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Old 01-12-2003, 05:00 PM
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Well guys, I finally got around to putting 300ZX Brakes on my 96 Maxima. I got a set of loaded Aluminum Calipers from a 1991 Twin Turbo Z, Brembo Crossdrilled/Slotted Rotors with cadmium plating (which will probably wear off), OEM pads, 300ZX Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines, and 300ZX Speed Bleeders. It took me a few hours to do the install. I didn't encounter any hard points and all of it was mostly common sense. I had a hard time finding the lighter Aluminum calipers and was going to settle for the heavier Iron ones, but I finally found some from a yard in NC. I had the calipers powdercoated candy apple red. The reason I stuck with OEM pads for now is because I am now poor and couldn't afford the Axxis MetalMasters or the Porterfields. But all is good.

The wheels BARELY clear the Nissan logo on the calipers, but they do clear lol. I took some pics of the install and at various stages during the day. Sorry for the dirty wheels and car, but suck it up lol. It is freezing outside and I don't have time to clean it up.

When I finished installing them, I took it out for a ride. I absolutely fell in love with the braking distance. The car absolutely stops on a dime. There is no sluggishness in the pedal and it feels better than my mom's 2k brakes, which to me feel awesome. All in all, this is one of the mods that I can definitely live with day to day lol. Anyways, here's the site for the pictures.

www.sphosting.com/smg/images/300ZBrakes/

Total Cost for 300ZX Brakes:

Calipers - $70.00 for the two
Powdercoating - $60.00
Rotors - $125.00 for the set
SS Lines - $93.00 for all 4
Speed Bleeders - $10.00 for all 4

Total: $358.00

All thanks goes to Aaron95Se for the install. Although he didn't physically help me on the install, he did compile a bunch of 300ZX Brake install internet sites into one thread here on the .org. Reference: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=173019

Anyways, I want some opinions lol. Later guys. Now, I am off to finishing the polishing on my VI....
 
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Re: 300ZX Brakes Install, with Pics.......

how was the install im waiting for my cousin to convert to his grand turismo brakes.. then i get his 91 tt brakes. let me know
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looks sweet


i will be doing this in the next couple of months



where did you get the 300zx brake lines?
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Old 01-12-2003, 05:42 PM
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looks sweet

where did you get the 300zx brake lines?
http://www.demonspeed.com/braid300zx.htm

http://www.srswap.com/html/products/brakes_240SX.htm

http://www.turboimport.com/catalog/300zx_specials.htm

http://www.stranoparts.com/
 
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thanks...


here is another place..
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Looks great!

Do you know if these will clear stock 2KSE 16" wheels?
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Old 01-12-2003, 06:55 PM
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Looks great!

Do you know if these will clear stock 2KSE 16" wheels?
Ummm, to be honest with you I don't know. What are the stock 2k 16" wheels. Are they the 6-spoke wheels? If so, they "may" fit, but I don't know. The easiest way to find out is to find a friend that has a 300z and put one of your rims on his front brakes.....
 
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my those rotors look small compared to those calipers
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looks decent, not too shabby for under $360
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That looks sweet. I want to do this mod in the future. Is the 300zx calipers plug and play? Is there any modification needed for this setup on the maxima?

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Re: 300ZX Brakes Install, with Pics.......

Holy smokes!

Im glad the info came to good use.................

Im trying to get some 300ZX wheels or wheels that will clear my ZX calipers............

RX7 wheels will not!...........well with a 9 foot spacer they might!



Just sold the rx7 wheels for 250!

They look HOT Ramius Talk about just clearing the lettering too! Whew!

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Re: Re: 300ZX Brakes Install, with Pics.......

Originally posted by Aaron95SE
Holy smokes!

Im glad the info came to good use.................

Im trying to get some 300ZX wheels or wheels that will clear my ZX calipers............

RX7 wheels will not!...........well with a 9 foot spacer they might!



Just sold the rx7 wheels for 250!

They look HOT Ramius Talk about just clearing the lettering too! Whew!

