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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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Need Help to UNBEND BODY KIT!!!

The body shop received the ground kit that I ordered. I went down and was SHOCKED!!!! Each piece (front, back, sides) was folded into three's!! They were then taped that way with clear packing tape, labeled and shipped. No box, no nothing!!!!

I've ordered body kits before and NEVER have received it in such a manner. My problem now is to figure out how to get all the pieces straight and back to their original shape. The main concern are the sides as those have to be "perfect".

Have any of you had this happen to you and if so, how did you get it back to its original shape?

Thanks in advance!!
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Re: Need Help to UNBEND BODY KIT!!!

Theres 2 things you can do

Use a heat gun and just warm the pieces up.

Or use a hair dryer, it will work like the heat gun but it will take longer.
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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Re: Re: Need Help to UNBEND BODY KIT!!!

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Theres 2 things you can do

Use a heat gun and just warm the pieces up.

Or use a hair dryer, it will work like the heat gun but it will take longer.
Thanks Ethan, but is this normal for a company to sell a product, deform it before packing it, and then you gotta undo what the company did to get your product right? This is gonna cost me more for the body shop to do because of what I think is a cheap way to send a product.

I'm thought that a heat gun or blow dryer would work, but how about just placing it in the sun? Maybe that'll help a little. Did you get your kit sent that way?

I guess what I'm wondering is, if this is a normal way to send ground kits nowadays???
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Need Help to UNBEND BODY KIT!!!

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Thanks Ethan, but is this normal for a company to sell a product, deform it before packing it, and then you gotta undo what the company did to get your product right? This is gonna cost me more for the body shop to do because of what I think is a cheap way to send a product.

I'm thought that a heat gun or blow dryer would work, but how about just placing it in the sun? Maybe that'll help a little. Did you get your kit sent that way?

I guess what I'm wondering is, if this is a normal way to send ground kits nowadays???
hey, when I received my bodykits they were bent too, but at least they were in boxes. I think the reason they are shipping this way is help saving shipping cost, cuz i thinkthe bigger the box is the more its going to cost. I just use hair dryer and got 'em back into original shape in like 15 mins
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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Re: Need Help to UNBEND BODY KIT!!!

Originally posted by maximilion
Have any of you had this happen to you and if so, how did you get it back to its original shape?
That's basically how my Stillen kit arrived. Do what Ethan said and it should be fine.
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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hey, when I received my bodykits they were bent too, but at least they were in boxes. I think the reason they are shipping this way is help saving shipping cost, cuz i thinkthe bigger the box is the more its going to cost. I just use hair dryer and got 'em back into original shape in like 15 mins
Were the sides bent in two places? How well did they "straighten" out? I mean, my kit was basically folded like a bologna sandwich!! It was pathetic to see my $800 kit folded, taped and shipped as is!! NO BOX!
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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when you mount it on your car i dont think the bend will show anymore, unless its like literally folded in half or something
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
when you mount it on your car i dont think the bend will show anymore, unless its like literally folded in half or something
That's EXACTLY how it was folded except it was folded into three's instead of two's if it was folded in half. I am 100% sure if I don't get at least the sides straight, it will show when installing.
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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Were the sides bent in two places? How well did they "straighten" out? I mean, my kit was basically folded like a bologna sandwich!! It was pathetic to see my $800 kit folded, taped and shipped as is!! NO BOX!
my sides were folded in half, i don't think it will show. my didn't show anything right after i straighten 'em out
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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my sides were folded in half, i don't think it will show. my didn't show anything right after i straighten 'em out
I think I just got shafted. It looked liked the sides were folded and then squashed to make it as flat as possible!! I'm not joking or exaggerating. When I unfolded them, they were very noticably bend and deformed.

THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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Mine came the exact same way...there has been tons of people that have gotten kits in the same manner, and all of them have been able to be fixed and installed.

That is the wonderful thing about urethane, it can bend and be rolled into a ball...With a little bit of heat and some patience, the parts will straighten right back out

Just try doing that with a fiberglass kit
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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I think I just got shafted. It looked liked the sides were folded and then squashed to make it as flat as possible!! I'm not joking or exaggerating. When I unfolded them, they were very noticably bend and deformed.

THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maximilion i understand why you are upset, i would be too if they shipped it like that. Try to take your time, heat it up nice and slow, hopefully you'll get it back into original shape
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by maximilion


That's EXACTLY how it was folded except it was folded into three's instead of two's if it was folded in half. I am 100% sure if I don't get at least the sides straight, it will show when installing.
according to most of the people that have responded, they all had the same problem, but managed to correct it, hopefully you will fall under that same category
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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Tell the body shop to lay the pieces down in the spray booth when they bake the next car. The heat in there will make them soft enough to straighten them out nicely.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 06:08 AM
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I just placed my front spoiler on the roof or a couple days and the shape came right back with no warping...
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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Thanks to all who responded to my plea's!! The company has responded by saying that they had no other way to ship it. YEAH RIGHT!!! The post office refused to ship it in a box?? YEAH RIGHT!!!! They suggested I leave it in the sun and it should straighten out.

