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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 06:31 PM
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How had is it hitting your pocket?

I stopped today to get gas and thought I was gonna die.I paid $29.25 to fill up,but I was on empty...I put in 18.17 gallons..I don't even know how manys gallons my tank holds...How do I compare to you guys or girls...I live in Tn..and I paid $1.60 a gallon for 93 octane...97se auto.....
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Last fill-up was about $30. It is what it is.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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$36 for the gas guzzling V8 today
$32 bucks for the Maxima yesterday

91 Premium @ around 2.25 a gallon in San Diego CA... you guys have it easy!!!
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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$20 brought me up to a little over 3/4 mark....this was on like no gas..my car died twice when going around curves cuz of it
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 07:37 PM
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$20 brought me up to a little over 3/4 mark....this was on like no gas..my car died twice when going around curves cuz of it
$15 to fill up my rental and it was on E and I put in 87 octane...hehe...different story once the Max is back, I will be at the $30 mark.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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I'm trying to limit how many times I do a fill-up. Now a days I just fill up when I'm ready to go long distance.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Re: How had is it hitting your pocket?

Originally posted by jugmax
I put in 18.17 gallons..I don't even know how manys gallons my tank holds...
WOW. That is really dipping low into the E mark. The tank holds 18.5gal I believe. I usually fill about 15gal when it is near the first tick above E. Last weekend was even worse that it was today so I'm not sweating it right now.

People are saying we are going to war Mid march so everyone better fill up before then!
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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The proposed war with Iraq is doing wonderful things for our country. Not only is it turning the whole world against us, but its also jacking up the gas prices to astronomical amounts. Go Bush!
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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it's 2.24 for premium here at one station in NYC, but i get me gas in jersey where premium is like 1.79
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by spiff56747
The proposed war with Iraq is doing wonderful things for our country. Not only is it turning the whole world against us, but its also jacking up the gas prices to astronomical amounts. Go Bush!
That is a very ignorant comment.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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Actually in Dallas, I'm only paying like a dollar or two more per fillup.
Usually 20 bucks to fill up, but these days like 22 or 21
No complaints here.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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1.63 a gallon for 92 octane. Go Iowa
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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1.95-2.10 $ / gal for 93 in NYC

it sucks

i typically go through a tank and a half each week

i am considering downgrading to 89
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD


That is a very ignorant comment.
yes it is , the war with iraq has only a little to do with our gas situation, actually there are two other countries fighting a war now where we get our oil from.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 01:30 AM
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I filled up the other day to 30 dollars a pop. This sucks.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 01:31 AM
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And besides... I'll pay higher gas prices for the rest of my life if it means that our nation will go down in history as one of the few that was willing to help rid the world of idiots like Hussein and bin Laden.

Anyway, check out that hydrogen fuel cell vehicle that GM produced recently. That's what'll be powering our cars in the not-too-distant future.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 03:15 AM
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Re: How had is it hitting your pocket?

Originally posted by jugmax
I stopped today to get gas and thought I was gonna die.I paid $29.25 to fill up,but I was on empty...I put in 18.17 gallons..I don't even know how manys gallons my tank holds...How do I compare to you guys or girls...I live in Tn..and I paid $1.60 a gallon for 93 octane...97se auto.....
I don't think Americans are willing to give up their driving freedom just because they're getting gouged 16% in 2 weeks. What they do say is $2/gallon is a mental number where motorists think twice. But at prices up to $1.80 people still pump away like there's no tomorrow, they still buy GX470's, Hemis, opt for Excursions, M55's, etc. As long as they do that, gasoline retailers will be happy like pigs in ****. Those people are sending their kids to Ivy League schools thanks to the good motorists.

btw you cut it close, you had less than 1/2 gal left in the tank. That's not good for your fuel system.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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Times like this is when these hybrid car owners have a on their faces. And for those who are contemplating down grading to regular from premium "Me, myself, and I" have come to the conclusion that it's not worth it, but of course your wallet may differ. The price difference between regular and premium is about $3.00 +/- on a complete fill-up. I can figure out others ways on saving $3.00 in my daily routines instead on down grading. Also do others find it more beneficial (MPG) to do complete fill-up in between empty tanks instead of $5, $7, $10 here and there, I do.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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$1.56 for 93 octane in Atlanta.


