Manual transmissions stink compared to autos.
I want a 5-speed.
Originally posted by ms.thicknes
I can eat, shift and talk on the cell at the same time
I can eat, shift and talk on the cell at the same time
celly on the headset in the cup holder..
burger in the right hand with a little space in the bottom of my palm for shifting.
left hand on the wheel, soda between legs.
going straight.. knee's hold the wheel straight.. left hand lifts up the soda
it takes co-ordination, what most auto owners seem to lack
Donating Maxima.org Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,748
Originally posted by EvilRoadsVictim
manual is a ***** on long hauls. my previous car was a manual so i do know.
autos do not suck, and are annoying at most when they shift when you dont want them to. and the only reason they are 'slower' is because you have 4 vs 5 gears in most manuals. now even 6. but with auto 5 and 6 gears coming up soon to be common that will all change. and don't say something sucks just because your transmission is wasted or you can't shift or whatever.
manual is a ***** on long hauls. my previous car was a manual so i do know.
autos do not suck, and are annoying at most when they shift when you dont want them to. and the only reason they are 'slower' is because you have 4 vs 5 gears in most manuals. now even 6. but with auto 5 and 6 gears coming up soon to be common that will all change. and don't say something sucks just because your transmission is wasted or you can't shift or whatever.
Thats just jealousy talking dude....An auto will NEVER be a stick, even with 5 gears, its still an auto, it still suffers from further drivetrain loss, they still lag...need i go on!? Most new cars (i.e. accord) that comes with a 5sp auto AND 5sp/6sp stick still vary greatly in performance times...why, because ones an auto and ones a stick
I can say one thing, for track racing purposes the auto is very consistent, esp when you get into the 11s and 12s. My last car was auto and it was so much easier at the track, when i went back with my max, it took lots of passes to get just my launch down, let alone all my shift points...About 35 passes later, im still stuck with a 15flat
Damn tires!!!Eric
Not DAVEB the parts guy
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,549
Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp
Thats just jealousy talking dude....An auto will NEVER be a stick, even with 5 gears, its still an auto, it still suffers from further drivetrain loss, they still lag...need i go on!? Most new cars (i.e. accord) that comes with a 5sp auto AND 5sp/6sp stick still vary greatly in performance times...why, because ones an auto and ones a stick
I can say one thing, for track racing purposes the auto is very consistent, esp when you get into the 11s and 12s. My last car was auto and it was so much easier at the track, when i went back with my max, it took lots of passes to get just my launch down, let alone all my shift points...About 35 passes later, im still stuck with a 15flat Damn tires!!!
Eric
Thats just jealousy talking dude....An auto will NEVER be a stick, even with 5 gears, its still an auto, it still suffers from further drivetrain loss, they still lag...need i go on!? Most new cars (i.e. accord) that comes with a 5sp auto AND 5sp/6sp stick still vary greatly in performance times...why, because ones an auto and ones a stick
I can say one thing, for track racing purposes the auto is very consistent, esp when you get into the 11s and 12s. My last car was auto and it was so much easier at the track, when i went back with my max, it took lots of passes to get just my launch down, let alone all my shift points...About 35 passes later, im still stuck with a 15flat
Damn tires!!!Eric
Even many true automatics are quicker than thier manual counterparts. The F-Body comes to mind. While the autos don't post as high a mph as the manual, they typically get better ETs. Once you have a bunch of torque, the auto is by far the best way to have the quickest car.
With that said, the auto Maxima will always be slower, mod for mod, driver to driver. Those long gears and lack of torque really kill the autos performance, especially off the line.
Dave
Yup. Sequential shifters that use electronic clutches and still use the standard clutch/pressure plate config will be much faster than human shifint.
And you're 100% right. There's a reason why most/if not all serious drasters use automatics(or a version of them).
Donald. The only thing that stinks is your driving ability.
And you're 100% right. There's a reason why most/if not all serious drasters use automatics(or a version of them).
Donald. The only thing that stinks is your driving ability.