I hope this works as my car is being put back together as they are going to paint and install the kit for free since they are already fixing/painting my car.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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No, that's not what I said. I stated that the DIMENSIONS of the box were the problem. I also stated that if there are any problems, that I would take care of it. We COULDN'T SHIP IT IN THE BOX IT CAME IN DUE TO ITS DIMENSIONS. Simple as that. UPS deemed it too large. Airborne deemed it too large. USPS deemed it too large. This is why we had to do USPS with the kit folded. We found no other way to ship the kit. Period. I have apologized three times, and most other companies wouldn't care to say anything. As a long time supporter of Maxima.org and a member (Maxima driver as well), I have been here every time with everyone who has had a problem. If you don't want to "risk" it not going back to its regular shape, please feel free to ship the body kit back and we'll refund it in full.

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PS We leave all of our body kits which are to be painted out in the sun, so as to regain its original shape.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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When I sold my body kit, the only company that will ship it at a good rate was Fed EX. I had it shipped for less than $40 unfolded.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Need Help to UNBEND BODY KIT!!!

Originally posted by BioMaxDDS
hey, when I received my bodykits they were bent too, but at least they were in boxes. I think the reason they are shipping this way is help saving shipping cost, cuz i thinkthe bigger the box is the more its going to cost. I just use hair dryer and got 'em back into original shape in like 15 mins
I don't mean to accuse Alex of anything, but Alex, didn't Biomaxdds order the kit from you too? Read this post and please explain how you were able to send it to him in a box and not me! At no one time, did I ask that it be sent in the box that it came in, just in some kind of box. Why couldn't a box be cut up just a little bigger than the kit after it was folded? Although it appears to be okay, next time someone else orders, it may not be okay and you gotta eat the cost because of no box. I left your name out of this entire thread as to not point fingers to you and possibly create any negative feedback, buy since you responded I only now mention where I got it from.

I truly appreciate your appoliges but can't I still express my concern with this kit? I still have nothing bad to say about you and your company.

Peace.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by amixam98
When I sold my body kit, the only company that will ship it at a good rate was Fed EX. I had it shipped for less than $40 unfolded.
INTERESTING - And I don't think FedEx has different standards because I live in Hawaii. Different prices I can understand, but different size restrictions, I don't think so. On a side note, my friend just ordered a fiberglass ground kit for his '02 Camry, it's being shipped UPS, and BTW, YOU CAN'T FOLD IT and he lives in Hawaii too!!!
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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INTERESTING - And I don't think FedEx has different standards because I live in Hawaii.
Maximillion, don't feel so bad....the urethane will go back to its original form. My Stillen kit came in the same way...
And yes, UPS, FedEx and USPS has a different policy for shipping to Hawaii cause it has to be air frieght to us unless you want to wait then it can be sent through barge(ship).
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by EZEMaxima


Maximillion, don't feel so bad....the urethane will go back to its original form. My Stillen kit came in the same way...
And yes, UPS, FedEx and USPS has a different policy for shipping to Hawaii cause it has to be air frieght to us unless you want to wait then it can be sent through barge(ship).
I'll admit that I could be wrong. BUT, when I see my friends kit arrive UNBENT and by UPS, I will make a VERY STRONG POINT.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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I'll admit that I could be wrong. BUT, when I see my friends kit arrive UNBENT and by UPS, I will make a VERY STRONG POINT.
I tried alot of times with FedEx and UPS, or USPS to try and get big boxes shipped to Hawaii. On their sites, they even had easy freight calculator where you need to input the weight and the dimensions of the boxes. Most of the time, the dimensions given to me by my friend to get ground effects kit with over the limit. I even spoke to the delivery drivers for each company since i work as a receiving clerk, most of the response i get is "it can't be too big" and or "we have a size limit". Unless your friends has some kind of inside connection.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by EZEMaxima


I tried alot of times with FedEx and UPS, or USPS to try and get big boxes shipped to Hawaii. On their sites, they even had easy freight calculator where you need to input the weight and the dimensions of the boxes. Most of the time, the dimensions given to me by my friend to get ground effects kit with over the limit. I even spoke to the delivery drivers for each company since i work as a receiving clerk, most of the response i get is "it can't be too big" and or "we have a size limit". Unless your friends has some kind of inside connection.
No connection what so ever. he just ordered it from a catalog - no special treatment. I know the weight limit is 150 pounds.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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But enough is enough. I will put this thread in the grave. This is just pointless. If Alex says I can just "reshape" the kit, I will per his instructions. If the kit comes out good they YEAHHHHH! If not, I'm sending it back.

I wish to apoligize to Alex and the org community for such a stupid thing. I hope everything will work out and no hard feelings Alex.

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Travis, I completely understand. I again apologize for not being perfect with it, but I do promise it will go back to its normal shape. We have been fighting with every shipping company, and we usually get charged ridiculous prices to ship body kits, so again, I apologize for the incident, and if I can be of further help, please feel free to contact me any time.
Thanks
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awwww.... We have a happy ending..