I alternate half tanks of premium (93 octane) and mid grade (89 octane)
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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have you seen this email:

>****** Where to buy gas
>
>The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor.
An
>interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up
the
>car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi
Arabia.
>Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the
Saudis.
>
>Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I
fill-up the
>tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
>family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to
know
>which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major
companies
>import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):
>
> Shell.........................205,742,000 barrels
> Chevron/Texaco.........144,332,000 barrels
> Exxon /Mobil..............130,082,000 barrels
>
> Marathon/Speedway...117,740,000 barrels
> Amoco......................62,231,000 barrels
>
>If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
>BILLION!
>
>Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
>
> Citgo....................0 barrels
> Sunoco............. ..0 barrels
> Conoco............. ..0 barrels
> Sinclair............... 0 barrels
> BP/Phillips.......... 0 barrels
> Hess...................0 barrels
>
>All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
>each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they
are
>importing.
>
>They report on a monthly basis. Keep this list in your car;
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by NickStam
have you seen this email:

****** Where to buy gas

The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor.
An
interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up
the
car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi
Arabia.
Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the
Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I
fill-up the
tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to
know
which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major
companies
import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):
Last I checked, Saudi Arabia was a US ally lending the US their bases during the Gulf War to fight Irak and again now to prepare for yet another war. Saudi Arabia isn't trying to kill you, fanatic terrorists are. Nice generalization.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by LeonBlackMax


yes it is , the war with iraq has only a little to do with our gas situation, actually there are two other countries fighting a war now where we get our oil from.
And they are?
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by NickStam
have you seen this email:

>****** Where to buy gas
>
>The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor.
An
>interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up
the
>car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi
Arabia.
>Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the
Saudis.
>
>Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I
fill-up the
>tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
>family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to


know
>which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major
companies
>import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):
>
> Shell.........................205,742,000 barrels
> Chevron/Texaco.........144,332,000 barrels
> Exxon /Mobil..............130,082,000 barrels
>
> Marathon/Speedway...117,740,000 barrels
> Amoco......................62,231,000 barrels
>
>If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
>BILLION!
>
>Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
>
> Citgo....................0 barrels
> Sunoco............. ..0 barrels
> Conoco............. ..0 barrels
> Sinclair............... 0 barrels
> BP/Phillips.......... 0 barrels
> Hess...................0 barrels
>
>All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
>each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they
are
>importing.
>
>They report on a monthly basis. Keep this list in your car;


We don't have to oil dependent on the middle East. We have huge untapped oil resources in Alaska and off the Florida cost. Thank democrates and the Environmentalist wacos for keeping us oil dependent. We have very safe ways of recovering oil these days which have very little environmental impact. What is bad for the environment is having the huge oil tankers crossing the Ocean from the Middle east risking an oil spill.
Think of all the American jobs lost by not using our own oil.

President Bush is the last person to blame for our oil prices.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
We have huge untapped oil resources in Alaska and off the Florida cost.
The potential oil reserves in Alaska and Florida are not so huge... they would make up only a small percentage of oil consumption in America. There is no possible way domestic oil production can come close to meeting consumption. The truth of the matter is that unless alternative energy sources are utilized and/or oil consumption lowers dramatically, we will be dependant on OPEC and independant oil-producing nations for the forseeable future. Were OPEC a corporation, they'd be blatantly guilty of monopoly power, price-fixing, etc...
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Mishmosh


The potential oil reserves in Alaska and Florida are not so huge... they would make up only a small percentage of oil consumption in America. There is no possible way domestic oil production can come close to meeting consumption. The truth of the matter is that unless alternative energy sources are utilized and/or oil consumption lowers dramatically, we will be dependant on OPEC and independant oil-producing nations for the forseeable future. Were OPEC a corporation, they'd be blatantly guilty of monopoly power, price-fixing, etc...
It depends on where you get your info. Lobbyist groups like Sierra club would like us to believe that there is only enough oil to fill up a lawn mower, others say that it is the largest untapped oil reserve in the world. I believe there is more there then we think. The thing is that we don't really know for sure untill we drill.

