

If you launch right and don't spin the hell outta your tires (which is very easy to do) you will run away from her.

I'd also like to point out that the 5spd's first gear is alot better then the auto's...the 5spds is 3.33, whereas the auto's is like 2.43? Anyways, I converted my auto to 5spd and it's like night and day. The 5spd's first gear is soo much more powerfull then the auto's...the only trade-off is it winds out quicker.

meccanoble

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yea so tru, i hate my first gear, although it makes my car go crazy, u can't stay on it long at all and nothings worst than being at high rpm on first gear and letting go of the clutch

dam face will be on the glass if u don't hold on tight

slickrick

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those 0-60 times seem a little fast. so a 4th gen stick can be bumper to bumper almost with a 2k2 auto?

crazy4maxima

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i hope that the vows "to death do us part" doesnt happen.. bro take it to the track.. dont endager your wife...anything can happend.... but hey if you want i think that you have the advantage since its a 5spd..

Victim64

Its a drivers race. Would be close, with a slight edge to the 2k2 auto.

Craig Mack

Kids, we are talking about a 2001 Maxima. And 2k2 auto's can run mid 6's, I don't know why all the mag's got 6.6 for the Maxima 4th gen and like 7 for the 2k2 auto. But it has more potential then that.

Victim64

I know what we are talking about. I was responding to the post about a 2k2 though junior!

slickrick

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i figured id let you chime in on that one.

Craig Mack

costcowholesale

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all 5spd do in first gear is spin, they don't go anywhere

the 4th gen 5spd will easily put many cars (6+?) on a 5th gen auto on the highway, do you remember how slow your old auto is from a 70mph roll starting at high 3000rpm in third gear? any 5speed maxima will kill autos around that speed.

no 5spd maxima is going to put 6+ carlength on me from 0-60

Max Power X

I raced my friend who was driving a 2k3 auto SE and I beat him 3 out of 4 times and that's only because I f*cked up my launch on the 1st run. Also I have the video to prove it. BTW I only have a drop in K&N filter.

Nealoc187

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As a max owner, I can't believe you even asked this question. 4th gen 5spd > all autotragic short of 2k2.

d_warner

Thanks for the comment guys. I knew I could spawn some interesting comments. By the way, at the airport tonight, it was in fact the 97 5spd who shined. Maybe it's b/c the 2K1 auto was dirty. I think all that TX dust weighs a ton!

As for the GXE , it's only b/c of the limiter. Got to get that fixed.

Thanks guys. And Have a Merry Christmas.

David

Sprint

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http://www.sprintmax.com/tails/bensecumod.htm

2000 SE

That is going to be a pretty tough task!!

Craig Mack

Yes it will be, especially with a stock pulley ...I just will make sure I get a solid headstart and a good prayer in before he takes off.

BLaZin 2k MaX

WTF I have a gxe and I have yet to be beaten by a 4gen. what are you guys smoking???

nc00max

I'm about to have this exact same dilemna, though I have quite a few more mods on the 2k. I would agree that off the line the 5spd is going to get a major jump, though I wouldn't expect it to go screaming away. From a roll, I think it would depend where you started at. As long as the 2k downshifted to 2nd (<65mph), I think it'd stand a fair chance, though that's just been my experience. Maybe the only 2 5spds I've run really didn't know what the hell they were doing. Before anyone chimes in telling me no way and that I'm an idiot, remember I have every decent bolt-on available for the 2k's. My best time with just the JWT intake and y-pipe was 15.25, which isn't that far off from a 4g 5spd.

Keep in mind though, I think the 4g 5spd is going to have a hell of a lot more potential, hence the reason I've picked that year and model and plan on making it my play car.

Sprint

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do i need to pull out the videos of me racing that 2k Auto from a roll?

nc00max

Yeah, but you have mods, meaning it's going to be a different story.

Actually, I've never seen that video, just heard about it. I wouldn't mind having a peek.

crazy4maxima

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yes please

Sprint

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http://www.happygrovealumni.com/vide...printmax_1.mpg
http://www.happygrovealumni.com/vide...printmax_2.mpg
http://www.happygrovealumni.com/vide...printmax_3.mpg

FYI .. both cars were modded

nc00max

Ahhh, I have seen those before. Hard to forget Hogan's mouth...

I'm not denying the 4g 5spd can be much, much faster, I was just referring to a fully modded 2k vs. stock 4g, starting at a decent speed for the auto tranny, but then again it's pretty sad when I have to come up with so many conditions. It's still not going to be a total blowout though.

BriGuyMax

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nc00max

Right, because I've never ran a 4g 5spd before. Lessee...low-15 with an average driver...I ran a low 15 with fewer mods than what I have now...I must be full of ****.

carnal_c30

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'97 GXE 5spds OWN

Iilac

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95 SE 5 speeds OWN TOO......

carnal_c30

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5spds own...

crazy4maxima

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91 auto vg gets owned

Sprint

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to end this debate.. the fastest stock 4g 5spd is 14.7.. i don't know if any 2k - 2k1 auto's fully modded have ran that yet