Introducing: BlehmCo 12.6" Big Brake Kit!!
11-20-2003, 06:09 PM
#1
Introducing: BlehmCo 12.6" Big Brake Kit!!
BlehmCo Maxima Big Brake Kit
This kit uses easy-to-find, off the shelf ALL Nissan parts! That way the next time you warp a rotor, or wear out the pads at an Auto X, track event, etc.. You can just go to the local parts store and pick up replacement parts!
Not many BBKs will allow you to do that!
So what's in this kit?
NEW OEM 12.6" 2004 Maxima Rotors
Used/Rebuilt/Remanufactured 300ZX ALUMINUM Calipers, hardware, pads, shims, etc.
Caliper relocation bracket
All hardware necessary to install (nuts, bolts, washers, etc)
Goodridge Stainless Steel brake lines- Front and rear. Certified to D.O.T. FMVSS test 106 (many of the brake kits out there don't have this.)
The kit is offered with and without the 300ZX calipers for those of you who already have some, or have a good source for them already.
What are the benefits to this Big Brake Kit?
You guys already know the benefits of a big brake kit on your car, so I'll point out the original parts of this kit...
It uses a NISSAN rotor that's meant to fit on this suspension. The offsets are correct so as not to cause huge wheel clearance issues, the hub bore is a perfect fit, and the wheel stud holes are a perfect fit. It also doesn't rub on the control arms (at least not on 3rd or 5th gens). Since the face thickness, spacing, and offset of the rotor match other Maxima rotors almost exactly, there are no additional spacers required to fit these if your wheels fit the Z brake conversion- assuming the diameter isn't a problem.
As most of you know, the 300ZX calipers have a plethora of pad selections out there- WAY more than the Maxima does because of the enthusiast base. You can go with Wagner pads or comparable for the street for a very reasonable price, or you can bump up to Hawk, Performance Friction, Porterfield, Ferodo, and many other higher performance pads for track days. You can pick up pads at almost any parts store, so they're extremely handy. Much easier than having to order pads from Wilwood or $tillen$ and wait a week for them to come in! They're also designed for street use in that they have dust seals as well as fluid seals, pad shims to keep road noise to a minimum, easily obtainable rebuild kits, and all the other low maintenante benefits of a caliper designed for street use.
The rotors are currently available only through OEM sources (dealer), but that's only because it's a 2004 model. As soon as aftermarket suppliers such as Brembo start making replacement rotors, you'll have all kinds of choices for zinc plated, slotted, crossdrilled, or combinations of what you want.
I'm sure you're thinking "Shaddup and show me the pics already!!"
Well here you go!
I tried this kit with several wheels, so you can get an indication of what will fit.
So far, every 17" and 18" wheel I have tried will fit, but the 17s get close on spoke clearance- depending on wheel design. I make no claims to wheel fittment, but I can tell you they won't fit under most 16" wheels.
The Kit itself: http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...t/IM000631.JPG
The kit under 18" Volk LE37: http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...t/IM000634.JPG
The kit under 17" Konig Tantrum: http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...t/IM000640.JPG
the kit under my Fugly 17" MHT E-Tunes: http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...t/IM000642.JPG
There are more up close pics showing caliper clearance around the wheel and spoke clearance here:
http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/brake_kit/
Now for the part you're really worried about- Prices!
Rotors, caliper brackets, brake lines (all FOUR lines, not just the front lines), and all the other hardware necessary to install the kit:
$475 + shipping.
This kit fits 3rd, 4th, and 5th Gens! (yes, it requires different brackets)
Want me to source the 300ZX calipers for you? If so, then I can source just about anything you want:
Parts car pulls (cores)- whatever price I can find them. Current prices range from $150 to $250 per set.
Cores rebuilt with OEM seal kit- core price, plus $60 ($30 of which is the rebuild kit). This price does NOT include new hardware. (Contact me if you want new hardware also.)
Remanufactured calipers (loaded with generic pads, all shims, pins, and hardware), $350.
I can source pads at reasonable prices for most of the popular brands and compounds. Contact me for specifics.
I'm also currently hunting down a powdercoating rig, so I will be glad to powdercoat the calipers to your specs when I have it set up. Price estimate for that service is the core caliper price, + $120 for the powdercoating, which includes the OEM caliper rebuild kit since they require a rebuild after the powder process is done.
Questions? Comments? Where do you buy?
Go to my web page: http://www.mattblehm.com/brakes.html
This kit uses easy-to-find, off the shelf ALL Nissan parts! That way the next time you warp a rotor, or wear out the pads at an Auto X, track event, etc.. You can just go to the local parts store and pick up replacement parts!
Not many BBKs will allow you to do that!
So what's in this kit?
