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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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got to the track with the JWT ECU & MEVI

previous best with just Intake, Y-Pipe, UDP was 14.547. since i have added the JWT ECU and MEVI for those who have been following. i made it to MIR in southern maryland today, which is a very nice track and will be holding national events in the near future. the temps were HOT for the kind of weather we have been getting in the DC area. it was 65 and VERY sunny. i would have liked to have the temps in the 40's but you take what you are dealt. and i got to the track just a hair too late to see mardigras run his 12.222. none the less here is my best time....

60' - 2.206
330 - 6.082
1/8 - 9.251
MPH - 77.11
1/4 - 14.302
MPH - 97.99

oh so close to 14.2's and 98mph traps! that was my only 14.3, all the other runs were low 14.4's. mods on the car are...

Self-Made Midpipe / JWT Popcharger
Warpspeed Aluminized Y-Pipe
UR UDP
JWT ECU
MEVI
STS

i guess this was the first test for the JWT ECU/MEVI. in all honesty i would have loved to come home with a 13 second pass, but on street tires, FULL leather and powered interior, and laboring stock clutch i will take these times any day of the week. thanks for reading.

--Paul
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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awesome runs Paul! lets hope for even better weather next week. were you running on the sawblades? or the 17" SE wheels?
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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most def impressive .. i read your statment about the interior and slicks i concur..

.. but the trend seems to be at least slicks.

do you think you'll gain anything from an exhaust? i do.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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very nice!
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Very impressive!
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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Congrats on those times, but is it worth .2-.3 and 2mph for $1100+ dollars? Not bashing you at all, just wondering. I guess you could take the 60 foot and weather into consideration too, but still...
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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Yes it is very worth it. In good weather the car would dip into the 13s with a sub 2.1 60'. I've personnaly seen SC maxima's run that ET/trap and slower .

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Congrats on those times, but is it worth .2-.3 and 2mph for $1100+ dollars? Not bashing you at all, just wondering. I guess you could take the 60 foot and weather into consideration too, but still...
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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With slicks he could do 13's for sure!
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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Congrats on those times, but is it worth .2-.3 and 2mph for $1100+ dollars? Not bashing you at all, just wondering. I guess you could take the 60 foot and weather into consideration too, but still...
The VI is not used to its potential in the 1/4 mile.

Basically, the VI is useless in 1st and 2nd gear. You are in the proper RPM band for the VI for probably a total of 1.5 seconds in in 1st and 2nd gear with the VI. You get to 3rd gear and it's lights out for any non VI equipped 4th gen. Look at his 1/8th to 1/4 mile trap differential. He's gaining 21mph in the last 1/8th mile, that's alot. A typical bolt on 4th gen gains about 18-19mph in the last 1/8th mile. 2-3mph may not seem like much of a difference but it is. It's along the lines of a supercharger as far as cost effectiveness goes. SC = 4x as much, and you gain about 3-4 times as as much. On the order of .8 seconds and 6-7mph.


BTW notice he's trapping almost as high as my highest trap speed ever with full interior and a much heavier set of wheels. I have a hunch my car probably weighs about 200lbs less than his does in race trim. His car is putting down alot of power and making good use of it on the big end of the track.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Maybe he could just buy some street legal slicks they are alot cheaper, and can be changed for the street easier.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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Good times man! I'm sure you can see faster!
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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Damn nice Paul.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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i love your dyno numbers
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Yes VI is very worth it. Quarter mile tracks dont really tell the whole story. I wish there were 3/8 mile tracks.
You only go up to around 95mph(if that) for most cars on 1/4 mile tracks. If you were street racing on highways at 2am and routinely go up to 115mph and plus like I do, a MEVI maxima will just kill non-MEVI maximas.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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very nice times. i think you should get a full catback and then maybe that will get you into a 14.2 seeing that is only going to get warmer from here on out.

so with all this mevi praise i suppose i should order one real soon huh?
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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Nice

It must feel a bit weird to shift deep into the red zone on the tach at 7000 rpms. Gotta love it, though

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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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I doubt he'll get a catback. well, thats what I'm guessing from talking to him. He likes the sleeper look. and IMO a big shiney chrome tip out the back doesn't help. I feel the same way. I would get a hi-flow cat, a B-pipe, and possibly a 5th gen muffler. but hey thats just me.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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i can't wait to get a perfect run next time i'm at the track hehe!! in my opinion you can still have an aftermarket exhaust and have the sleeper look. you just have to select the proper muffler/tip combo. that trap speed is phenominal. 98mph was my personal best. my fastest runs have relied on good 60' times and perfect shifting rather than making it further down the track with extra power. when i ran a 14.1 i ran out of gas (fuel cutoff) and i basically coasted through the finish line. imagine if i had full power in 4th gear!
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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Great times Paul, congrats!
Old Mar 9, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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thanks guys for all the kind words. i think there is some room for improvement on these times...my launch wasnt perfect, and the weather was unseasonably hot. we will have some colder weather again for sure.

another note is that my first run i had the VI set to 5300 and ran 14.408. it was "test and tune" so i turned the VI to 5100 and dropped some tire pressure to launch a little bit hotter and ran that 14.302. also with the ECU i dont make it to 4th gear anymore. i used to shift into 4th near the end of the run, but now i am pulling hard across the line in 3rd at roughly 6500 rpm.

i do plan on adding a B-Pipe. that is about the extent of the exhaust work i want to do. as some of you may know i AM into the sleeper look. which also includes sound. i dont want loud and drone at all, so i will stick with just the B-Pipe and see what that yields.

with slicks and removed interior there is a VERY good chance i can hit 13's, but i want to give it my best on street tires and full interior first. if i see that it may not be possible, then i might cross that line and throw the stickies on Thanks again.