Originally posted by Dave B
Not entirely true. Sequential shifters (SS) like in Ferraris and BMWs will be the wave of the future and will outperform a human behind the wheel. The BMW M3 SMG is only .2 off the manual and the Ferraris are actually quicker with the SS.
Even many true automatics are quicker than thier manual counterparts. The F-Body comes to mind. While the autos don't post as high a mph as the manual, they typically get better ETs. Once you have a bunch of torque, the auto is by far the best way to have the quickest car.
With that said, the auto Maxima will always be slower, mod for mod, driver to driver. Those long gears and lack of torque really kill the autos performance, especially off the line.
Dave
Not entirely true. Sequential shifters (SS) like in Ferraris and BMWs will be the wave of the future and will outperform a human behind the wheel. The BMW M3 SMG is only .2 off the manual and the Ferraris are actually quicker with the SS.
Even many true automatics are quicker than thier manual counterparts. The F-Body comes to mind. While the autos don't post as high a mph as the manual, they typically get better ETs. Once you have a bunch of torque, the auto is by far the best way to have the quickest car.
With that said, the auto Maxima will always be slower, mod for mod, driver to driver. Those long gears and lack of torque really kill the autos performance, especially off the line.
Dave
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,816
It's probably best that he's paralyzed, maybe he didn't feel the teeth on impact :cringe:
Originally posted by deezo
It won't matter if he hits the climax. It'll be like watching Teddy Pendergrass on the new all over again.
[For those of you who don't know who Teddy Pendergrass is, he was a singer who was driving his Rolls Royce down the road while getting serviced by a transvestite and when he climaxed, he ran off the road. Now he's paralized from the waist down.]
It won't matter if he hits the climax. It'll be like watching Teddy Pendergrass on the new all over again.
[For those of you who don't know who Teddy Pendergrass is, he was a singer who was driving his Rolls Royce down the road while getting serviced by a transvestite and when he climaxed, he ran off the road. Now he's paralized from the waist down.]
Donating Maxima.org Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,748
Originally posted by Dave B
Not entirely true. Sequential shifters (SS) like in Ferraris and BMWs will be the wave of the future and will outperform a human behind the wheel. The BMW M3 SMG is only .2 off the manual and the Ferraris are actually quicker with the SS.
Even many true automatics are quicker than thier manual counterparts. The F-Body comes to mind. While the autos don't post as high a mph as the manual, they typically get better ETs. Once you have a bunch of torque, the auto is by far the best way to have the quickest car.
With that said, the auto Maxima will always be slower, mod for mod, driver to driver. Those long gears and lack of torque really kill the autos performance, especially off the line.
Dave
Not entirely true. Sequential shifters (SS) like in Ferraris and BMWs will be the wave of the future and will outperform a human behind the wheel. The BMW M3 SMG is only .2 off the manual and the Ferraris are actually quicker with the SS.
Even many true automatics are quicker than thier manual counterparts. The F-Body comes to mind. While the autos don't post as high a mph as the manual, they typically get better ETs. Once you have a bunch of torque, the auto is by far the best way to have the quickest car.
With that said, the auto Maxima will always be slower, mod for mod, driver to driver. Those long gears and lack of torque really kill the autos performance, especially off the line.
Dave
i knew someone would post about sequential shifters. Those could be the wave of the future, though i highly doubt they will trickle to the "bread and butter" sedans and cars anytime soon. What we may have is the ability to shift gears through the steering wheel (similar to the SMG M3) as in the new Grand Prix Comp G (similar to AutoStick, TipTronic, ShiftTronic, etc), but i highly doubt the sophisticated SMG will make their presence felt for a coupla more years to come.
Eventhough the SMGs are close in performance, its still an automatic. As far as pure driving pleasure, i feel a proper shifter just feels better, for me anyways. It makes me feel more intuitive with the car, as opposed to paddle shifters.
