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FSTB + RSTB + RSB = ??? skidpad performance increse

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Old Feb 15, 2001 | 07:15 AM
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OK, let's try this again.

Does anyone have skidpad numbers from before and after the addition of any combination of an FSTB, RSTB and/or RSB.



Old Feb 15, 2001 | 05:03 PM
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The RSB decreased actual skidpad numbers but makes the Maxima feel easier to drive quick via MotorTrend's comments.
Old Feb 15, 2001 | 06:16 PM
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Motortrend comments? Is that revirew available somewhere?
Old Feb 16, 2001 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Kenneth
The RSB decreased actual skidpad numbers but makes the Maxima feel easier to drive quick via MotorTrend's comments.
Decreased?? That's not true. The Maxima's suspension is set up to oversteer at the limit from the factory, they do this because it's easier to recover from that kind of skid, therefor it safer. Adding a RSB will make the car less prone to oversteer and even understeer in some cases, this increases the handling limits of the car but makes it more difficult to correct when a skid does occur. There are several other factors invlolved but this is all of an explanation I feel like typing right now.
Old Feb 16, 2001 | 01:21 PM
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You must have a different maxima than me...i've never been able to get predictable oversteer in the maxima....
Old Feb 16, 2001 | 01:49 PM
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He may have been talking about the 2K, much heavier and less nimble.

you still have to push it to understeer, but it's there, especially in the wet with the OH!-so wonderfull RE92.
Old Feb 16, 2001 | 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by bert
He may have been talking about the 2K, much heavier and less nimble.

you still have to push it to understeer, but it's there, especially in the wet with the OH!-so wonderfull RE92.
Hey, if you think those RE92's are bad, go grab yourself a set of Goodyear eagle RS-A's
Old Feb 16, 2001 | 03:20 PM
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Your explaination is 100% right if you reverse the understeer and oversteer terms in your paragraph. ie.. the maxima is set up to UNDERSTEER ie.. plow from the factory..



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The RSB decreased actual skidpad numbers but makes the Maxima feel easier to drive quick via MotorTrend's comments.
Decreased?? That's not true. The Maxima's suspension is set up to oversteer at the limit from the factory, they do this because it's easier to recover from that kind of skid, therefor it safer. Adding a RSB will make the car less prone to oversteer and even understeer in some cases, this increases the handling limits of the car but makes it more difficult to correct when a skid does occur. There are several other factors invlolved but this is all of an explanation I feel like typing right now.
Old Feb 16, 2001 | 03:28 PM
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Yea, sprung used the wrong terms. =) Skidpad performance was probably decreased because the tail became looser with the RSB.

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Old Feb 16, 2001 | 06:31 PM
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But getting back to the original reason for this thread. Does anyone have numbers?

I am going to be heading in for at least both STBs and possible the sway, in the spring summer. I won't see the difference when running winter tires and I would like to see the diff.

Old Feb 16, 2001 | 07:06 PM
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I don't think anyone will be able to give you hard #s. The car that motor trend tested was a stillen car I think. So it has other mods besides the basic boltons most of us have. But let me tell you. FSTB, and RSB. Must have! =)

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But getting back to the original reason for this thread. Does anyone have numbers?

I am going to be heading in for at least both STBs and possible the sway, in the spring summer. I won't see the difference when running winter tires and I would like to see the diff.

Old Feb 16, 2001 | 07:21 PM
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The RSB ot RSTB?
Old Feb 16, 2001 | 08:16 PM
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I seem to recall that you could use a G-tech(?) to measure lateral g-forces. I read that the bracket is a bit of a pain to setup sideways. I know some of you guys have one of these accelerometers. All you need is an empty parking lot.
Old Feb 17, 2001 | 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by bert
Motortrend comments? Is that revirew available somewhere?
I would like to say December '98. Try the library. Its a test of the "newly introduced" at that time Stillen RSB, Big Brake Kit and Vortech 1 S/C on their SMX test car. Everything was bolt-on to my knowledge on that model.

Previous SMX testing included an SMX with the 300zx brakes; which turned lower braking distances than the Big Brakes.

Also absolute skidpad grip had went down. Oversteer was increased, that's why the MT writer probably liked the RSB
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