General Maxima Discussion This a general area for Maxima discussions for all years. For more specific questions, visit one of the generation-specific forums.

I've decided what route I'm taking with my Maxima--all motor

Old Jan 18, 2003 | 08:58 AM
  #1  
Nealoc187's Avatar
Thread Starter
SLOW
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 14,617
From: West burbs, Chicago
I've decided what route I'm taking with my Maxima--all motor

I've decided to stay all motor for now. Much as I'd like to get a turbo kit, I don't have the money right now and to get it by spring time would be a real stretch, I'd be eating ramen noodles until then, and I don't skimp well when it comes to food.

I've decided to just round out the bolt on mods for spring, exhaust, UDP, and a JWT ECU with 7200 rev limiter. My cartest simulations show that simply raising the rev limiter from 6500 to 7000 and with NO OTHER GAINS (as far as HP/tq is concerned) it would cut .45 seconds off my 1/4 mile time and gain an incredible 3mph in the 1/4. Any HP/TQ gains are bonus material. This would put me around 14.0 on street tires and 13.5 on slicks. It's amazing how corked the MEVI cars are because of our 6500rpm rev limiter.

In the fall, when I've had a chance to save up more then I'll probably get the turbo kit, but for now I'm just too poor to be getting one.
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:05 AM
  #2  
slimer's Avatar
A couple of Blaxxx's? Lawls.
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,529
Re: I've decided what route I'm taking with my Maxima--all motor

Originally posted by Nealoc187
I've decided to stay all motor for now. Much as I'd like to get a turbo kit, I don't have the money right now and to get it by spring time would be a real stretch, I'd be eating ramen noodles until then, and I don't skimp well when it comes to food.

I've decided to just round out the bolt on mods for spring, exhaust, UDP, and a JWT ECU with 7200 rev limiter. My cartest simulations show that simply raising the rev limiter from 6500 to 7000 and with NO OTHER GAINS (as far as HP/tq is concerned) it would cut .45 seconds off my 1/4 mile time and gain an incredible 3mph in the 1/4. Any HP/TQ gains are bonus material. This would put me around 14.0 on street tires and 13.5 on slicks. It's amazing how corked the MEVI cars are because of our 6500rpm rev limiter.

In the fall, when I've had a chance to save up more then I'll probably get the turbo kit, but for now I'm just too poor to be getting one.
thats good neal, lookikng forward to some of your times this summer
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:08 AM
  #3  
thebigsadler's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 4,333
Re: Re: I've decided what route I'm taking with my Maxima--all motor

i kinda like you better without the snail.. it's nice to see people doing amazing things and going extremely different routes.
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:35 AM
  #4  
Sprint's Avatar
Administrator
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,943
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:51 AM
  #5  
MAX2000JP's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 2,151
Neal what about JWT Cams and maybe a port & polish job?
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 10:50 AM
  #6  
Dave B's Avatar
Not DAVEB the parts guy
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,549
Neal-

How are you getting a 7200 rev-limiter? I was always under the inpression that the JWT had a 7000 rev-limiter. Did you talk to them or something? If not, I was thinking about calling them up to see if they could modify my ECU to a 7200 limiter. I'm going to be holding on to my car for a while longer therefore I want to make full use of my MEVI. I'm glad CARTEST is showing some serious gains. I know what you're saying about "corked" because when I shift into 2nd and 3rd, I can feel a slight lag in power until things start going again at a fury from 5000+.


Dave
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 11:06 AM
  #7  
Victim64's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,032
If JWT would just make a 98 plus ECU

Anyone think JWT will ever do an actually ECU upgrade on 97 plus maximas?
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 11:21 AM
  #8  
Sprint's Avatar
Administrator
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,943
Originally posted by Dave B
Neal-

How are you getting a 7200 rev-limiter? I was always under the inpression that the JWT had a 7000 rev-limiter. Did you talk to them or something? If not, I was thinking about calling them up to see if they could modify my ECU to a 7200 limiter. I'm going to be holding on to my car for a while longer therefore I want to make full use of my MEVI. I'm glad CARTEST is showing some serious gains. I know what you're saying about "corked" because when I shift into 2nd and 3rd, I can feel a slight lag in power until things start going again at a fury from 5000+.