--Paul
Old Mar 9, 2003 | 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by Requin6


another note is that my first run i had the VI set to 5300 and ran 14.408. it was "test and tune" so i turned the VI to 5100 and dropped some tire pressure to launch a little bit hotter and ran that 14.302. also with the ECU i dont make it to 4th gear anymore. i used to shift into 4th near the end of the run, but now i am pulling hard across the line in 3rd at roughly 6500 rpm.


--Paul
HOT!!!!!! Jeez, running in August with 80% humidity and 80 degrees at night is hot. What we had yesterday wasn't to bad.

I have also noticed that I run quicker with my VI set at 5100 as opposed to 5300 or 5400 rpm. I know others have mentioned a higher rpm engagement point has given them a faster et. Maybe it has something to do with our track altitude??

Oh yeah, NICE times!
Old Mar 9, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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HOT!!!!!! Jeez, running in August with 80% humidity and 80 degrees at night is hot. What we had yesterday wasn't to bad.

I have also noticed that I run quicker with my VI set at 5100 as opposed to 5300 or 5400 rpm. I know others have mentioned a higher rpm engagement point has given them a faster et. Maybe it has something to do with our track altitude??

Oh yeah, NICE times!
you will definately get 13's with slicks. you might even be able to run 13's without them. that's my goal. you might as well give in and go the full catback. why spend all that money on a freeflow exhaust just to bottleneck it with a very restrictive muffler? buy the longest free flow perforated core muffler you can find along with a long resonator in the bpipe. the longer the muffler the quieter it will be. best of all, it won't be anymore restrictive than a straight pipe.
Old Mar 9, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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very nice numbers . Hope to see you at the meet in april maybe we can have a run
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I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Borla yet

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Originally posted by VQdriver
you will definately get 13's with slicks. you might even be able to run 13's without them. that's my goal. you might as well give in and go the full catback. why spend all that money on a freeflow exhaust just to bottleneck it with a very restrictive muffler? buy the longest free flow perforated core muffler you can find along with a long resonator in the bpipe. the longer the muffler the quieter it will be. best of all, it won't be anymore restrictive than a straight pipe.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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What were the differences between your previous best and your new time? As in a comparison of the time slips and wheather. Are you taking it to redline at every shift?

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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Borla yet

DW

borla doesn't send me a check to say stuff about em but i recommend the pro XL muffler or a comparable magnaflow. i've heard some good things about them as well.
Old Mar 10, 2003 | 07:14 AM
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Paul-

Were your runs on 15" rims or your 17" rims. If you ran a 14.3@98mph on the 17s, then I'm REALLY impressed. 14.3@98mph is very impressive seeing that you ran your car fully "dressed". I'm eagerly awaiting my ECU. I'll have to wait to hit the track until early April though because my track is getting resurfaced I'd really like to see a 14.2-14.3@98-99mph.


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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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Paul-

Were your runs on 15" rims or your 17" rims. If you ran a 14.3@98mph on the 17s, then I'm REALLY impressed. 14.3@98mph is very impressive seeing that you ran your car fully "dressed". I'm eagerly awaiting my ECU. I'll have to wait to hit the track until early April though because my track is getting resurfaced I'd really like to see a 14.2-14.3@98-99mph.


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I imagine that Paul was using the 5th gen 17's. I think that he wanted to see what his car was capable of when it is 'fully dressed' I believe that his sawblades have snow tires on them, but I could be wrong. In any case, nice work Paul!
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Originally posted by VQdriver
borla doesn't send me a check to say stuff about em but i recommend the pro XL muffler or a comparable magnaflow. i've heard some good things about them as well.
I love my borla pro/xs (decided on it after reading many of your posts )


very impressive times!
Old Mar 10, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
Paul-

Were your runs on 15" rims or your 17" rims. If you ran a 14.3@98mph on the 17s, then I'm REALLY impressed. 14.3@98mph is very impressive seeing that you ran your car fully "dressed". I'm eagerly awaiting my ECU. I'll have to wait to hit the track until early April though because my track is getting resurfaced I'd really like to see a 14.2-14.3@98-99mph.


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Dave-

I ran on the 15's...so i wasnt FULLY dressed they have some bridgestone all-season blah blah blahs on them. those 17's are just too much for the track. I am sure you can pull a low 14 second pass with how strong your car is. that wait from JWT must be killing you guys. i am going to go to the track again in the next week or two to try some different things out, and see if i can bring home an even lower time.

--Paul
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