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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 05:52 AM
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What mods do people NOT care to talk about anymore?

Many mods have been done and some have been talked about to death. What mods have we forgotten about and why?
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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RSTB - it does nothing
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
RSTB - it does nothing


Sure it does. Doesn't do a lot, and it's not worth the money (unless its close to free like mine was), but it does work.
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Sure it does. Doesn't do a lot, and it's not worth the money (unless its close to free like mine was), but it does work.
i beg to differ..

the rear end of our maxima's have a solid rear beam, which means that their is less movement between the rear shocks than their is for the front struts. The rear is already solid as we know it doesn't need alignment.

I thought about this for a while and then i sold my RSTB, and i still havn't noticed any difference since selling it.
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Originally posted by SprintMax


i beg to differ..

the rear end of our maxima's have a solid rear beam, which means that their is less movement between the rear shocks than their is for the front struts. The rear is already solid as we know it doesn't need alignment.

I thought about this for a while and then i sold my RSTB, and i still havn't noticed any difference since selling it.
Ok. I put one on. I noticed a difference. I'm keeping it.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax

the rear end of our maxima's have a solid rear beam
I never cared to talk about the RSB for this reason also. The purpose of the RSB is to keep the inside and outside tires planted through turns. My conclusion to stop body roll is added a stiffer suspension up front and in the rear. Using the RSB in the rear after a drop is useless and only takes up space.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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I never cared to talk about the RSB for this reason also. The purpose of the RSB is to keep the inside and outside tires planted through turns. My conclusion to stop body roll is added a stiffer suspension up front and in the rear. Using the RSB in the rear after a drop is useless and only takes up space.
see RSB is different.. you can adjust your RSB.. i noticed a huge difference with my RSB.. its the RSTB that i rendered useless
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see RSB is different.. you can adjust your RSB.. i noticed a huge difference with my RSB.. its the RSTB that i rendered useless
I didn't know you had one but I guess you should know better than I do. Basically I'm pulling a Steve on the theory of why it shouldn't work.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:30 AM
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see RSB is different.. you can adjust your RSB.. i noticed a huge difference with my RSB.. its the RSTB that i rendered useless
I have to agree about the RSB. I noticed a significant decrease in understeer during hard cornering with the RSB. It took a little getting used to, I kept thinking the rear end was about to swing out.
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What is the difference between an RSB and RSTB? Is the RSB mounted lower inbetween the struts, where as the RSTB is mounted to the top of the struts somehow? Pardon my foolishness.
Originally posted by Stephen Max


I have to agree about the RSB. I noticed a significant decrease in understeer during hard cornering with the RSB. It took a little getting used to, I kept thinking the rear end was about to swing out.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by deezo
I didn't know you had one but I guess you should know better than I do. Basically I'm pulling a Steve on the theory of why it shouldn't work.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by Stephen Max


I guess you don't know SteVTEC then.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by kingrukus
What is the difference between an RSB and RSTB? Is the RSB mounted lower inbetween the struts, where as the RSTB is mounted to the top of the struts somehow? Pardon my foolishness.
RSB = Rear Sway Bar. Mounts underneath the car to the axle and control arms(?)

RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace. Similar to the FSTB (Front) Mounts to the top of the struts inside the trunk. Minimal if any effect.
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Originally posted by deezo
I guess you don't know SteVTEC then.
Oh. Now I understand. Too many Steves around.
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Safe, makes sense.
Originally posted by tomj


RSB = Rear Sway Bar. Mounts underneath the car to the axle and control arms(?)

RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace. Similar to the FSTB (Front) Mounts to the top of the struts inside the trunk. Minimal if any effect.
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anything that has to do with blue lights
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
anything that has to do with blue lights
...or nozzle lights, any color.
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Type 2 Wing maybe?...not done a lot, but talked about more than enough.
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For the love of God please stop the 'I got my first mod....CLEAR CORNERS' posts.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by look2me40
For the love of God please stop the 'I got my first mod....CLEAR CORNERS' posts.
What's funny is when I was new here people begged me to get clear corners.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:38 AM
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I'm of the belief that the RSB does very little once you lower the car 1.5". I had a RSB with my ST and Intrax springs. I took it off one night and drove around for one month and noticed that:

1) The suspension didn't seem so bound up
2) The ride was better because 16lbs of unsprung weight was removed.
3) Much of the rocking going over bumpy surfaces was reduced
4) The car was far more controllable in tight turns.

Remember that Motor Trend got better handling numbers out of the SMX Maxima WITHOUT the RSB.

Once you've lowered the center of gravity, the RSB's characteristics are reduced.


A mod no one really talks about anymore is the Poormans/OSCAI setup. I still think this is a great setup and my dynos showed there really is no difference between the Poorman's CAI and a hybrid intake. I'm currently running the Poorman's CAI setup along with a "hacked" airbox. I love the sound and power.



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Dave.. was that a stillen RSB?
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Originally posted by deezo
...or nozzle lights, any color.
I would not consider those as mods. Hate those things.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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Are you going to start automatically locking\deleting threads that are related to mods\parts listed in this thread?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by deezo
What's funny is when I was new here people begged me to get clear corners.

