what are pros/cons of routing intake into interior cabin?
09-16-2003, 07:19 PM
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what are pros/cons of routing intake into interior cabin?
yeah...
it's very cold here in my office at work and this thing popped in my head.
what if i somehow drilled a hole in the firewall somewhere and routed the filter inside.
i'm guessin it would be really loud? u could proabbly here the sucking inside the car... but i'm just curious.
please feel free to flame lol
it's very cold here in my office at work and this thing popped in my head.
what if i somehow drilled a hole in the firewall somewhere and routed the filter inside.
i'm guessin it would be really loud? u could proabbly here the sucking inside the car... but i'm just curious.
please feel free to flame lol
09-16-2003, 07:27 PM
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that is THE craziest idea for plumbing an intake(possibly for a max mod period) i've ever heard bro!
i just give you props on having the nitz to speak it.
p.s. I wish it was cold in my office...oh wait I DON'T HAVE AN OFFICE!!!!!!!!!
i just give you props on having the nitz to speak it.
p.s. I wish it was cold in my office...oh wait I DON'T HAVE AN OFFICE!!!!!!!!!
09-16-2003, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KSESteve
What would be the purpose? 
hahaha yeah i couldnt think of any advantages that this owuld provide over HAI or CAI.
at least i could hear the cool sucking sound
09-16-2003, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nadir_s
what do you think??
hahaha yeah i couldnt think of any advantages that this owuld provide over HAI or CAI.
at least i could hear the cool sucking sound
hahaha yeah i couldnt think of any advantages that this owuld provide over HAI or CAI.
at least i could hear the cool sucking sound
If I knew I wouldn't ask. 
09-16-2003, 07:34 PM
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don't get me wrong it would get you great throttle response, but not very realistic. like i said good original idea. we(.org) need thinkers to come up with original ideas that performance mods can be base on. you never know
09-16-2003, 07:39 PM
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you'd be deaf within a mile from you house. don't waste your time with it. plus the cold air from inside the cabin won't net you much power over the air outside. MAYBE 2hp, but you'd lose it and more in the extremely long ductwork you'd have to run.
09-16-2003, 08:34 PM
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Here's a BETTER idea for you,
Stuff your trunk with ICE BAGs at JEWEL or whatever supermarket near you for 99Cents a bag, then route the "intake path" to your trunk, then drill couple small hole on top of your trunk. THUS COLD AIR INTAKE!!
But I hope you get a By Pass Valve along with it, so it doesn't suck in water from the ice melting
Stuff your trunk with ICE BAGs at JEWEL or whatever supermarket near you for 99Cents a bag, then route the "intake path" to your trunk, then drill couple small hole on top of your trunk. THUS COLD AIR INTAKE!!
But I hope you get a By Pass Valve along with it, so it doesn't suck in water from the ice melting
09-16-2003, 08:58 PM
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WEll it is actuall possible........but i don't know about a maxima
I know on Mopars drag neon....they have some sort of intake piping going into the cabin.....Now i am a little foggy on exactly which way it was setup. But I have narrowed it down to these two:
One...
The intake comes out of the firewall(from inside the cabin) and into the turbo then to the engine(no need for intercooler, cuz they run methanol)
Or. .......Two....They did need and intercooler, and the intake(inside the engine bay) ran throught the turbo, then through the firewall into a water to air intercooler then back out the firewall into the engine.
I think that it is the later of the two but my friend swears it is the first. Niether of us can remember exactly because we talked to the guy about it over a year ago.
One...
The intake comes out of the firewall(from inside the cabin) and into the turbo then to the engine(no need for intercooler, cuz they run methanol)
Or. .......Two....They did need and intercooler, and the intake(inside the engine bay) ran throught the turbo, then through the firewall into a water to air intercooler then back out the firewall into the engine.
I think that it is the later of the two but my friend swears it is the first. Niether of us can remember exactly because we talked to the guy about it over a year ago.
09-17-2003, 08:13 AM
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Well here's my .02/flame. 
Lets say you did this. You’re idling at the line for your 1st run. Windows are rolled up the AC is on full blast at lowest temp setting, vent set to recirculate and you've got it cold as $hit in there.
Here is the order of events that would likely happen when the light goes green and you hit the gas.
