Preliminary pics of the Ionic dynamics front lip!!
02-11-2003, 11:32 PM
#1
Preliminary pics of the Ionic dynamics front lip!!
Hi!
I have new pics of the font lip that I have been working on. The only diffrence is that it will also be available with two small ducts under the fog lamps.
Here is the link: http://www.ionicdynamics.com/97_99lip.html
Just in case if anyone is wondering why my headlights are crooked it's because they were taken off so we could work on making a grill and I put them back on for the pics.
The price for maxima.org members for the front lip will be about $120.00 and the price for the new full Ionic kit will be $400 dollars plus shipping
Keep in mind that this is top quality fiberglass that will NOT break easely.
Thanks!
I have new pics of the font lip that I have been working on. The only diffrence is that it will also be available with two small ducts under the fog lamps.
Here is the link: http://www.ionicdynamics.com/97_99lip.html
Just in case if anyone is wondering why my headlights are crooked it's because they were taken off so we could work on making a grill and I put them back on for the pics.
The price for maxima.org members for the front lip will be about $120.00 and the price for the new full Ionic kit will be $400 dollars plus shipping
Keep in mind that this is top quality fiberglass that will NOT break easely.
Thanks!
02-12-2003, 01:12 AM
#4
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I think it would look a lot better if the edges of the kit, where they meet the wheel well, continued the circular line of the fender around the wheel well. A small change, but I think it would look a lot cleaner. 
02-12-2003, 07:11 AM
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Looks good to me. Its very clean and oem looking.
Just what I'm looking for, I'm game for 1 when they are ready.
But hakk97se is correct. Would be cleaner if that ridge is taken away and the front lip continues to follow the contours of the wheel well
Just what I'm looking for, I'm game for 1 when they are ready.
But hakk97se is correct. Would be cleaner if that ridge is taken away and the front lip continues to follow the contours of the wheel well
02-12-2003, 07:15 AM
#16
Re: Preliminary pics of the Ionic dynamics front lip!!
Originally posted by ionicmax
Hi!
I have new pics of the font lip that I have been working on. The only diffrence is that it will also be available with two small ducts under the fog lamps.
Here is the link: http://www.ionicdynamics.com/97_99lip.html
Just in case if anyone is wondering why my headlights are crooked it's because they were taken off so we could work on making a grill and I put them back on for the pics.
The price for maxima.org members for the front lip will be about $120.00 and the price for the new full Ionic kit will be $400 dollars plus shipping
Keep in mind that this is top quality fiberglass that will NOT break easely.
Thanks!
Hi!
I have new pics of the font lip that I have been working on. The only diffrence is that it will also be available with two small ducts under the fog lamps.
Here is the link: http://www.ionicdynamics.com/97_99lip.html
Just in case if anyone is wondering why my headlights are crooked it's because they were taken off so we could work on making a grill and I put them back on for the pics.
The price for maxima.org members for the front lip will be about $120.00 and the price for the new full Ionic kit will be $400 dollars plus shipping
Keep in mind that this is top quality fiberglass that will NOT break easely.
Thanks!
02-12-2003, 07:16 AM
#17
Originally posted by 98coupev6
so the material is fiberglass right? are u guys making one out of urethane? but for $120 i'll be interested...
so the material is fiberglass right? are u guys making one out of urethane? but for $120 i'll be interested...
all of their kits are fiberglass....urethane is "expensive"
02-12-2003, 07:27 AM
#19
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Fiberglass or Urethane???... that is the question
I agree that it should be made out of urethane. Fiberglass is chaep and that is how they are able to sell it for $120.00 but if you crack it the first week you have then you arent really saving any money then. To get the fiberglass piece fixed and painted even one time would cost just as much(including the original purchase and paint job) if you bought a Stillen urethane one and had it painted and not have to worry about it cracking.
02-12-2003, 07:35 AM
#20
Re: Fiberglass or Urethane???... that is the question
Originally posted by Swafford98
I agree that it should be made out of urethane. Fiberglass is chaep and that is how they are able to sell it for $120.00 but if you crack it the first week you have then you arent really saving any money then. To get the fiberglass piece fixed and painted even one time would cost just as much(including the original purchase and paint job) if you bought a Stillen urethane one and had it painted and not have to worry about it cracking.