Eric
Supporting Maxima.org Member
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,042
Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp
Thats just jealousy talking dude....An auto will NEVER be a stick, even with 5 gears, its still an auto, it still suffers from further drivetrain loss, they still lag...need i go on!? Most new cars (i.e. accord) that comes with a 5sp auto AND 5sp/6sp stick still vary greatly in performance times...why, because ones an auto and ones a stick
I can say one thing, for track racing purposes the auto is very consistent, esp when you get into the 11s and 12s. My last car was auto and it was so much easier at the track, when i went back with my max, it took lots of passes to get just my launch down, let alone all my shift points...About 35 passes later, im still stuck with a 15flat Damn tires!!!
Eric
Thats just jealousy talking dude....An auto will NEVER be a stick, even with 5 gears, its still an auto, it still suffers from further drivetrain loss, they still lag...need i go on!? Most new cars (i.e. accord) that comes with a 5sp auto AND 5sp/6sp stick still vary greatly in performance times...why, because ones an auto and ones a stick
I can say one thing, for track racing purposes the auto is very consistent, esp when you get into the 11s and 12s. My last car was auto and it was so much easier at the track, when i went back with my max, it took lots of passes to get just my launch down, let alone all my shift points...About 35 passes later, im still stuck with a 15flat Damn tires!!!
Eric
Anyway, it's probably not jealousy because all of us could have chosen a stick - I didn't out of laziness (and yo Sprintie - I've driven stick (and bikes) for a good part of my life, so some of us auto types can shift just fine, thanks
)To me it's kinda an all or nothing thing - if I buy a RWD sports car, it'll have a shifter attached. With a FWD family sedan (don't get me wrong, it's a FAST family sedan), you only get part of the answer with a manny. It's not like you can downshift and bring the rear end around, or otherwise get yourself out of (or into) trouble.
Just my opinion though, and for you guys that are having a good time with the 6-spd (or 5-spd) -
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Nah guys, Donald's right. I've regretted converting to 5spd everyday, more and more. I miss the weak, powerless acceleration and the lack of control.
Racing a stock Automatic Maxima against a stock 5spd is like making Anna Nicole Smith try to play Serena Williams in a tennis match. One of them is going to get slaughtered, and probubly have a heart attack in the process.
Nah guys, Donald's right. I've regretted converting to 5spd everyday, more and more. I miss the weak, powerless acceleration and the lack of control.
Racing a stock Automatic Maxima against a stock 5spd is like making Anna Nicole Smith try to play Serena Williams in a tennis match. One of them is going to get slaughtered, and probubly have a heart attack in the process.
Originally posted by Dave B
With that said, the auto Maxima will always be slower, mod for mod, driver to driver. Those long gears and lack of torque really kill the autos performance, especially off the line.
Dave
With that said, the auto Maxima will always be slower, mod for mod, driver to driver. Those long gears and lack of torque really kill the autos performance, especially off the line.
Dave
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally posted by SprintMax
celly on the headset in the cup holder..
burger in the right hand with a little space in the bottom of my palm for shifting.
left hand on the wheel, soda between legs.
going straight.. knee's hold the wheel straight.. left hand lifts up the soda
it takes co-ordination, what most auto owners seem to lack
celly on the headset in the cup holder..
burger in the right hand with a little space in the bottom of my palm for shifting.
left hand on the wheel, soda between legs.
going straight.. knee's hold the wheel straight.. left hand lifts up the soda
it takes co-ordination, what most auto owners seem to lack
All YOUR grammer belong to me
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 7,400
Originally posted by silver99
Dude, where you at every sunday night im looking for someone to race. I have yet to come across a 5spd maxima thats is willing to race me. Quit talking shht.
Dude, where you at every sunday night im looking for someone to race. I have yet to come across a 5spd maxima thats is willing to race me. Quit talking shht.
You think your stock '99 automatic Maxima can take out my '95 SE Modded 5spd w/8psi of boost? Where's the darwin award when you need it? If we raced, i'd have time to stop by your house, tap your mom, and still win.
