What mods do people NOT care to talk about anymore?
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From: FV, NC
What mods do people NOT care to talk about anymore?
Many mods have been done and some have been talked about to death. What mods have we forgotten about and why?
Originally posted by ejj
Sure it does. Doesn't do a lot, and it's not worth the money (unless its close to free like mine was), but it does work.
Sure it does. Doesn't do a lot, and it's not worth the money (unless its close to free like mine was), but it does work.
the rear end of our maxima's have a solid rear beam, which means that their is less movement between the rear shocks than their is for the front struts. The rear is already solid as we know it doesn't need alignment.
I thought about this for a while and then i sold my RSTB, and i still havn't noticed any difference since selling it.
Originally posted by SprintMax
i beg to differ..
the rear end of our maxima's have a solid rear beam, which means that their is less movement between the rear shocks than their is for the front struts. The rear is already solid as we know it doesn't need alignment.
I thought about this for a while and then i sold my RSTB, and i still havn't noticed any difference since selling it.
i beg to differ..
the rear end of our maxima's have a solid rear beam, which means that their is less movement between the rear shocks than their is for the front struts. The rear is already solid as we know it doesn't need alignment.
I thought about this for a while and then i sold my RSTB, and i still havn't noticed any difference since selling it.
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Originally posted by SprintMax
the rear end of our maxima's have a solid rear beam
the rear end of our maxima's have a solid rear beam
Originally posted by deezo
I never cared to talk about the RSB for this reason also. The purpose of the RSB is to keep the inside and outside tires planted through turns. My conclusion to stop body roll is added a stiffer suspension up front and in the rear. Using the RSB in the rear after a drop is useless and only takes up space.
I never cared to talk about the RSB for this reason also. The purpose of the RSB is to keep the inside and outside tires planted through turns. My conclusion to stop body roll is added a stiffer suspension up front and in the rear. Using the RSB in the rear after a drop is useless and only takes up space.
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Originally posted by SprintMax
see RSB is different.. you can adjust your RSB.. i noticed a huge difference with my RSB.. its the RSTB that i rendered useless
see RSB is different.. you can adjust your RSB.. i noticed a huge difference with my RSB.. its the RSTB that i rendered useless
on the theory of why it shouldn't work.
Originally posted by SprintMax
see RSB is different.. you can adjust your RSB.. i noticed a huge difference with my RSB.. its the RSTB that i rendered useless
see RSB is different.. you can adjust your RSB.. i noticed a huge difference with my RSB.. its the RSTB that i rendered useless
What is the difference between an RSB and RSTB? Is the RSB mounted lower inbetween the struts, where as the RSTB is mounted to the top of the struts somehow? Pardon my foolishness.
Originally posted by Stephen Max
I have to agree about the RSB. I noticed a significant decrease in understeer during hard cornering with the RSB. It took a little getting used to, I kept thinking the rear end was about to swing out.
I have to agree about the RSB. I noticed a significant decrease in understeer during hard cornering with the RSB. It took a little getting used to, I kept thinking the rear end was about to swing out.
Originally posted by kingrukus
What is the difference between an RSB and RSTB? Is the RSB mounted lower inbetween the struts, where as the RSTB is mounted to the top of the struts somehow? Pardon my foolishness.
What is the difference between an RSB and RSTB? Is the RSB mounted lower inbetween the struts, where as the RSTB is mounted to the top of the struts somehow? Pardon my foolishness.
RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace. Similar to the FSTB (Front) Mounts to the top of the struts inside the trunk. Minimal if any effect.
Safe, makes sense.
Originally posted by tomj
RSB = Rear Sway Bar. Mounts underneath the car to the axle and control arms(?)
RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace. Similar to the FSTB (Front) Mounts to the top of the struts inside the trunk. Minimal if any effect.
RSB = Rear Sway Bar. Mounts underneath the car to the axle and control arms(?)
RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace. Similar to the FSTB (Front) Mounts to the top of the struts inside the trunk. Minimal if any effect.