Our Nations anit-trust laws would have no effect on OPEC, even if they were a corporation.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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The current reserves are expected to run out within the next 50 years. I've actually seen estimates anywhere from 10-50 years.. There are resources that have not been touched yet, in Alaska and such but the cost of extracting them is very high, plus environmentalists won't let that happen..

I don't know how much these war talks are effecting oil prices, I'm sure they have some effect, yet I think the crazy cold winter has something to do with it as well.

Gas prices are typically higher in the summer though (?). So they may be shooting up more..


I remember reading that oil production is expected to hit it's peak in the next 5-10 years, then it's going to slow down or stay at a steady level so they can maximize the use of what we have so far. I also read about EPA imposing some kind of restriction to the automotive industry by 2008.. that all vehicles made and sold in U.S. after that year would have to be getting at least 25 mpg or something like that. I'm not sure about this, but I do remember reading something about it.
Technology is out there though.. just right now, manufacturers don't want to bother with it, because as long as people continue buying gas guzzling SUVs, they don't care because they still sell cars regardless of gas prices. Chevy Corvette is getting like 20-28 mpg if I am not mistaken.. not bad for a V8.

I think every manufacturer will have a hybrid within the next 5 years. And gas prices have no where to go but up...
enjoy it while you can.. soon we'll all be driving Honda Insights
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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2 bucks a Gallon over here in Florida theres still a lot of places that are like 1.85 but there going up fast.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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About $1.48 for 93 at BP. I live 15 minutes north of Atlanta.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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$2.23 Chevron Supreme here in alameda,ca
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by GaMax97GLE
About $1.48 for 93 at BP. I live 15 minutes north of Atlanta.
thats cheap.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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When I filled up on Thursday I was on E with about 32 miles til empty according to the dte function. I believe I paid $26.50 and that was with 93 from BP.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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Okay, here's my worthless opinion.

Please read:
First off, there is still a MASSIVE amount of untapped oil reserves in this world. Estimates range from 200-400+years. Oil exploration has revealed that there are large reserves locked 1000'-3000' below current reserves. Getting there will be the problem, but if the demand is there, the technology will be developed. How do I know this? I work closely with oil companies. They're not worried.


Second, the fuel price hikes bother me because of the BS reasoning, however the overall price doesn't bother me. Why? Because I am so damn sick and tired of the SUV craze. It's the most rediculous thing occuring in this country and I honestly believe that SUV/truck ownership does indeed support our need for middle-eastern oil. I'll be damn glad when gas prices skyrocket to the point where people realize it's just too expensive to drive their yuppie station wagon. I'll be laughing. IMO, it wouldn't bother me to pay a large tax that pushed gas to $2.50 a gallon AS LONG as much of the tax was going to things like better schools, roads, low emission and low fuel technology.


The price of gas in this country has made us the big fat obese country of the world. Our gas is dirt cheap compared to other parts of the world. Why should we be any different. The amount of energy this country consumes is mind boggling. It also bothering me that we force other countries to be "clean" with there resources and the conserve, but when environmental councils of the world get together, we don't sign anything because we would all have to change our lifestyle which means getting rid of the SUVs and driving MUCH smaller cars. In Europe, a Maxima is a HUGE car.


Price of 91-92 in Kansas City is around $1.90. I end up paying an extra $1.80. Big deal.


Dave
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
We have huge untapped oil resources in Alaska and off the Florida cost
...but they won't be tapped in Florida, at least for a while. Thanks to our "in" with the White House, proposals to drill off the coast have been defeated over and over.
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
Okay, here's my worthless opinion.