I agree that it should be made out of urethane. Fiberglass is chaep and that is how they are able to sell it for $120.00 but if you crack it the first week you have then you arent really saving any money then. To get the fiberglass piece fixed and painted even one time would cost just as much(including the original purchase and paint job) if you bought a Stillen urethane one and had it painted and not have to worry about it cracking.
yes just like any fiberglass kit Sarona,Skyline,(especially when you guys have your cars lowered....)...this is cheaper and it will still cost the same to repair it but you still only pay $120.00 for the lip not $350-$400 or more like whole front bumpers...
02-12-2003, 07:40 AM
#21
Originally posted by deezo
Throw in a couple of intake vents and it would be really nice.
Throw in a couple of intake vents and it would be really nice.
that's what I meant about it also being available with two ducts under the foglmps.Maximazero: Wow thanks for the props! I'm really glad that you like it since IMHO you make the best designs for the maxima. I never saw that front lip before, but it looks awesome on the R34. What I wanted to achieve is a clean look on the maximas front end, if you look closely at the 97-99 front bumper it has alot of bumps, I wanted to clean it out.
hakk97se: That's going to be taken care of on the production pieces, you have a good eye!
metallic97gxe: Thanks, and your side skirts should be delivered tomorrow!
amixam98: Did you get my PM with the quote you asked for?
nupe500: I don't know why fiberglass has such a bad reputation. I mean it was one of the first composite materials to be used industrially, you have boats, cars, airplane panels being made out of fiberglass. I know from my own personal experience that when you use good quality fiberglass and workmanship you really shouldn't have anything to worry about.
maxfanfromohio, Kashoggio, ReddoG_max and everyone else thanks for the props!
I just wanted to add that this front lip will not scrape as much as the Stillen front lip because it's not as low and it doesn't stick out as much, thus giving us more ground clearance something that we will all appreciate.
Thanks!
02-12-2003, 07:43 AM
#23
Re: Re: Fiberglass or Urethane???... that is the question
Originally posted by metallic97gxe
yes just like any fiberglass kit Sarona,Skyline,(especially when you guys have your cars lowered....)...this is cheaper and it will still cost the same to repair it but you still only pay $120.00 for the lip not $350-$400 or more like whole front bumpers...
yes just like any fiberglass kit Sarona,Skyline,(especially when you guys have your cars lowered....)...this is cheaper and it will still cost the same to repair it but you still only pay $120.00 for the lip not $350-$400 or more like whole front bumpers...
Not to mention the fact that the Stillen looks much better...
02-12-2003, 07:46 AM
#24
Re: Re: Re: Fiberglass or Urethane???... that is the question
Originally posted by araffio
If you're going to end up paying for a repair, why not buy a urethane for more $$ up front, and not have to worry about repairs?? Makes sense...
Not to mention the fact that the Stillen looks much better...
If you're going to end up paying for a repair, why not buy a urethane for more $$ up front, and not have to worry about repairs?? Makes sense...
Not to mention the fact that the Stillen looks much better...
02-12-2003, 07:48 AM
#25
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fiberglass or Urethane???... that is the question
Originally posted by metallic97gxe
very true I'm just defending Ionic his kit is fiberglass like Sarona and the Skyline kit for less money in a lip piece...and we have not heard any "BAD Ionic kit" posts like the Skyline and Sarona...
very true I'm just defending Ionic his kit is fiberglass like Sarona and the Skyline kit for less money in a lip piece...and we have not heard any "BAD Ionic kit" posts like the Skyline and Sarona...
Understandable
02-12-2003, 08:20 AM
#28
Re: Fiberglass or Urethane???... that is the question
Originally posted by Swafford98
Fiberglass is chaep and that is how they are able to sell it for $120.00 but if you crack it the first week you have then you arent really saving any money then. To get the fiberglass piece fixed and painted even one time would cost just as much(including the original purchase and paint job) if you bought a Stillen urethane one and had it painted and not have to worry about it cracking.
Fiberglass is chaep and that is how they are able to sell it for $120.00 but if you crack it the first week you have then you arent really saving any money then. To get the fiberglass piece fixed and painted even one time would cost just as much(including the original purchase and paint job) if you bought a Stillen urethane one and had it painted and not have to worry about it cracking.