1. As the rpms rise the pressure drops like a **** in the cabin.
2. As the pressure drops your eardrums pop and you scream in pain.
3. You still haven't thought to take you foot off the gas the car shifts into second and tries to pick up rpms again but because of the vacuum in the cabin it bogs.
4. Remember your still screaming using up the last O2 in the cabin while the blood runs out of your ears. As consciousness fades your head falls forward but your foot is still on the gas.
5. Engine dies just after you from lack of oxygen and the car slowly rolls down the street until acted upon by an equal and opposite force.
6. You win the top spot in the Darwin awards for 2003.
Lets say you did this. You’re idling at the line for your 1st run. Windows are rolled up the AC is on full blast at lowest temp setting, vent set to recirculate and you've got it cold as $hit in there.
Here is the order of events that would likely happen when the light goes green and you hit the gas.
1. As the rpms rise the pressure drops like a **** in the cabin.
2. As the pressure drops your eardrums pop and you scream in pain.
3. You still haven't thought to take you foot off the gas the car shifts into second and tries to pick up rpms again but because of the vacuum in the cabin it bogs.
4. Remember your still screaming using up the last O2 in the cabin while the blood runs out of your ears. As consciousness fades your head falls forward but your foot is still on the gas.
5. Engine dies just after you from lack of oxygen and the car slowly rolls down the street until acted upon by an equal and opposite force.
6. You win the top spot in the Darwin awards for 2003.
09-17-2003, 08:24 AM
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With an idea like this, you should also add nitrous to your tranny to make it cooler and also add nitrous to your CD changer so it switches Discs faster.
Nadir you need to get some fresh air and think a bit
Nadir you need to get some fresh air and think a bit
right out of you.
09-17-2003, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
what about if you routed the ac to the intake inlet so that all the cold air would directly force its way into the intake air stream, thats almost forced induction
If a frog had wings...
09-17-2003, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
what about if you routed the ac to the intake inlet so that all the cold air would directly force its way into the intake air stream, thats almost forced induction ;0
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Did I mention I rode the short bus to school
09-17-2003, 03:38 PM
#26
Originally Posted by Cutlr7
AC on means your drawing power = null effect
and if ur goin wot it'll suck in all that cold air and VROOOOOOOOOOOM plus i dont think that the ac draws as much power as compared to the amount of cold air it sends in
09-17-2003, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
not true at WOT ac compressor turns off and if ur goin wot it'll suck in all that cold air and VROOOOOOOOOOOM plus i dont think that the ac draws as much power as compared to the amount of cold air it sends in
and if ur goin wot it'll suck in all that cold air and VROOOOOOOOOOOM plus i dont think that the ac draws as much power as compared to the amount of cold air it sends in I know you're just messing around. But for those future Darwin winner out there...
Think of the engine as a big compressor. Every 2 revs it's pumping 3.5l, so at 6000rpm it's puming 10500 liters per minute in volume. The CFM of air needed at redline is like 400-420. The best the blower for the AC/Heat can muster is maybe 100-150. Now as soon as you cross the 100-150cfm threashold the blower is in the way of the air path and you go nowhere.
09-17-2003, 04:42 PM
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OMG that is one of the best ones i have heard in a really long time....the only thing you for got was the windows imploding.
Originally Posted by maximaman777
Well here's my .02/flame.
Lets say you did this. You’re idling at the line for your 1st run. Windows are rolled up the AC is on full blast at lowest temp setting, vent set to recirculate and you've got it cold as $hit in there.
Here is the order of events that would likely happen when the light goes green and you hit the gas.
1. As the rpms rise the pressure drops like a **** in the cabin.
2. As the pressure drops your eardrums pop and you scream in pain.
3. You still haven't thought to take you foot off the gas the car shifts into second and tries to pick up rpms again but because of the vacuum in the cabin it bogs.
4. Remember your still screaming using up the last O2 in the cabin while the blood runs out of your ears. As consciousness fades your head falls forward but your foot is still on the gas.
5. Engine dies just after you from lack of oxygen and the car slowly rolls down the street until acted upon by an equal and opposite force.
6. You win the top spot in the Darwin awards for 2003.
Lets say you did this. You’re idling at the line for your 1st run. Windows are rolled up the AC is on full blast at lowest temp setting, vent set to recirculate and you've got it cold as $hit in there.
Here is the order of events that would likely happen when the light goes green and you hit the gas.