Please read:
First off, there is still a MASSIVE amount of untapped oil reserves in this world. Estimates range from 200-400+years. Oil exploration has revealed that there are large reserves locked 1000'-3000' below current reserves. Getting there will be the problem, but if the demand is there, the technology will be developed. How do I know this? I work closely with oil companies. They're not worried.


Second, the fuel price hikes bother me because of the BS reasoning, however the overall price doesn't bother me. Why? Because I am so damn sick and tired of the SUV craze. It's the most rediculous thing occuring in this country and I honestly believe that SUV/truck ownership does indeed support our need for middle-eastern oil. I'll be damn glad when gas prices skyrocket to the point where people realize it's just too expensive to drive their yuppie station wagon. I'll be laughing. IMO, it wouldn't bother me to pay a large tax that pushed gas to $2.50 a gallon AS LONG as much of the tax was going to things like better schools, roads, low emission and low fuel technology.


The price of gas in this country has made us the big fat obese country of the world. Our gas is dirt cheap compared to other parts of the world. Why should we be any different. The amount of energy this country consumes is mind boggling. It also bothering me that we force other countries to be "clean" with there resources and the conserve, but when environmental councils of the world get together, we don't sign anything because we would all have to change our lifestyle which means getting rid of the SUVs and driving MUCH smaller cars. In Europe, a Maxima is a HUGE car.


Price of 91-92 in Kansas City is around $1.90. I end up paying an extra $1.80. Big deal.


Dave
A lot of us try to do the right thing, but the American society makes it hard. I car-pooled, until I realized I was the only one who ever got us to work on-time. I recycle, but end up taking the stuff to the township because they tell us to only recycle clear glass, throw the other stuff away. If I take it in person I can recycle green and brown. I didn't buy from a pet store, I adopted a purebred from the SPCA. I've used SEPTA, even though it costs more than driving. It's a mentality. Spend some serious time in Europe, not just your 2-wk Orbitz getaway, and you'll realize how much we consume relative to others.

It's so amazing that many Americans do not even realize that gasoline is an end-product. It's been refined. There is NO direct correlation between the price of crude oil and gasoline. Yet when people get gouged 16% in 2 weeks their attitude is big deal. Why? Because they can still afford it. But that's ok--I've got some oil drillers in my portfolio, one which was even a spin-off. I don't have a problem with making money.
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 07:35 AM
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if you guys went anywhere in Europe, Asia, and even some Latin American countries you'll find that we don't have it as bad as they do over there. people pay upwards of 4 dollars a gallon to feed their driving passion, and have been doing so for a long time.
My sister lives in italy, home of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maseratti, and Ducati to name a few. where people love their cars more than they do their mothers, and they pay up the ying ying for gas.. and they get by. they walk more or use Vespas, they use their cars when they need to.
The price increase we're seeing in America is due to the political crisis that is happening in Venezuela which was the 3rd crude exporter to USA. the petroleum industry there went from 3 million barrels a day down to 125 thousand.. that's not even enough to feed their own consumption needs. nevermind the president there is a left wing Hussein loving anti-American. So, who knows how long we'll be in business with them. Saudi Arabia was supposed to increase their production to fill in the vaccumm caused by Venezuela's crisis. So they are not trying to kill us.. they just want our $$$. the terrorists there are like the KKK, or Arian organizations here.. just a few morons with evil minds.
This whole war thing is very simple.. Arabs see it as a jihad, a religious cause, we see it as control of oil around the world.
Did you guys know that Turkey is pulling out of the deal we had with them to use their bases and airspace in exchange of a 30 BILLION dollar aid package?.. i mean, that's a lot of mods right there.. now we have the Turks turning their backs on us, along with the French and the Germans.. who's next?..
This war is going to make things worse than they are. higher gas prices, more terrorist acts against us, more bombing over there and loss of innocent lives, and Bush i just praying that the war will boost the market up.
IMO, if the price of peace means higher gas prices, then, so be it.
i hope this made sense.
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
Okay, here's my worthless opinion.