On another note fiberglass is cheap to repair, and would not cost as much as the original purchase price to have it repaired.
Oh and one last thing, I don't sacrifice quality for a profit, so my fiberglass products are well made and don't crack easily. You might be able to chip or even crack the gel coat but not the fiberglass underneath.
araffio: When I call Stillen's sales reps what extension do I dial to get a hold of you? I might be interested in buying a "Stillen" kit.
metallic97gxe: I'm going to check it right now
1MAX2NV: Thanks!
02-12-2003, 08:45 AM
#30
Re: Re: Fiberglass or Urethane???... that is the question
I appreciate your respones, and would like to see pics of the lip with the vents...also do you think it would be possible to coat the inside of the lip with a urethane/rubberish type agent...and would that even help eleviate this fiberglass cracking issue at hand, I would say that is my biggest issue...seen some cracked kits in person...reason I bring this up, but it is clean looking, oh..and with the snow in the NE I don't want that bish to become a plow...you feel me?
Originally posted by ionicmax
Swafford98: Lets see here. If you hit a Stillen front lip hard aren't you going to have to repaint it? It's the same here, if you hit my front lip hard it's going to scrape and you are going to have to repair it. By the way fiberglass is not cheap it has alot of labor involved, way more than Urethane kits have, that's what the big companies love about urethane kits not having to pay labor costs. Stillens cost for each urethane piece should be less than 10 dollars, so please tell me what the cheap piece is. What is expensive are the molds and machinery to be able to make them, after that the money keeps rolling in.
On another note fiberglass is cheap to repair, and would not cost as much as the original purchase price to have it repaired.
Oh and one last thing, I don't sacrifice quality for a profit, so my fiberglass products are well made and don't crack easily. You might be able to chip or even crack the gel coat but not the fiberglass underneath.
araffio: When I call Stillen's sales reps what extension do I dial to get a hold of you? I might be interested in buying a "Stillen" kit.
metallic97gxe: I'm going to check it right now
1MAX2NV: Thanks!
Swafford98: Lets see here. If you hit a Stillen front lip hard aren't you going to have to repaint it? It's the same here, if you hit my front lip hard it's going to scrape and you are going to have to repair it. By the way fiberglass is not cheap it has alot of labor involved, way more than Urethane kits have, that's what the big companies love about urethane kits not having to pay labor costs. Stillens cost for each urethane piece should be less than 10 dollars, so please tell me what the cheap piece is. What is expensive are the molds and machinery to be able to make them, after that the money keeps rolling in.
On another note fiberglass is cheap to repair, and would not cost as much as the original purchase price to have it repaired.
Oh and one last thing, I don't sacrifice quality for a profit, so my fiberglass products are well made and don't crack easily. You might be able to chip or even crack the gel coat but not the fiberglass underneath.
araffio: When I call Stillen's sales reps what extension do I dial to get a hold of you? I might be interested in buying a "Stillen" kit.
metallic97gxe: I'm going to check it right now
1MAX2NV: Thanks!
02-12-2003, 09:00 AM
#31
Originally posted by ionicmax
nupe500: I don't know why fiberglass has such a bad reputation. I mean it was one of the first composite materials to be used industrially, you have boats, cars, airplane panels being made out of fiberglass. I know from my own personal experience that when you use good quality fiberglass and workmanship you really shouldn't have anything to worry about.
nupe500: I don't know why fiberglass has such a bad reputation. I mean it was one of the first composite materials to be used industrially, you have boats, cars, airplane panels being made out of fiberglass. I know from my own personal experience that when you use good quality fiberglass and workmanship you really shouldn't have anything to worry about.
02-12-2003, 09:03 AM
#32
Originally posted by ionicmax
nupe500: I don't know why fiberglass has such a bad reputation. I mean it was one of the first composite materials to be used industrially, you have boats, cars, airplane panels being made out of fiberglass. I know from my own personal experience that when you use good quality fiberglass and workmanship you really shouldn't have anything to worry about.
nupe500: I don't know why fiberglass has such a bad reputation. I mean it was one of the first composite materials to be used industrially, you have boats, cars, airplane panels being made out of fiberglass. I know from my own personal experience that when you use good quality fiberglass and workmanship you really shouldn't have anything to worry about.
these cars are probably going to be lowered and a hit going off/on driveway might scrape them.
not saying that i'll crack the fiberglass...but overall the urethane is more flexible compared to fiberglass. both have it's pros and cons.
even u said it..if u hit a urethane piece you'll need to repaint it due to spyder cracks. if u hit a fiberglass piece you're going to need to fix the broken piece and then repaint it.