1. As the rpms rise the pressure drops like a **** in the cabin.
2. As the pressure drops your eardrums pop and you scream in pain.
3. You still haven't thought to take you foot off the gas the car shifts into second and tries to pick up rpms again but because of the vacuum in the cabin it bogs.
4. Remember your still screaming using up the last O2 in the cabin while the blood runs out of your ears. As consciousness fades your head falls forward but your foot is still on the gas.
5. Engine dies just after you from lack of oxygen and the car slowly rolls down the street until acted upon by an equal and opposite force.
6. You win the top spot in the Darwin awards for 2003.
09-17-2003, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
i know theres not enough pressure but the cold air sure would be nice, now to be able to keep cool inside AND use ac induction would be shweeeeeeeeet 
09-18-2003, 07:00 AM
#33
Originally Posted by nismos14
not true at WOT ac compressor turns off and if ur goin wot it'll suck in all that cold air and VROOOOOOOOOOOM plus i dont think that the ac draws as much power as compared to the amount of cold air it sends in
and if ur goin wot it'll suck in all that cold air and VROOOOOOOOOOOM plus i dont think that the ac draws as much power as compared to the amount of cold air it sends in
09-18-2003, 07:41 PM
#34
Yup. That's what I was thinking. the gain in cold temps would be more than lost, way more than lost, due to the extreme lack of flow inside the cabin. Oh, and the crazy noise.
This makes me think of once when I drove my friend's Mustang SVO, the one with the 215 HP 4-banger. Man, that thing had nice power, but the sh!tty Ford build quality had the turbo sounding like it was right there in your glovebox all the time. It sounded cool at 1st, but got annoying as **** after 20 minutes.
DW
This makes me think of once when I drove my friend's Mustang SVO, the one with the 215 HP 4-banger. Man, that thing had nice power, but the sh!tty Ford build quality had the turbo sounding like it was right there in your glovebox all the time. It sounded cool at 1st, but got annoying as **** after 20 minutes.
DW
Originally Posted by maximaman777
Well here's my .02/flame.
Lets say you did this. You’re idling at the line for your 1st run. Windows are rolled up the AC is on full blast at lowest temp setting, vent set to recirculate and you've got it cold as $hit in there.
Here is the order of events that would likely happen when the light goes green and you hit the gas.
1. As the rpms rise the pressure drops like a **** in the cabin.
2. As the pressure drops your eardrums pop and you scream in pain.
3. You still haven't thought to take you foot off the gas the car shifts into second and tries to pick up rpms again but because of the vacuum in the cabin it bogs.
4. Remember your still screaming using up the last O2 in the cabin while the blood runs out of your ears. As consciousness fades your head falls forward but your foot is still on the gas.
5. Engine dies just after you from lack of oxygen and the car slowly rolls down the street until acted upon by an equal and opposite force.
6. You win the top spot in the Darwin awards for 2003.
Lets say you did this. You’re idling at the line for your 1st run. Windows are rolled up the AC is on full blast at lowest temp setting, vent set to recirculate and you've got it cold as $hit in there.
Here is the order of events that would likely happen when the light goes green and you hit the gas.
1. As the rpms rise the pressure drops like a **** in the cabin.
2. As the pressure drops your eardrums pop and you scream in pain.
3. You still haven't thought to take you foot off the gas the car shifts into second and tries to pick up rpms again but because of the vacuum in the cabin it bogs.
4. Remember your still screaming using up the last O2 in the cabin while the blood runs out of your ears. As consciousness fades your head falls forward but your foot is still on the gas.
5. Engine dies just after you from lack of oxygen and the car slowly rolls down the street until acted upon by an equal and opposite force.
6. You win the top spot in the Darwin awards for 2003.
09-18-2003, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
i know theres not enough pressure but the cold air sure would be nice, now to be able to keep cool inside AND use ac induction would be shweeeeeeeeet
I'm curious to see how an engine would sound without an intake or exhaust manifold attached to it. Just the engine in all its glory.
I doubt an engine can create a vacuum in the cabin if the intake was located there.
My idea was to have the intake right in front of the side mirror. Catching in fresh cold air.
Alternatively, a team of monkeys can be used to constantly put ice from the large ice bag in the trunk to a container in the hood thru which the intake pipe will go thru. This way the air in the pipe will get cold as it passes thru the bucket of ice. And honestly, who wouldn't want monkeys helping make their car go faster?
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