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bout time you posted .... good job selling the rims..
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Originally posted by redmaxpa007



bout time you posted .... good job selling the rims..
Yeah.........I decided I'd find some damn rims to work.............I'd never find the calipers for what I got them for and would kick my own a$$ later down the road for regretting selling those instead of the wheels. Plus I have rotors showing up tomorrow....

Holy crap.........I have pm's from you!............Been at work all nite

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Well, for the most part, they were plug and play. The only part that wasn't plug and play was in this picture: (Copy and paste it)

http://www.sphosting.com/smg/images/...kes/300z16.jpg

That little part has a tiny lip on it, that when installed, the rotors would barely touch. So, all I did was dremeled some of it off. and I also tapped it in with a hammer. All is good now. But yes, for the most part, it is all plug and play.

Sprint, it is funny that you say that because they are 300ZX rotors, which is really weird. They do almost look too small, but the pads touch all of the rotor, and still leave a few MMs on the top of the rotor where they do not touch. But all is good.

As far as clearence, it is TOO close lol. I was almost opted to shave off the emblems because it was so close, but they add to the "bling-bling" factor lololol. Anyways, glad you guys like them, because I certainly do....
 
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Looks sweet Ramius

Glad the info I had helped ya out too.

Maybe some slacker mod.......(oh hey Sprint, how ya doin) will sticky the damn post


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Is the diameter of the rotor the same? I know that it is much thicker. Looks awesome.
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Is the diameter of the rotor the same? I know that it is much thicker. Looks awesome.
once the 3mm is milled from the radius.............yes.
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once the 3mm is milled from the radius.............yes.
What is odd is once the rotors were milled down and everything was installed, there is about 1.5-2 MM of clearence. I don't think that 3 MM from the radius is required. And as I see it, you can just shave the part of the caliper off a little bit where it curves around the top of the rotor. This will let you keep the full 11" rotor size, without having to mill it down......
 
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Originally posted by Ramius83


What is odd is once the rotors were milled down and everything was installed, there is about 1.5-2 MM of clearence. I don't think that 3 MM from the radius is required. And as I see it, you can just shave the part of the caliper off a little bit where it curves around the top of the rotor. This will let you keep the full 11" rotor size, without having to mill it down......
Hmmmmmmmmm even better
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I think I was one of the main proponents of the 3mm thing. that's what the people before me did, so I did it. This was like 3 years ago and I don't know how many people I've told to shave the 3mm. At that point, only a handful of people had done it. But you are correct that if you shave the caliper a little, you don't have to shave. I found that out when I replaced the rotors.

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What is odd is once the rotors were milled down and everything was installed, there is about 1.5-2 MM of clearence. I don't think that 3 MM from the radius is required. And as I see it, you can just shave the part of the caliper off a little bit where it curves around the top of the rotor. This will let you keep the full 11" rotor size, without having to mill it down......
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So did you machine 3mm off the radius or diameter?
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So did you machine 3mm off the radius or diameter?
I had it shaved off the radius. But, I honestly do think that it "may" be ok to just do 3-4mm off the DIAMETER....
 
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Originally posted by Ramius83


I had it shaved off the radius. But, I honestly do think that it "may" be ok to just do 3-4mm off the DIAMETER....
well what ever that means, looks very nice. Out stock calipers are tiny compared to those. Thats a sweet mod. May try that maybe next year. I am concentrating on the VI and tuning it with the SAFC for now.
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Re: Re: 300ZX Brakes Install, with Pics.......

Originally posted by Aaron95SE
RX7 wheels will not!...........well with a 9 foot spacer they might!
I'll get them to clear. I need spacers just so the RX7 wheels fit my car anyway!

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Looks good!

I'd polish or paint black the "NISSAN" though.

BTW, nice jack stands! LOL!
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good job but one question,

what happen to the dust shields?
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Re: good job but one question,

Originally posted by nismo2020
what happen to the dust shields?
You have to remove them. or make the cutout bigger for the larger ZX Caliper

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I'll get them to clear. I need spacers just so the RX7 wheels fit my car anyway!