IMO it looks pretty good...i'm sure the added vents would look better. just trying to express some of the member's concern on this.
02-12-2003, 09:13 AM
#33
Originally posted by DanNY
even u said it..if u hit a urethane piece you'll need to repaint it due to spyder cracks. if u hit a fiberglass piece you're going to need to fix the broken piece and then repaint it.
IMO it looks pretty good...i'm sure the added vents would look better. just trying to express some of the member's concern on this.
even u said it..if u hit a urethane piece you'll need to repaint it due to spyder cracks. if u hit a fiberglass piece you're going to need to fix the broken piece and then repaint it.
IMO it looks pretty good...i'm sure the added vents would look better. just trying to express some of the member's concern on this.
And I did not say that it would be "broken" I said it would scraped.
You can ask other org members about the durability of my kits and you will see that they can take good hits with no breaking.
02-12-2003, 09:46 AM
#34
Originally posted by ionicmax
I understand your concern, I'm just trying to make my self clear that GOOD fiberglass does NOT break easily!
And I did not say that it would be "broken" I said it would scraped.
You can ask other org members about the durability of my kits and you will see that they can take good hits with no breaking.
I understand your concern, I'm just trying to make my self clear that GOOD fiberglass does NOT break easily!
And I did not say that it would be "broken" I said it would scraped.
You can ask other org members about the durability of my kits and you will see that they can take good hits with no breaking.
OK maybe they're durable fiberglass, but they don't look good
PS- I have nothing to do with Stillen, just expressing my opinion on kits, which is what you asked for
02-12-2003, 10:37 AM
#35
Looks good! Those vents should add a little more style, but overall I think it looks very good.
As for the fiberglass vs. urethane bit... of course everyone would rather have urethane, but it's pretty clear that only a big company can afford the upfront costs of urethane molds. So that leaves us with fiberglass.
I can testify to the quality of the fiberglass used for my Ionic sides and rear. I have hit several different things with the rear pieces on several occasions, including a curb, a small hill and someone's rock-wall landscaping. On that last one I was damn near sure I broke something off because it sounded like hell, but everything was a-ok.
As for the fiberglass vs. urethane bit... of course everyone would rather have urethane, but it's pretty clear that only a big company can afford the upfront costs of urethane molds. So that leaves us with fiberglass.
I can testify to the quality of the fiberglass used for my Ionic sides and rear. I have hit several different things with the rear pieces on several occasions, including a curb, a small hill and someone's rock-wall landscaping. On that last one I was damn near sure I broke something off because it sounded like hell, but everything was a-ok.
02-12-2003, 10:40 AM
#37
I like the lip design. It definately needs some 'finishing' touches like contouring around the wheel well and maybe some "speed holes" (obscure Simpsons reference of the day) to give it some character. The price is right, and I don't plan to scrape my lip anyway so the fiberglass vs. urethane argument is moot.
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02-12-2003, 10:49 AM
#38
I think the design is definitely going in the right direction. I'm fine with fiberglass at that price, especially if it is a durable, quality product. Are you planning to make another test lip with the variations you mentioned in the near future? Finally, what time frame are we looking at before we're able to buy the full kit
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02-12-2003, 10:49 AM
#39
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DO NOT ADD VENTS. Please keep it the way it is. It looks more JDM like right now. Adding vents will make it look like american designed front lip. ie. Wings West, VIS.
02-12-2003, 10:59 AM
#40
Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
DO NOT ADD VENTS. Please keep it the way it is. It looks more JDM like right now. Adding vents will make it look like american designed front lip. ie. Wings West, VIS.
DO NOT ADD VENTS. Please keep it the way it is. It looks more JDM like right now. Adding vents will make it look like american designed front lip. ie. Wings West, VIS.
very,very ture or make two designs one w/vents and one w/out...vents I like the design now the way it is...clean and simple...