Donating Maxima.org Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,748
Originally posted by Craig Mack
You think your stock '99 automatic Maxima can take out my '95 SE Modded 5spd w/8psi of boost? Where's the darwin award when you need it? If we raced, i'd have time to stop by your house, tap your mom, and still win.
You think your stock '99 automatic Maxima can take out my '95 SE Modded 5spd w/8psi of boost? Where's the darwin award when you need it? If we raced, i'd have time to stop by your house, tap your mom, and still win.
, leave it to craig to be an a$$hole...but anyways, some of you auto drivers get really defensive when some of us 5sp'ers joke around. Step back, relax and stop getting your panties in a knot. All were saying is that autos are slower mod for mod, period. Get over it, geez..
eric
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 689
Originally posted by Craig Mack
You think your stock '99 automatic Maxima can take out my '95 SE Modded 5spd w/8psi of boost? Where's the darwin award when you need it? If we raced, i'd have time to stop by your house, tap your mom, and still win.
You think your stock '99 automatic Maxima can take out my '95 SE Modded 5spd w/8psi of boost? Where's the darwin award when you need it? If we raced, i'd have time to stop by your house, tap your mom, and still win.
Guest
Posts: n/a
I have been out of this thread for a while...but...I swapped because it is no contest, I drove my auto max for 5 years, and always got my as$ handed to me by the same exact Maxima (the donor car) it was stock and in 5 speed trim at the time. My FULLY modded auto would get raped by about 7 cars from 0-60mph. I swapped and have not regreted it since...
All YOUR grammer belong to me
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 7,400
Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp
craig, dude, cmon...you dont want me to come up there and say it to your face, i really dont wanna have to plant you on your a$$. You might think all that working out has helped, dont be fooled
eric
craig, dude, cmon...you dont want me to come up there and say it to your face, i really dont wanna have to plant you on your a$$. You might think all that working out has helped, dont be fooled
eric
Come over here and find out bish.
If worse comes to worst at least I will be able to outrun you automotively speaking. 
Donating Maxima.org Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,748
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Come over here and find out bish. If worse comes to worst at least I will be able to outrun you automotively speaking.
Come over here and find out bish.
If worse comes to worst at least I will be able to outrun you automotively speaking.
Eric>
<craigif my mommy bought me a S/C, i could outrun ya too, but we're cant all be so lucky
eric
All YOUR grammer belong to me
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 7,400
Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp
oh? tough guy, are we?
Eric><craig
if my mommy bought me a S/C, i could outrun ya too, but we're cant all be so lucky
eric
oh? tough guy, are we?
Eric>
<craigif my mommy bought me a S/C, i could outrun ya too, but we're cant all be so lucky
eric
I'd like to chime in....
I originally wanted a 5-speed conversion. Before I could source all of the parts, my auto died. After having a conversation with Rob and NRH Transmissions in Jessup, Md. I decided to keep the auto. Not stock however. Rob informed me that by converting to a 5-speed, I'm opening myself up to a load of problems...one of them being the differential bearings that so commonly go out on 5-speed Maximas. Instead, I opted to have a fully built performance auto transmission done by Rob himself.
My new transmission now has:
1. Kevlar clutches and bands
2. Heavy duty Hydraulic pump
3. VB recalibration (more aggressive than Max Tuning and Don's)
4. 2400rpm High Stall Torque Convertor
5. Posi Traction LSD
6. Chrome-Moly Driveshafts.
7. 3.48 Final drive ratio (Chosen for forced induction later)
*2400 rpm stall convertor was chosen as opposed to a 3000 rpm unit for low speed drivability purposes.
I don't think there is any 5-speed mod for mod that can hang.
I originally wanted a 5-speed conversion. Before I could source all of the parts, my auto died. After having a conversation with Rob and NRH Transmissions in Jessup, Md. I decided to keep the auto. Not stock however. Rob informed me that by converting to a 5-speed, I'm opening myself up to a load of problems...one of them being the differential bearings that so commonly go out on 5-speed Maximas. Instead, I opted to have a fully built performance auto transmission done by Rob himself.