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Originally posted by look2me40
For the love of God please stop the 'I got my first mod....CLEAR CORNERS' posts.
For the love of God please stop the 'I got my first mod....CLEAR CORNERS' posts.
I'm of the belief that the RSB does very little once you lower the car 1.5". I had a RSB with my ST and Intrax springs. I took it off one night and drove around for one month and noticed that:
1) The suspension didn't seem so bound up
2) The ride was better because 16lbs of unsprung weight was removed.
3) Much of the rocking going over bumpy surfaces was reduced
4) The car was far more controllable in tight turns.
Remember that Motor Trend got better handling numbers out of the SMX Maxima WITHOUT the RSB.
Once you've lowered the center of gravity, the RSB's characteristics are reduced.
A mod no one really talks about anymore is the Poormans/OSCAI setup. I still think this is a great setup and my dynos showed there really is no difference between the Poorman's CAI and a hybrid intake. I'm currently running the Poorman's CAI setup along with a "hacked" airbox. I love the sound and power.
Dave
1) The suspension didn't seem so bound up
2) The ride was better because 16lbs of unsprung weight was removed.
3) Much of the rocking going over bumpy surfaces was reduced
4) The car was far more controllable in tight turns.
Remember that Motor Trend got better handling numbers out of the SMX Maxima WITHOUT the RSB.
Once you've lowered the center of gravity, the RSB's characteristics are reduced.
A mod no one really talks about anymore is the Poormans/OSCAI setup. I still think this is a great setup and my dynos showed there really is no difference between the Poorman's CAI and a hybrid intake. I'm currently running the Poorman's CAI setup along with a "hacked" airbox. I love the sound and power.
Dave
Originally posted by deezo
What's funny is when I was new here people begged me to get clear corners.
What's funny is when I was new here people begged me to get clear corners.
I mean, it is a nice thing to have...but to come out here and say 'Wow, look at me, my clear corners are MONEY' is what I am talking about. As far as the strut bars go, they are a cosmetic mod once you lower the car. It sure looks nice in my engine bay
Originally posted by Dave B
I'm of the belief that the RSB does very little once you lower the car 1.5". I had a RSB with my ST and Intrax springs. I took it off one night and drove around for one month and noticed that:
1) The suspension didn't seem so bound up
2) The ride was better because 16lbs of unsprung weight was removed.
3) Much of the rocking going over bumpy surfaces was reduced
4) The car was far more controllable in tight turns.
Remember that Motor Trend got better handling numbers out of the SMX Maxima WITHOUT the RSB.
Once you've lowered the center of gravity, the RSB's characteristics are reduced.
A mod no one really talks about anymore is the Poormans/OSCAI setup. I still think this is a great setup and my dynos showed there really is no difference between the Poorman's CAI and a hybrid intake. I'm currently running the Poorman's CAI setup along with a "hacked" airbox. I love the sound and power.
Dave
I'm of the belief that the RSB does very little once you lower the car 1.5". I had a RSB with my ST and Intrax springs. I took it off one night and drove around for one month and noticed that:
1) The suspension didn't seem so bound up
2) The ride was better because 16lbs of unsprung weight was removed.
3) Much of the rocking going over bumpy surfaces was reduced
4) The car was far more controllable in tight turns.
Remember that Motor Trend got better handling numbers out of the SMX Maxima WITHOUT the RSB.
Once you've lowered the center of gravity, the RSB's characteristics are reduced.
A mod no one really talks about anymore is the Poormans/OSCAI setup. I still think this is a great setup and my dynos showed there really is no difference between the Poorman's CAI and a hybrid intake. I'm currently running the Poorman's CAI setup along with a "hacked" airbox. I love the sound and power.
