Hi!

I have new pics of the font lip that I have been working on. The only diffrence is that it will also be available with two small ducts under the fog lamps.

Here is the link: http://www.ionicdynamics.com/97_99lip.html

Just in case if anyone is wondering why my headlights are crooked it's because they were taken off so we could work on making a grill and I put them back on for the pics.

The price for maxima.org members for the front lip will be about $120.00 and the price for the new full Ionic kit will be $400 dollars plus shipping

Keep in mind that this is top quality fiberglass that will NOT break easely.

Thanks!

 

nice! it reminds me of a kit for the R34 GTS

 

 

I think it would look a lot better if the edges of the kit, where they meet the wheel well, continued the circular line of the fender around the wheel well. A small change, but I think it would look a lot cleaner.

 

man that looks good

 

looks pretty good, goes with the rest of your kit well.

 

Looks good. Can't beat the price.

 

I like it. YOu could put me down for one when they become available.

 

I also like it...but kinda worried about the fiberglass...is it possible for you guys to make it out of urethane? for durability? but for $120...damn...I might be sold.....

 

I don't like it

 

not bad.

 

looks good, but a bit too plain for me

 

Throw in a couple of intake vents and it would be really nice.

 

Looks good to me. Its very clean and oem looking.
Just what I'm looking for, I'm game for 1 when they are ready.

But hakk97se is correct. Would be cleaner if that ridge is taken away and the front lip continues to follow the contours of the wheel well

 

so the material is fiberglass right? are u guys making one out of urethane? but for $120 i'll be interested...

 

do one for a 95-96 and im in

 

all of their kits are fiberglass....urethane is "expensive"

 

 

I agree that it should be made out of urethane. Fiberglass is chaep and that is how they are able to sell it for $120.00 but if you crack it the first week you have then you arent really saving any money then. To get the fiberglass piece fixed and painted even one time would cost just as much(including the original purchase and paint job) if you bought a Stillen urethane one and had it painted and not have to worry about it cracking.

 

yes just like any fiberglass kit Sarona,Skyline,(especially when you guys have your cars lowered....)...this is cheaper and it will still cost the same to repair it but you still only pay $120.00 for the lip not $350-$400 or more like whole front bumpers...

 

Dezzo: Yes we are going to have them available with some intake vents that's what I meant about it also being available with two ducts under the foglmps.

Maximazero: Wow thanks for the props! I'm really glad that you like it since IMHO you make the best designs for the maxima. I never saw that front lip before, but it looks awesome on the R34. What I wanted to achieve is a clean look on the maximas front end, if you look closely at the 97-99 front bumper it has alot of bumps, I wanted to clean it out.

hakk97se: That's going to be taken care of on the production pieces, you have a good eye!

metallic97gxe: Thanks, and your side skirts should be delivered tomorrow!

amixam98: Did you get my PM with the quote you asked for?

nupe500: I don't know why fiberglass has such a bad reputation. I mean it was one of the first composite materials to be used industrially, you have boats, cars, airplane panels being made out of fiberglass. I know from my own personal experience that when you use good quality fiberglass and workmanship you really shouldn't have anything to worry about.

maxfanfromohio, Kashoggio, ReddoG_max and everyone else thanks for the props!

I just wanted to add that this front lip will not scrape as much as the Stillen front lip because it's not as low and it doesn't stick out as much, thus giving us more ground clearance something that we will all appreciate.

Thanks!

 

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metallic97gxe: Thanks, and your side skirts should be delivered tomorrow!








cool man I'm ready to put them on and I will post pics...did you get my PM?

 

If you're going to end up paying for a repair, why not buy a urethane for more $$ up front, and not have to worry about repairs?? Makes sense...

Not to mention the fact that the Stillen looks much better...

 

very true I'm just defending Ionic his kit is fiberglass like Sarona and the Skyline kit for less money in a lip piece...and we have not heard any "BAD Ionic kit" posts like the Skyline and Sarona...