Second, the fuel price hikes bother me because of the BS reasoning, however the overall price doesn't bother me. Why? Because I am so damn sick and tired of the SUV craze. It's the most rediculous thing occuring in this country and I honestly believe that SUV/truck ownership does indeed support our need for middle-eastern oil. I'll be damn glad when gas prices skyrocket to the point where people realize it's just too expensive to drive their yuppie station wagon. I'll be laughing. IMO, it wouldn't bother me to pay a large tax that pushed gas to $2.50 a gallon AS LONG as much of the tax was going to things like better schools, roads, low emission and low fuel technology.


The price of gas in this country has made us the big fat obese country of the world. Our gas is dirt cheap compared to other parts of the world. Why should we be any different. The amount of energy this country consumes is mind boggling. It also bothering me that we force other countries to be "clean" with there resources and the conserve, but when environmental councils of the world get together, we don't sign anything because we would all have to change our lifestyle which means getting rid of the SUVs and driving MUCH smaller cars. In Europe, a Maxima is a HUGE car.


Price of 91-92 in Kansas City is around $1.90. I end up paying an extra $1.80. Big deal.


Dave
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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Unless the gas prices went up since the last time I got gas, it's only about $1.50 for Premium fuel here in Hamilton, NJ. I rarely pay over $20 to fill the tank, but I usually fill up at the 1/4 mark.

-Nick
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
Okay, here's my worthless opinion.

Please read:
First off, there is still a MASSIVE amount of untapped oil reserves in this world. Estimates range from 200-400+years. Oil exploration has revealed that there are large reserves locked 1000'-3000' below current reserves. Getting there will be the problem, but if the demand is there, the technology will be developed. How do I know this? I work closely with oil companies. They're not worried.


Second, the fuel price hikes bother me because of the BS reasoning, however the overall price doesn't bother me. Why? Because I am so damn sick and tired of the SUV craze. It's the most rediculous thing occuring in this country and I honestly believe that SUV/truck ownership does indeed support our need for middle-eastern oil. I'll be damn glad when gas prices skyrocket to the point where people realize it's just too expensive to drive their yuppie station wagon. I'll be laughing. IMO, it wouldn't bother me to pay a large tax that pushed gas to $2.50 a gallon AS LONG as much of the tax was going to things like better schools, roads, low emission and low fuel technology.


The price of gas in this country has made us the big fat obese country of the world. Our gas is dirt cheap compared to other parts of the world. Why should we be any different. The amount of energy this country consumes is mind boggling. It also bothering me that we force other countries to be "clean" with there resources and the conserve, but when environmental councils of the world get together, we don't sign anything because we would all have to change our lifestyle which means getting rid of the SUVs and driving MUCH smaller cars. In Europe, a Maxima is a HUGE car.


Price of 91-92 in Kansas City is around $1.90. I end up paying an extra $1.80. Big deal.


Dave
This is killing me. I'm driving my 88 Chevy K1500 while installing my turbo. I don't think I get much more than about 8 to 10 around the city so I have to fill up the 30 gallon tank every two weeks. Gas prices in Tucson have been about 1.45 to 1.55 for regular and it definitely stings. Thankfully, the truck now usually only sees about 2K miles per year for hauling stuff, fishing trips, dog to the vet, Home Depot etc. (can I get an exception for such low mileage Dave B?)

Why in the world my buddy is buying a Yukon Denali XL (or something like that) with the HUUUUUGE engine is beyond me. It's him, his wife and their 1 kid. I agree that they are a problem. Urban sprawl contributes to the car culture as well.

I'm with Dave on the fuel tax idea but the bureaucracy put in place to make use of the money would probably eat up nearly 1/2 of it or divert it to unintended targets (PORK).

Make it $4 gallon and I'll find a way to telecommute more frequently, have a more efficient around town vehicle and so on.
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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Our tanks DO hold 18.5 gallons.



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