Dave
JWT can program your redline to 7700 rpms if you like..
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 11:23 AM
  #9  
Nealoc187's Avatar
Thread Starter
SLOW
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 14,617
From: West burbs, Chicago
Originally posted by Dave B
Neal-

How are you getting a 7200 rev-limiter? I was always under the inpression that the JWT had a 7000 rev-limiter. Did you talk to them or something? If not, I was thinking about calling them up to see if they could modify my ECU to a 7200 limiter. I'm going to be holding on to my car for a while longer therefore I want to make full use of my MEVI. I'm glad CARTEST is showing some serious gains. I know what you're saying about "corked" because when I shift into 2nd and 3rd, I can feel a slight lag in power until things start going again at a fury from 5000+.


Dave
JWT will do any rev limiter you specify as I understand it. Turbo95Max has an 8000rpm rev limiter if I recall correctly.
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 11:51 AM
  #10  
Soon2BMaxed's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,308
Originally posted by Nealoc187


JWT will do any rev limiter you specify as I understand it. Turbo95Max has an 8000rpm rev limiter if I recall correctly.
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 12:40 PM
  #11  
I30tMikeD's Avatar
Moderator who thinks he is better than us with his I30
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,332
Good news Neal. I was just about to email you concerning the gains of adding the JWT ECU to a MEVI. I hope your calculations are right. Half a second???

I had decided to do the same(MEVI and JWT ECU), but Brian already sold his MEVI It would have been nice to be able to buy everything at once. Especially locally.
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 02:14 PM
  #12  
95emeraldgxe's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,653
Originally posted by Nealoc187

youTurbo95Max has an 8000rpm rev limiter if I recall correctly.

WHOA!!!!!!!!!!
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 03:12 PM
  #13  
emax02's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,162
Nice to see some good NA competition
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 03:51 PM
  #14  
Dave B's Avatar
Not DAVEB the parts guy
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,549
OMG!!! This is great news because a 7200rpm limiter would be ideal. Theoretically, you want your shift point ~500rpms after peak. Judging from my dyno plots, it looks like power is starting to fall off around 6400-6500rpms SO ~7000-7200rpms would be perfect. Now I just need to find a 5 speed ECU with a similiar VIN.


Dave
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 04:19 PM
  #15  
Soul Fly
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
good choice jed
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 05:56 PM
  #16  
Black VQ's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,018
Nice to hear you're upping the ante. It's always cool to see how far people can take a car without nitrous, SC, or turbo.

I think we should name your car "VaderMax."hehe
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 10:26 PM
  #17  
NYCe MaXiMa's Avatar
...needs to please stop post whoring.
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 9,284


considering you'll be running N/A what many S/Cd VQs run.. it's not too bad of an idea..

turbo can wait
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 03:36 AM
  #18  
dwapenyi's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 5,998
8000 rpms Turbo95 must have an extra specal UDP on that biatch! I can only imagine his AC compressor or ALT flying off from those dizzying rpms.

Any idea on how much just a fuel cut adjustment costs on a stock ECU?

DW


Originally posted by Nealoc187


JWT will do any rev limiter you specify as I understand it. Turbo95Max has an 8000rpm rev limiter if I recall correctly.
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 10:48 AM
  #19  
95maxrider's Avatar
Lightly modded
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,742
From: Herndon, VA
i thought that to raise the rev-limiter, you would need to get cams or some things, cause otherwise you would float your valves or something. wont there be reliability problems from this if you dont build some parts in the motor? im sorry, i have no real idea what im talking about, but i seem to remember reading about things like this in the past. please fill me in
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:49 AM
  #20  
Black VQ's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,018
Originally posted by 95maxrider
i thought that to raise the rev-limiter, you would need to get cams or some things, cause otherwise you would float your valves or something. wont there be reliability problems from this if you dont build some parts in the motor?
Yeah, higher revs place extra stress on engines, sometimes even more stress than forced induction. However, stronger valve springs prevent valve float and valve-piston contact that can occur at higher rpm levels.
Cams only affect how the valves open and close. The rev-limiter is programmed into the ECU, so to raise the limiter, you need to get the computer reprogrammed.
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:40 PM
  #21  
dwapenyi's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 5,998
But, other than someone completely rebuilding their motor, who installs stronger valve springs?

DW

Originally posted by Black VQ


. . . . However, stronger valve springs prevent valve float and valve-piston contact that can occur at higher rpm levels. . . .
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
adamgalazka
8th Generation Maxima (2016-)
10
Feb 5, 2023 08:24 AM
AcuraLegend
Infiniti I30/I35
10
Oct 17, 2016 08:47 PM
AcuraLegend
5th Generation Classifieds (2000-2003)
13
Sep 22, 2015 04:22 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:14 AM.