NEW OEM 12.6" 2004 Maxima Rotors
Used/Rebuilt/Remanufactured 300ZX ALUMINUM Calipers, hardware, pads, shims, etc.
Caliper relocation bracket
All hardware necessary to install (nuts, bolts, washers, etc)
Goodridge Stainless Steel brake lines- Front and rear. Certified to D.O.T. FMVSS test 106 (many of the brake kits out there don't have this.)
The kit is offered with and without the 300ZX calipers for those of you who already have some, or have a good source for them already.
What are the benefits to this Big Brake Kit?
You guys already know the benefits of a big brake kit on your car, so I'll point out the original parts of this kit...
It uses a NISSAN rotor that's meant to fit on this suspension. The offsets are correct so as not to cause huge wheel clearance issues, the hub bore is a perfect fit, and the wheel stud holes are a perfect fit. It also doesn't rub on the control arms (at least not on 3rd or 5th gens). Since the face thickness, spacing, and offset of the rotor match other Maxima rotors almost exactly, there are no additional spacers required to fit these if your wheels fit the Z brake conversion- assuming the diameter isn't a problem.
As most of you know, the 300ZX calipers have a plethora of pad selections out there- WAY more than the Maxima does because of the enthusiast base. You can go with Wagner pads or comparable for the street for a very reasonable price, or you can bump up to Hawk, Performance Friction, Porterfield, Ferodo, and many other higher performance pads for track days. You can pick up pads at almost any parts store, so they're extremely handy. Much easier than having to order pads from Wilwood or $tillen$ and wait a week for them to come in! They're also designed for street use in that they have dust seals as well as fluid seals, pad shims to keep road noise to a minimum, easily obtainable rebuild kits, and all the other low maintenante benefits of a caliper designed for street use.
The rotors are currently available only through OEM sources (dealer), but that's only because it's a 2004 model. As soon as aftermarket suppliers such as Brembo start making replacement rotors, you'll have all kinds of choices for zinc plated, slotted, crossdrilled, or combinations of what you want.
I'm sure you're thinking "Shaddup and show me the pics already!!"
Well here you go!
I tried this kit with several wheels, so you can get an indication of what will fit.
So far, every 17" and 18" wheel I have tried will fit, but the 17s get close on spoke clearance- depending on wheel design. I make no claims to wheel fittment, but I can tell you they won't fit under most 16" wheels.
The Kit itself: http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...t/IM000631.JPG
The kit under 18" Volk LE37: http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...t/IM000634.JPG
The kit under 17" Konig Tantrum: http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...t/IM000640.JPG
the kit under my Fugly 17" MHT E-Tunes: http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/...t/IM000642.JPG
There are more up close pics showing caliper clearance around the wheel and spoke clearance here:
http://www.mattblehm.com/HSS_images/brake_kit/
Now for the part you're really worried about- Prices!
Rotors, caliper brackets, brake lines (all FOUR lines, not just the front lines), and all the other hardware necessary to install the kit:
$475 + shipping.
This kit fits 3rd, 4th, and 5th Gens! (yes, it requires different brackets)
Want me to source the 300ZX calipers for you? If so, then I can source just about anything you want:
Parts car pulls (cores)- whatever price I can find them. Current prices range from $150 to $250 per set.
Cores rebuilt with OEM seal kit- core price, plus $60 ($30 of which is the rebuild kit). This price does NOT include new hardware. (Contact me if you want new hardware also.)
Remanufactured calipers (loaded with generic pads, all shims, pins, and hardware), $350.
I can source pads at reasonable prices for most of the popular brands and compounds. Contact me for specifics.
I'm also currently hunting down a powdercoating rig, so I will be glad to powdercoat the calipers to your specs when I have it set up. Price estimate for that service is the core caliper price, + $120 for the powdercoating, which includes the OEM caliper rebuild kit since they require a rebuild after the powder process is done.
Questions? Comments? Where do you buy?
Go to my web page: http://www.mattblehm.com/brakes.html
11-20-2003, 06:48 PM
#6
Amazing that all this can be done for such a low price...many props to you, sir 
Too bad I don't have my car yet
This sounds great...I think anyone who's been putting this off should definitly consider it!
Too bad I don't have my car yet
This sounds great...I think anyone who's been putting this off should definitly consider it!
11-20-2003, 07:52 PM
#15
The rotors in that pic are regular 1-piece OEM rotors.
I'm working with a company on producing a 2-piece version that will fit exactly the same as these do, so that will be the only additional cost.
I'm also working with a company on producing a 12.375" rotor for the rear that will fit under the same caliper. This fix some of the brake bias issues that most people see in every BBK, and it will also fill up some of the wheel...
I'm going to get these in 1 and 2-piece also, so for the hardcore track guys (or those with $$$ for show), you can run 2-piece rotors all the way around.