I mean, it is a nice thing to have...but to come out here and say 'Wow, look at me, my clear corners are MONEY' is what I am talking about. As far as the strut bars go, they are a cosmetic mod once you lower the car. It sure looks nice in my engine bay
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
I'm of the belief that the RSB does very little once you lower the car 1.5". I had a RSB with my ST and Intrax springs. I took it off one night and drove around for one month and noticed that:

1) The suspension didn't seem so bound up
2) The ride was better because 16lbs of unsprung weight was removed.
3) Much of the rocking going over bumpy surfaces was reduced
4) The car was far more controllable in tight turns.

Remember that Motor Trend got better handling numbers out of the SMX Maxima WITHOUT the RSB.

Once you've lowered the center of gravity, the RSB's characteristics are reduced.


A mod no one really talks about anymore is the Poormans/OSCAI setup. I still think this is a great setup and my dynos showed there really is no difference between the Poorman's CAI and a hybrid intake. I'm currently running the Poorman's CAI setup along with a "hacked" airbox. I love the sound and power.



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I agree with this, I first had mine installed with stock suspension and I was like able to drift the car using lift-throttle in cornering. However, after I dumped the car I no longer could. I took my RSB off when I sold the car and notice NO difference in handling and oversteer with it off. However I did notice that when going over speedbumps the backend didn't feel as solid it sort of swayed a little bit, as before it felt real solid and rigid, but during cornering I really couldn't tell it is out, but I haven't tried any at the limit driving since it was out, but I remember when I first had it put on when the car was stock it was like night and day even at slow speed cornering.
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Also the car seems to ride over bumps and potholes better without the piece, the suspension seems to be able to do its job a little better.
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Hmmmm....

Early in 2002 I dynoed my car with a WSP non-mandrel bent y-pipe in place of Stillen mandrel bent y-pipe. I had also just installed my UDP. No other changes were made to the car and the runs were on the same machine and under the same correction factors. My power went from 175fwhp/192fwtq to 183fwhp/193fwtq with as much as 12fwhp/fwtq gained in certain areas of the powerband from 2800-5500rpms. Do you think a non-mandrel bent y-pipe is going to out flow a mandrel bent y-pipe that substainally. My Stillen flex section was in good shape when I sold the y-pipe. I will admit that the non-mandrel y-pipe does use some larger diameter tubing in some places therefore some of the gains could be attributed to the WSP y-pipe, but not all the gains.


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Originally posted by Dave B


Hmmmm....

Early in 2002 I dynoed my car with a WSP non-mandrel bent y-pipe in place of Stillen mandrel bent y-pipe. I had also just installed my UDP. No other changes were made to the car and the runs were on the same machine and under the same correction factors. My power went from 175fwhp/192fwtq to 183fwhp/193fwtq with as much as 12fwhp/fwtq gained in certain areas of the powerband from 2800-5500rpms. Do you think a non-mandrel bent y-pipe is going to out flow a mandrel bent y-pipe that substainally. My Stillen flex section was in good shape when I sold the y-pipe. I will admit that the non-mandrel y-pipe does use some larger diameter tubing in some places therefore some of the gains could be attributed to the WSP y-pipe, but not all the gains.


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thats good but I was just answering the topic question.
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I'm shocked at the people that are saying the RSB makes little to no difference on a lowered car. My car is lower and stiffer (on 500# ground controls) than 99.99% of the Maximas in the world and I would't trade my Stillen RSB for ANYTHING. Once you've driven with and WITHOUT it on a road course you will know what I am talking about. The difference is night and day to me.
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uninteresting mods include but not limited to

rewired turn signals or fogs
hyper-anything
led swaps
grounds


that's all I can consider...what is the purpose of the inquiry?
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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It's probably just me, but there is less interest in super chargers lately. New turbo kits are poping left and right. Maybe it's just me but I've seen a lot less interest in the sc mod lately.
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Originally posted by WizzaMax
what is the purpose of the inquiry?
Everything now a days is turbo this and turbo that. Here at the org it's like the change of seasons with modding.
You can look at this thread as a "return down memory lane" thread on the mods that everyone made a big deal about back then and don't really care about now.
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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Here are some:

1) Bodykits
2) Lighting
3) Clear taillights
4) Straight pipe
5) Y-pipes
6) Catbacks
7) RSTB
8) RSB

And in general, a lot of those other rice mods out there... It seems as though the amount of technical posts has gone down dramatically... Posts there should be more of are ones about porting the TB, Pathfinder TB's, advanced timing, turbos (different kits, intstalls, etc), S/C's, fuel management, JWT ECU/Cams, lightweight wheels, tire weights and other performance tricks to maximize performance...
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HELP! PROBLEM! do you guys think i should get clear corners? i just can't decide.
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HELP! PROBLEM! do you guys think i should get clear corners? i just can't decide.
No
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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It's probably just me, but there is less interest in super chargers lately. New turbo kits are poping left and right. Maybe it's just me but I've seen a lot less interest in the sc mod lately.
Actually i find more people buying superchargers more than turbo's due to the "issues" with both kits.. its the adventureous ones woh are not afraid of a couple set backs who are buying turbo kits



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