Dave
Originally posted by blubyu2k2
UDP
UDP
Early in 2002 I dynoed my car with a WSP non-mandrel bent y-pipe in place of Stillen mandrel bent y-pipe. I had also just installed my UDP. No other changes were made to the car and the runs were on the same machine and under the same correction factors. My power went from 175fwhp/192fwtq to 183fwhp/193fwtq with as much as 12fwhp/fwtq gained in certain areas of the powerband from 2800-5500rpms. Do you think a non-mandrel bent y-pipe is going to out flow a mandrel bent y-pipe that substainally. My Stillen flex section was in good shape when I sold the y-pipe. I will admit that the non-mandrel y-pipe does use some larger diameter tubing in some places therefore some of the gains could be attributed to the WSP y-pipe, but not all the gains.
Dave
Originally posted by Dave B
Hmmmm....
Early in 2002 I dynoed my car with a WSP non-mandrel bent y-pipe in place of Stillen mandrel bent y-pipe. I had also just installed my UDP. No other changes were made to the car and the runs were on the same machine and under the same correction factors. My power went from 175fwhp/192fwtq to 183fwhp/193fwtq with as much as 12fwhp/fwtq gained in certain areas of the powerband from 2800-5500rpms. Do you think a non-mandrel bent y-pipe is going to out flow a mandrel bent y-pipe that substainally. My Stillen flex section was in good shape when I sold the y-pipe. I will admit that the non-mandrel y-pipe does use some larger diameter tubing in some places therefore some of the gains could be attributed to the WSP y-pipe, but not all the gains.
Dave
Hmmmm....
Early in 2002 I dynoed my car with a WSP non-mandrel bent y-pipe in place of Stillen mandrel bent y-pipe. I had also just installed my UDP. No other changes were made to the car and the runs were on the same machine and under the same correction factors. My power went from 175fwhp/192fwtq to 183fwhp/193fwtq with as much as 12fwhp/fwtq gained in certain areas of the powerband from 2800-5500rpms. Do you think a non-mandrel bent y-pipe is going to out flow a mandrel bent y-pipe that substainally. My Stillen flex section was in good shape when I sold the y-pipe. I will admit that the non-mandrel y-pipe does use some larger diameter tubing in some places therefore some of the gains could be attributed to the WSP y-pipe, but not all the gains.
Dave
I'm shocked at the people that are saying the RSB makes little to no difference on a lowered car. My car is lower and stiffer (on 500# ground controls) than 99.99% of the Maximas in the world and I would't trade my Stillen RSB for ANYTHING. Once you've driven with and WITHOUT it on a road course you will know what I am talking about. The difference is night and day to me.
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Originally posted by WizzaMax
what is the purpose of the inquiry?
what is the purpose of the inquiry?
You can look at this thread as a "return down memory lane" thread on the mods that everyone made a big deal about back then and don't really care about now.
Here are some:
1) Bodykits
2) Lighting
3) Clear taillights
4) Straight pipe
5) Y-pipes
6) Catbacks
7) RSTB
8) RSB
And in general, a lot of those other rice mods out there... It seems as though the amount of technical posts has gone down dramatically... Posts there should be more of are ones about porting the TB, Pathfinder TB's, advanced timing, turbos (different kits, intstalls, etc), S/C's, fuel management, JWT ECU/Cams, lightweight wheels, tire weights and other performance tricks to maximize performance...
1) Bodykits
2) Lighting
3) Clear taillights
4) Straight pipe
5) Y-pipes
6) Catbacks
7) RSTB
8) RSB
And in general, a lot of those other rice mods out there... It seems as though the amount of technical posts has gone down dramatically... Posts there should be more of are ones about porting the TB, Pathfinder TB's, advanced timing, turbos (different kits, intstalls, etc), S/C's, fuel management, JWT ECU/Cams, lightweight wheels, tire weights and other performance tricks to maximize performance...
Originally posted by max7
It's probably just me, but there is less interest in super chargers lately. New turbo kits are poping left and right. Maybe it's just me but I've seen a lot less interest in the sc mod lately.
It's probably just me, but there is less interest in super chargers lately. New turbo kits are poping left and right. Maybe it's just me but I've seen a lot less interest in the sc mod lately.