16" wheel fittment... they MIGHT clear under some 16" wheels, but I highly doubt it on most.
there's about 13mm of clearance inside the 17" Konig Tantrums, and about 18mm clearance inside my MHTs.
Depending on the wheel design on the 16s, they might or might not fit.
I'm working with a company on producing a 2-piece version that will fit exactly the same as these do, so that will be the only additional cost.
I'm also working with a company on producing a 12.375" rotor for the rear that will fit under the same caliper. This fix some of the brake bias issues that most people see in every BBK, and it will also fill up some of the wheel...
I'm going to get these in 1 and 2-piece also, so for the hardcore track guys (or those with $$$ for show), you can run 2-piece rotors all the way around.
16" wheel fittment... they MIGHT clear under some 16" wheels, but I highly doubt it on most.
there's about 13mm of clearance inside the 17" Konig Tantrums, and about 18mm clearance inside my MHTs.
Depending on the wheel design on the 16s, they might or might not fit.
11-20-2003, 08:21 PM
#17
Originally Posted by Quicksilver
And one inch is 25.4mm (.5" is 12.7mm), so I really doubt that the 16's will fare well with this setup 
dude what the name of the game that the gunman that is on the side of your posts? thanks
11-20-2003, 08:25 PM
#18
Originally Posted by vwink182
Quicksilver -
dude what the name of the game that the gunman that is on the side of your posts? thanks
dude what the name of the game that the gunman that is on the side of your posts? thanks
It's too bad I can't remember a damn thing right now...
i'll get back to you...
11-20-2003, 09:27 PM
#21
todamax, I haven't measured yet. I highly doubt there's spoke clearance on the front of the rims for the caliper though. the Z calipers are pretty big. sorry!
Chunger, weight according to my trusty bathroom scale is 18-19lbs. not exactly light, but since whimpy rotors is the problem on the Max, this should cure it.
Chunger, weight according to my trusty bathroom scale is 18-19lbs. not exactly light, but since whimpy rotors is the problem on the Max, this should cure it.
11-20-2003, 09:36 PM
#22
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
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Chunger, weight according to my trusty bathroom scale is 18-19lbs. not exactly light, but since whimpy rotors is the problem on the Max, this should cure it.
Chunger, weight according to my trusty bathroom scale is 18-19lbs. not exactly light, but since whimpy rotors is the problem on the Max, this should cure it.
Nothing a little more boost won't fix
BTW if you get that rear kit together (and if I haven't crashed my Max)... I'm in for a set!
11-20-2003, 09:53 PM
#23
Hmm... these might clear 300zx wheels. Here's a link (http://www.zfilms.org/Stories/Z32/2002/01/) showing the 12.7" VR-4 rotors clearing the 300zx wheels. Matt if you setup can clear the 300zx wheels without spacers I'd be interested. But I dont' know...
And how much for only the rotors and the caliper bracket?
TJ
And how much for only the rotors and the caliper bracket?
TJ
11-20-2003, 10:30 PM
#24
Originally Posted by teejnut
Hmm... these might clear 300zx wheels. Here's a link (http://www.zfilms.org/Stories/Z32/2002/01/) showing the 12.7" VR-4 rotors clearing the 300zx wheels. Matt if you setup can clear the 300zx wheels without spacers I'd be interested. But I dont' know...
And how much for only the rotors and the caliper bracket?
TJ
And how much for only the rotors and the caliper bracket?
TJ
If the VR-4 rotors fit under the 16" Z wheels, then these should too, as the offset is nearly identical to the Z rotors, and they're smaller than the VR-4 by a hair.
I'd say you've got a weinner!
You WILL need new brake lines too. the ones I'm having made for this kit are quite a bit longer than the factory and other aftermarket lines, due to the caliper being so far down on the wheel.
I'm having Goodridge make them, so they're not cheap- but they're VERY high quality. you get what you pay for in that instance, and a brake line is not a place I want to skimp on quality to save a few bucks.
Price on just the rotors, brackets, and hardware will be in the ballpark of $325+ shipping.
11-20-2003, 10:36 PM
#25
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
If the VR-4 rotors fit under the 16" Z wheels, then these should too, as the offset is nearly identical to the Z rotors, and they're smaller than the VR-4 by a hair.
I'd say you've got a weinner!
You WILL need new brake lines too. the ones I'm having made for this kit are quite a bit longer than the factory and other aftermarket lines, due to the caliper being so far down on the wheel.
I'm having Goodridge make them, so they're not cheap- but they're VERY high quality. you get what you pay for in that instance, and a brake line is not a place I want to skimp on quality to save a few bucks.
Price on just the rotors, brackets, and hardware will be in the ballpark of $325+ shipping.
I'd say you've got a weinner!
