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Old 08-03-2003, 09:25 AM
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IMPORTANT:Gas and Cell phones

this is taken from a-cl.com, i'm not sure if its a repost.

Subject: Shell gas message

The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in
which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.


In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during
fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline
pump.


In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when
fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.


And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as
fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they
were fueling their car.


You should know that:


Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes.


Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release
enough energy to provide a spark for ignition.


Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling
lawn mowers, boat, etc.




Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other
materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e.
solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.


To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules of Safe Refueling

1) Turn off engine.

2) Don't smoke.

3) Don 't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off.

4) Don't reenter your vehicle during fueling.



Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to
try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity"
at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.

His results were very surprising:

1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.

2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle
while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went back
to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.

3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.

4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.

5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas.

6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when
connected with static charges.

7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle
was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some
resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the
customer.

8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after the
gas cap was removed and before fueling began.



Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it
with gas.


If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping,
make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you
ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be
discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.


As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with
several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware
of this danger. You can find out more information by going to
http://www.pei.org. Once here, click in the center of the screen where
it says "Stop Static".
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Old 08-03-2003, 09:30 AM
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they warned us of the safety measure at my job when we a fueling our trucks up to cut off cell phones like a spark of static when you walk across a rug and touch a door **** it shocks you or sparks fly
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Old 08-03-2003, 09:52 AM
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Re: IMPORTANT:Gas and Cell phones

Originally posted by BioMaxDDS
this is taken from a-cl.com, i'm not sure if its a repost.

Subject: Shell gas message

The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in
which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.


In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during
fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline
pump.


In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when
fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.


And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as
fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they
were fueling their car.


You should know that:


Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes.


Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release
enough energy to provide a spark for ignition.


Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling
lawn mowers, boat, etc.




Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other
materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e.
solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.


To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules of Safe Refueling

1) Turn off engine.

2) Don't smoke.

3) Don 't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off.

4) Don't reenter your vehicle during fueling.



Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to
try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity"
at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.

His results were very surprising:

1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.

2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle
while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went back
to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.

3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.

4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.

5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas.

6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when
connected with static charges.

7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle
was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some
resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the
customer.

8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after the
gas cap was removed and before fueling began.



Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it
with gas.


If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping,
make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you
ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be
discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.


As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with
several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware
of this danger. You can find out more information by going to
http://www.pei.org. Once here, click in the center of the screen where
it says "Stop Static".
What does Mr. Renkes suggest in the state of NJ where full-service is mandated by law? How about when a NJ gas attendant is talking on the cell while pumping? Does this dude even exist? Seems to go against common sense if you ask me when he says only women have the tendency to go back into the car but big tough macho men stay outside. Sounds half-baked imho....
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Old 08-03-2003, 10:09 AM
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Re: IMPORTANT:Gas and Cell phones

Originally posted by BioMaxDDS

1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
Thats great.
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i'm not posting this to make women look bad, i just want to let you guys know its bad using cell phone while pumping gas
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Old 08-03-2003, 11:59 AM
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I didn't say you were posting it to make women look bad. I just thought that that was an interesting fact.
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That is some f*cked up ****, you know!

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Old 08-03-2003, 01:49 PM
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Did you guys even read the articles on pei.org mentioned at the bottom? http://www.pei.org/static/index.htm It says that whole cellphone/static thing is a HOAX. NOBODY has ever been killed by using a cell phone and refilling their car. wired.com, motorola, U of Oaklahoma all say so. Go read the articles if you don't believe it.

This is just as bad as the other people who send those hoaxs about viruses, bill gates sending you $100, little timmy needs you to forward his e-mail.
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good info to pass around.
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Old 08-03-2003, 04:37 PM
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In NYS it is illegal to use a cellphone at a gas station while filling up at all. Strictly enforced by the Fire Marshalls.
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Old 08-03-2003, 04:48 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
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Old 08-03-2003, 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
Shoot, ya beat me to it.
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Old 08-03-2003, 06:17 PM
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"According to the experts, there is a danger of touching off an explosion by using a mobile phone near gas pumps. However, this is a hugely remote possibility at best."

"So...you're tellin' me there's a chance!?" - Lloyd Christmas
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Old 08-03-2003, 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by sryth
"So...you're tellin' me there's a chance!?" - Lloyd Christmas [/B]
As much chance as turning your radio on/off while pumping gas. Since most gas pumps are located in well-ventilated areas there's hardly any build-up of fumes in any single spot.

Like everything else, there's always that "chance" - but no one is ever going to tell you it's 100% safe. Especially not in a society where lawsuits are as common as the air we breathe.
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Originally posted by soundmike As much chance as turning your radio on/off while pumping gas.
I know...It was a joke...quote from Dumb and Dumber.
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i guess this is a stupid post then
well, even if the chance is small, we should still try to avoid using mobile phone while pumping gas...
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Originally posted by sryth
I know...It was a joke...quote from Dumb and Dumber.
I know, just putting it out there for the other readers
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Originally posted by soundmike


I know, just putting it out there for the other readers
what a great movie.
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How about the rule about turning off car engines? I always follow this myself personally (I believe, as I'm sure is the reasoning behind this rule, that with a car still running, the chance is significantly increased for something to go wrong). However, like some of the gas attendents talking on a cell while pumping your gas, I've seen that they rarely check if your engine is really off. I've accidentally left mine on 2 or 3 times and once was with an attendent filling my gas.
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I'm trying to figure out what could happen with the car running. I can't think of anything. (I'm not too bright, though)
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