Good luck....im thinking at least a 25mm spacer. Then with the width and offset of the rx7 wheel they will be pushed out past the wheelwell

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Congrats Erik. But my bro has them stock (he's got 92 NA 300ZX)

now you getting that ABS ?
 
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Hrmm .. Looks sweet for the price. I was dreading the pricetag of doing a brake upgrade, but for that price, I'd definately be interested, especially since my buddy who worked the SC with me has half his garage as a machine shop . Any idea if they'd clear 40mm offset tantrums? Or any estimation on how much larger they extend the caliper towards the wheel?
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I believe with the Tantrums you are okay. Kevin(g) had the 300z brakes and tantrums and it cleared fine.

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Hrmm .. Looks sweet for the price. I was dreading the pricetag of doing a brake upgrade, but for that price, I'd definately be interested, especially since my buddy who worked the SC with me has half his garage as a machine shop . Any idea if they'd clear 40mm offset tantrums? Or any estimation on how much larger they extend the caliper towards the wheel?
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
I believe with the Tantrums you are okay. Kevin(g) had the 300z brakes and tantrums and it cleared fine.

I wonder if the 26mm caliper setup would clear my stock 2K 16" 5-spokes...
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I wonder if the 26mm caliper setup would clear my stock 2K 16" 5-spokes...
Well, the 26MM caliper mainly refers to the rotor width and all. Camparing it to the 30MM caliper, they are almost identical, just smaller in width by 4MM. I'd say that it probably will not fit, atleast maybe with spacers it may.....
 
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Well, the 26MM caliper mainly refers to the rotor width and all. Camparing it to the 30MM caliper, they are almost identical, just smaller in width by 4MM. I'd say that it probably will not fit, atleast maybe with spacers it may.....
I am going to try the 26mm swap. I read a lot on PDM Racing's site about their 240SX swap, and they use the 26mm caliper due to the fact that the 30MM has wheel clearance problems on certain rims. If it fits on a 240, I am hoping that it will hold true for my car! Stay tuned...
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I am going to try the 26mm swap. I read a lot on PDM Racing's site about their 240SX swap, and they use the 26mm caliper due to the fact that the 30MM has wheel clearance problems on certain rims. If it fits on a 240, I am hoping that it will hold true for my car! Stay tuned...
Click on the links on my post refering to this swap. Its as Ramius stated. The only difference between the 26 and 30 mm calipers is the rotor thickness. The overall width of the caliper itself is the same. The 4mm difference is in the rotor channel..........not the actual width of the caliper.

The link with Asad's caliper write up shows this clearly.

Here.......

http://www.princeton.edu/~asad/zbrakes/images/4.jpg

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Good luck....im thinking at least a 25mm spacer. Then with the width and offset of the rx7 wheel they will be pushed out past the wheelwell

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Sorry, but I don't think you are right. I did a test fit with a few 3mm spacers and washers in place of the brake disc hat, and my 5mm spacer, and it almost cleared. I'm sure the caliper would clear with a 10mm spacer at the most.

I'll let you know for sure if I can ever get my hands on a set of rotors to test fit tho.

If I do need them, I've got 20 and 32mm adaptors....


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Sorry, but I don't think you are right. I did a test fit with a few 3mm spacers and washers in place of the brake disc hat, and my 5mm spacer, and it almost cleared. I'm sure the caliper would clear with a 10mm spacer at the most.

I'll let you know for sure if I can ever get my hands on a set of rotors to test fit tho.

If I do need them, I've got 20 and 32mm adaptors....


Hmmm I tore apart my whole front brake setup.....ZX Calipers, Rotors.......the RX7 wheel will need at least 20 mm spacers to clear on my 4th Gen. When holding the rx7 wheel up in position to clear the caliper all that was visible of the stud was the end there was not even one thread showing on the stud....and that was holding in as close to the caliper as possible.

On my setup, with the width and offset of that wheel if I went with spacers that size the wheel would stick out...........not good

Perhaps the 3rd gen geometry is a bit different.....fender wise.....etc.
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Looks sweet Ramius

Glad the info I had helped ya out too.

Maybe some slacker mod.......(oh hey Sprint, how ya doin) will sticky the damn post


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