 

Understandable

 

I like it

 

Got your 2 PM and emails. I will get back to you in a bit.

 

Swafford98: Lets see here. If you hit a Stillen front lip hard aren't you going to have to repaint it? It's the same here, if you hit my front lip hard it's going to scrape and you are going to have to repair it. By the way fiberglass is not cheap it has alot of labor involved, way more than Urethane kits have, that's what the big companies love about urethane kits not having to pay labor costs. Stillens cost for each urethane piece should be less than 10 dollars, so please tell me what the cheap piece is. What is expensive are the molds and machinery to be able to make them, after that the money keeps rolling in.

On another note fiberglass is cheap to repair, and would not cost as much as the original purchase price to have it repaired.

Oh and one last thing, I don't sacrifice quality for a profit, so my fiberglass products are well made and don't crack easily. You might be able to chip or even crack the gel coat but not the fiberglass underneath.

araffio: When I call Stillen's sales reps what extension do I dial to get a hold of you? I might be interested in buying a "Stillen" kit.

metallic97gxe: I'm going to check it right now

1MAX2NV: Thanks!

 

someone please do some crashtesting of a urethane kit and fiberglass kit please. i've seen the results of the two in similar accidents. i'll gladly pay extra for a urethane kit anyday...

 

I appreciate your respones, and would like to see pics of the lip with the vents...also do you think it would be possible to coat the inside of the lip with a urethane/rubberish type agent...and would that even help eleviate this fiberglass cracking issue at hand, I would say that is my biggest issue...seen some cracked kits in person...reason I bring this up, but it is clean looking, oh..and with the snow in the NE I don't want that bish to become a plow...you feel me?

 

Please reread that and think about the difference between cars, planes and boats please....

 

what happens when a boat hits a rock?

these cars are probably going to be lowered and a hit going off/on driveway might scrape them.

not saying that i'll crack the fiberglass...but overall the urethane is more flexible compared to fiberglass. both have it's pros and cons.

even u said it..if u hit a urethane piece you'll need to repaint it due to spyder cracks. if u hit a fiberglass piece you're going to need to fix the broken piece and then repaint it.

IMO it looks pretty good...i'm sure the added vents would look better. just trying to express some of the member's concern on this.

 

I understand your concern, I'm just trying to make my self clear that GOOD fiberglass does NOT break easily!

And I did not say that it would be "broken" I said it would scraped.

You can ask other org members about the durability of my kits and you will see that they can take good hits with no breaking.

 

OK maybe they're durable fiberglass, but they don't look good




PS- I have nothing to do with Stillen, just expressing my opinion on kits, which is what you asked for

 

Looks good! Those vents should add a little more style, but overall I think it looks very good.

As for the fiberglass vs. urethane bit... of course everyone would rather have urethane, but it's pretty clear that only a big company can afford the upfront costs of urethane molds. So that leaves us with fiberglass.

I can testify to the quality of the fiberglass used for my Ionic sides and rear. I have hit several different things with the rear pieces on several occasions, including a curb, a small hill and someone's rock-wall landscaping. On that last one I was damn near sure I broke something off because it sounded like hell, but everything was a-ok.

 

i love that lip, now we just need some for us 5th geners

 

I like the lip design. It definately needs some 'finishing' touches like contouring around the wheel well and maybe some "speed holes" (obscure Simpsons reference of the day) to give it some character. The price is right, and I don't plan to scrape my lip anyway so the fiberglass vs. urethane argument is moot.

-Ace-

 

I think the design is definitely going in the right direction. I'm fine with fiberglass at that price, especially if it is a durable, quality product. Are you planning to make another test lip with the variations you mentioned in the near future? Finally, what time frame are we looking at before we're able to buy the full kit
-hype

 

DO NOT ADD VENTS. Please keep it the way it is. It looks more JDM like right now. Adding vents will make it look like american designed front lip. ie. Wings West, VIS.

 

very,very ture or make two designs one w/vents and one w/out...vents I like the design now the way it is...clean and simple...