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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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Clutch system woes ....(pics)

i've been having a problem with the maxima for awhile now. at first the slave sylinder went out so i put a new one in...then that one went bad a week later and started leaking fluid from the piston. so i replaced it. then i thought my master was bad also so i replace it too.

ive bled a LOT of fluid through the whole system (im talking a bottle and a half) and no air is coming out. the pedal doesn't feel as firm as it used to but the slave is pressing the fork to the point where its touching the bell housing...is this normal?

the clutch doesn't grab unless the pedal is depressed completely to the floor. i used to only have to press is half way down

what else could be wrong if my hydraulic system is brand freaking new?













Old Apr 22, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Re: Clutch system woes ....(pics)

look at the fork, the throw out bearing may have came out of place. when you installed the throw out bearing it had a little cip type thingy, it goes on there facing upward like this u<---- if you did not do that then the TO bearing may have came out of place when you lifted it back up.
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 02:59 PM
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I agree with Jay. If you move the fork TOO much, it could cause the TO bearing clips to go undone. The 3-gen TO bearings also are "one way" ie.. they should be installed a particular way.

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look at the fork, the throw out bearing may have came out of place. when you installed the throw out bearing it had a little cip type thingy, it goes on there facing upward like this u<---- if you did not do that then the TO bearing may have came out of place when you lifted it back up.
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by JAY25
look at the fork, the throw out bearing may have came out of place. when you installed the throw out bearing it had a little cip type thingy, it goes on there facing upward like this u<---- if you did not do that then the TO bearing may have came out of place when you lifted it back up.
im not the one that put in the clutch. i had a shop do it like 8 monthes ago and the warranty on the labor is only for 90 days
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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I agree with Jay. If you move the fork TOO much, it could cause the TO bearing clips to go undone. The 3-gen TO bearings also are "one way" ie.. they should be installed a particular way.


he has no choice but to drop the tranny, he done replaced da m nearly everything.
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Well one suggestion is to try to peer in though the shift fork level hole? He's got the rubber boot removed in the pics. It "might" show if the TO bearing is "off". I know it will be freakin' hard to see but....

One other option is to maybe get a mechanic to use one of those cameras mounted one the end of a wire thingies. Plumbers use then to see inside pipes etc...

But worst case, yeah, tranny has to come off.

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he has no choice but to drop the tranny, he done replaced da m nearly everything.
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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Well one suggestion is to try to peer in though the shift fork level hole? He's got the rubber boot removed in the pics. It "might" show if the TO bearing is "off". I know it will be freakin' hard to see but....

One other option is to maybe get a mechanic to use one of those cameras mounted one the end of a wire thingies. Plumbers use then to see inside pipes etc...

But worst case, yeah, tranny has to come off.

uh, dont they have to tear the whole tranny down to replace the TO bearing?
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im not the one that put in the clutch. i had a shop do it like 8 monthes ago and the warranty on the labor is only for 90 days
Man fck that you need to go in there and raise some hell, 90 days my a SSSn if they installed it wrong eventually it would have came out of place.
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Take off tranny, yes. Take apart the tranny, no.

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uh, dont they have to tear the whole tranny down to replace the TO bearing?
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Trevor, it sucks, but you may have to drop the tranny. While I've never done anything like this, it's my understanding that once you pull the tranny, you can literally reach in and pull out the throw-out bearing. If your bearing did "fall out" this could explain a lot about the problems you've been having.


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Trevor, it sucks, but you may have to drop the tranny. While I've never done anything like this, it's my understanding that once you pull the tranny, you can literally reach in and pull out the throw-out bearing. If your bearing did "fall out" this could explain a lot about the problems you've been having.


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with my luck, it figures. you know, this car has been a good lesson in anger management lately....

i guess i'll give that company a call again.



one more question... so does the shift fork look like its out of place at all? i never noticed how it sat before i had all these problems...
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Originally posted by Soon2BMaxed
with my luck, it figures. you know, this car has been a good lesson in anger management lately....

i guess i'll give that company a call again.



one more question... so does the shift fork look like its out of place at all? i never noticed how it sat before i had all these problems...

is suppose to be straight I cant easily get to my since I have all the SCer piping other then that tomorrow I would snap a pic, is not suppose to be crooked like the first picture you have up there.

1st, 2nd 3rd and the 5th picture tells the complete story, look at it one end is touching and the other is not.
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by JAY25



is suppose to be straight I cant easily get to my since I have all the SCer piping other then that tomorrow I would snap a pic, is not suppose to be crooked like the first picture you have up there.

1st, 2nd 3rd and the 5th picture tells the complete story, look at it one end is touching and the other is not.
thats what i thought. is it EVER supposed to touch the bell housing?

hopefully its just the throwout bearing and not something worse, like the pressure plate.

i really dont wanna drop the tranny but it seems like i have no choice
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