My new transmission now has:
1. Kevlar clutches and bands
2. Heavy duty Hydraulic pump
3. VB recalibration (more aggressive than Max Tuning and Don's)
4. 2400rpm High Stall Torque Convertor
5. Posi Traction LSD
6. Chrome-Moly Driveshafts.
7. 3.48 Final drive ratio (Chosen for forced induction later)
*2400 rpm stall convertor was chosen as opposed to a 3000 rpm unit for low speed drivability purposes.
I don't think there is any 5-speed mod for mod that can hang.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally posted by NightRider
I'd like to chime in....
I originally wanted a 5-speed conversion. Before I could source all of the parts, my auto died. After having a conversation with Rob and NRH Transmissions in Jessup, Md. I decided to keep the auto. Not stock however. Rob informed me that by converting to a 5-speed, I'm opening myself up to a load of problems...one of them being the differential bearings that so commonly go out on 5-speed Maximas. Instead, I opted to have a fully built performance auto transmission done by Rob himself.
My new transmission now has:
1. Kevlar clutches and bands
2. Heavy duty Hydraulic pump
3. VB recalibration (more aggressive than Max Tuning and Don's)
4. 2400rpm High Stall Torque Convertor
5. Posi Traction LSD
6. Chrome-Moly Driveshafts.
7. 3.48 Final drive ratio (Chosen for forced induction later)
*2400 rpm stall convertor was chosen as opposed to a 3000 rpm unit for low speed drivability purposes.
I don't think there is any 5-speed mod for mod that can hang.
I'd like to chime in....
I originally wanted a 5-speed conversion. Before I could source all of the parts, my auto died. After having a conversation with Rob and NRH Transmissions in Jessup, Md. I decided to keep the auto. Not stock however. Rob informed me that by converting to a 5-speed, I'm opening myself up to a load of problems...one of them being the differential bearings that so commonly go out on 5-speed Maximas. Instead, I opted to have a fully built performance auto transmission done by Rob himself.
My new transmission now has:
1. Kevlar clutches and bands
2. Heavy duty Hydraulic pump
3. VB recalibration (more aggressive than Max Tuning and Don's)
4. 2400rpm High Stall Torque Convertor
5. Posi Traction LSD
6. Chrome-Moly Driveshafts.
7. 3.48 Final drive ratio (Chosen for forced induction later)
*2400 rpm stall convertor was chosen as opposed to a 3000 rpm unit for low speed drivability purposes.
I don't think there is any 5-speed mod for mod that can hang.
How much did all that cost? If your auto goes out, you will lose basically almost all of that and start over. Also, you are still not putting down the extra power.
Good Clutc, STS, Flywheel =
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally posted by Craig Mack
You think your stock '99 automatic Maxima can take out my '95 SE Modded 5spd w/8psi of boost? Where's the darwin award when you need it? If we raced, i'd have time to stop by your house, tap your mom, and still win.
You think your stock '99 automatic Maxima can take out my '95 SE Modded 5spd w/8psi of boost? Where's the darwin award when you need it? If we raced, i'd have time to stop by your house, tap your mom, and still win.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally posted by dmontzsta
I have been out of this thread for a while...but...I swapped because it is no contest, I drove my auto max for 5 years, and always got my as$ handed to me by the same exact Maxima (the donor car) it was stock and in 5 speed trim at the time. My FULLY modded auto would get raped by about 7 cars from 0-60mph. I swapped and have not regreted it since...
I have been out of this thread for a while...but...I swapped because it is no contest, I drove my auto max for 5 years, and always got my as$ handed to me by the same exact Maxima (the donor car) it was stock and in 5 speed trim at the time. My FULLY modded auto would get raped by about 7 cars from 0-60mph. I swapped and have not regreted it since...
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tarun900
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
19
Dec 20, 2021 06:57 PM
My Coffee
New Member Introductions
15
Jun 6, 2017 02:01 PM
Pied
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
0
Sep 26, 2015 03:29 PM