Now time to lock it!
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by Max8MyCash
Travis, I completely understand. I again apologize for not being perfect with it, but I do promise it will go back to its normal shape. We have been fighting with every shipping company, and we usually get charged ridiculous prices to ship body kits, so again, I apologize for the incident, and if I can be of further help, please feel free to contact me any time.
Thanks
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Thanks for your understanding, I guess I've been having a ****ty day and I apologize for taking it out on you. I'm going to try my best to get it back, but if for some reason it doens't, I'm sending the kit back. Any more suggestions? I want to be sure I follow YOUR instructions as to not create any more problems with the return.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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All I can tell you is this...I've seen a urethane kit bent and twisted in more ways than you can imagine, and after a day in the hot sun, it was ready to go. Again, if there is any problems with the kit, I will be happy to have it picked up, and send you another one.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Max8MyCash
All I can tell you is this...I've seen a urethane kit bent and twisted in more ways than you can imagine, and after a day in the hot sun, it was ready to go. Again, if there is any problems with the kit, I will be happy to have it picked up, and send you another one.
Thanks again
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I want to make sure I do this right, so the only way YOU suggest is to put out in the sun? I want to make clear on this as I don't want to try something that will prohibit me from returning the product. Heat gun? Blow Dryer? Does you suggest these as well? I've even heard of someone using the oven.

Also, how long should it be left in the sun before we should start seeing results? BTW, I live in "America's rainest city" so, finding a hot sunny day might be a little tough.

I just got off the phone with the body shop and the kit's been in the sun for a few hours and it still looks the same.
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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so...

I have a question. Kinda sounds stupid but can you bend a PAINTED body kit? Does the paint start to crack or something... I'm only asking cuz I was thinking about getting a used already-painted kit. Actually it was just the lip. Alright thanks!
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by nadir_s
so...

I have a question. Kinda sounds stupid but can you bend a PAINTED body kit? Does the paint start to crack or something... I'm only asking cuz I was thinking about getting a used already-painted kit. Actually it was just the lip. Alright thanks!
Well, yes and no. If flex additive is added to the paint then you can bend it but only so much. Definately not to the point that my kit was bent, but you can bend it a little. Flex additive is just so that the paint doesn't crack during minor "everyday" flexing. I wouldn't recommend bending the kit TOO much in your case.
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Question...

I recently had my Stillen kit painted. Before I dropped it off for paint, I used a hair dryer on the side skirts to remove the creases left from shipping (they came bent). No problem!

I picked up the kit, and the side skirts are severaly warped, to the point that they won't fit on the car if I tried (I'm not installing it until April though).

My question is: if I lay it in the sun, will it come back to form? They said it is warped because it went from being baked, right to the cold air, so it changed shape. They said they would bake it before installing it, so I assume it will go back to form. Just a little nervous that they may have deformed it while baking it or something...

anyone have an opinion on this?
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I got mine from Nopi and it was fine it came in one whole box and it was bubbled rapped.
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Re: Question...

Originally posted by araffio
I recently had my Stillen kit painted. Before I dropped it off for paint, I used a hair dryer on the side skirts to remove the creases left from shipping (they came bent). No problem!

I picked up the kit, and the side skirts are severaly warped, to the point that they won't fit on the car if I tried (I'm not installing it until April though).

My question is: if I lay it in the sun, will it come back to form? They said it is warped because it went from being baked, right to the cold air, so it changed shape. They said they would bake it before installing it, so I assume it will go back to form. Just a little nervous that they may have deformed it while baking it or something...

anyone have an opinion on this?
Based on everything you said, it all makes sense. Try using a blow dryer again to straighten the kit. I'll be trying to reshape my kit later today so I'll let everyone know how it turns out.
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Re: Re: Question...

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Based on everything you said, it all makes sense. Try using a blow dryer again to straighten the kit. I'll be trying to reshape my kit later today so I'll let everyone know how it turns out.

I blowdryer will never work, there is just too much service area that would need to be heated. It's not creased, its just very wavy and out of shape. I think I'll just leave it up to my guy at the shop to take care of it. He does good work and would never give the car back to me with a kit that didn't look right.
Waiting til April anyway...
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Re: Re: Question...

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Based on everything you said, it all makes sense. Try using a blow dryer again to straighten the kit. I'll be trying to reshape my kit later today so I'll let everyone know how it turns out.

A blowdryer will never work, there is just too much service area that would need to be heated. It's not creased, its just very wavy and out of shape. I think I'll just leave it up to my guy at the shop to take care of it. He does good work and would never give the car back to me with a kit that didn't look right.
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UPDATE!!

The sun did straighten out the kit BUT, it is still deformed at the points where the kit was folded. It did not go back completely so I'm gonna try and use a heat gun to shape it.

The front and back came out pretty good. I just gotta fix the openings to make them equal to each other.

Modifying the front lip shouldn't be too hard. The first thing you gotta do is the cut out the front lip of the kit because the 2k2 max stock bumper has a piece that sticks out which will prevent the kit from going on. I'm gonna make a template out of card board first to make sure that the cut is perfect. Then, I'm gonna trace it on the kit and cut it out. After that, I should be able to mount the kit to the bumper and go from there.

I will try and post pics as we go along.

Thanks to everyone's help as I tried to get my sh@t straight. Literally!!

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