You WILL need new brake lines too. the ones I'm having made for this kit are quite a bit longer than the factory and other aftermarket lines, due to the caliper being so far down on the wheel.
I'm having Goodridge make them, so they're not cheap- but they're VERY high quality. you get what you pay for in that instance, and a brake line is not a place I want to skimp on quality to save a few bucks.
Price on just the rotors, brackets, and hardware will be in the ballpark of $325+ shipping.
11-20-2003, 10:40 PM
#26
several inches. the stockers on a 3rd gen are 20". these are 25", plus the connectors. I'm not sure what the A32 A33 are though.
I'll see if I can get odd-number quantities for the lines, as I'm sure many people already have SS lines for the rear. I've got to buy them in quantity though to get decent pricing, so I'll check with the distributor and see what we can do.
I'll see if I can get odd-number quantities for the lines, as I'm sure many people already have SS lines for the rear. I've got to buy them in quantity though to get decent pricing, so I'll check with the distributor and see what we can do.
11-20-2003, 11:27 PM
#30
hey matt, could u give a final price for everything including new brake pads, cheapest reliable brake pads u would recommend. When my rotors are shot and calipers, i'll be grabbing one of these but want a fully tally up. First i seen 475 then 350, is that total of everything? let me know
11-21-2003, 04:54 AM
#32
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
If the VR-4 rotors fit under the 16" Z wheels, then these should too, as the offset is nearly identical to the Z rotors, and they're smaller than the VR-4 by a hair.
Now all I need is that lovely overage check from school...
11-21-2003, 06:53 AM
#34
Seamax, the prices I listed are only for the fronts. Rears are currently in production for 5th gens (and I think they'll fit 4th gens too), but 3rd gens I'd just recommend the Z31 upgrade that I did on mine.
meccanoble, the $475 is for the rotors, brake lines, caliper brackets, etc.
the $350 is for the Z calipers themselves. those are factory reman'd units, loaded with some sort of generic pads and all the shimps, clips, pins, and etc that go on the caliper.
so in a nutshell, the WHOLE kit will run $825 + shipping, but that will include everything needed to do this kit except brake fluid, in NEW condition.
I'm in the process of setting up a wholesale account with some other places and I will be able to buy fluids soon, but not yet.
If you want parts car calipers, then you can save a little more money, but you're going to have to rebuild them sooner or later anyway, and there's no guarantee that the shims, pins, etc are all on the caliper when they get here. With the reman units, you're guaranteed a working caliper with all the parts required.
meccanoble, the $475 is for the rotors, brake lines, caliper brackets, etc.
the $350 is for the Z calipers themselves. those are factory reman'd units, loaded with some sort of generic pads and all the shimps, clips, pins, and etc that go on the caliper.
so in a nutshell, the WHOLE kit will run $825 + shipping, but that will include everything needed to do this kit except brake fluid, in NEW condition.
I'm in the process of setting up a wholesale account with some other places and I will be able to buy fluids soon, but not yet.
If you want parts car calipers, then you can save a little more money, but you're going to have to rebuild them sooner or later anyway, and there's no guarantee that the shims, pins, etc are all on the caliper when they get here. With the reman units, you're guaranteed a working caliper with all the parts required.
11-21-2003, 02:28 PM
#37
Any chance these fit under 5th gen. OEM SE 17" rims(6-spoke)?
Do you have a guesstimate on how much weight the heavier rotor/lighter 300Z caliper adds over stock?
Do you have a guesstimate on how much weight the heavier rotor/lighter 300Z caliper adds over stock?
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Rears are currently in production for 5th gens
11-21-2003, 03:27 PM
#38
I tried to set it up so the caliper was vertical, but in order to clear the bolts, I had to drop it downa little farther. it was either that, or make it almost horizontal at the top of the rotor... which would interfere with strut bolts.
I'm also working on a bracket to relocate the stock caliper. The proto bracket it done, but I haven't taken it to the fab shop yet, as I was trying to get this kit finished up in order to give everyone Christmas presents.
this bracket won't fit with the stock caliper, as the holes are different sizes, offsets are different, etc.
17" 5th gen wheels- I don't think they'll fit due to lack of spoke clearance on the front. the Z calipers are pretty wide, which is the issue with most wheels out there.. but they're no wider than the wilwood superlites used in the fastbrakes kits.
I'm also working on a bracket to relocate the stock caliper. The proto bracket it done, but I haven't taken it to the fab shop yet, as I was trying to get this kit finished up in order to give everyone Christmas presents.
this bracket won't fit with the stock caliper, as the holes are different sizes, offsets are different, etc.
17" 5th gen wheels- I don't think they'll fit due to lack of spoke clearance on the front. the Z calipers are pretty wide, which is the issue with most wheels out there.. but they're no wider than the wilwood superlites used in the fastbrakes kits.
11-21-2003, 05:33 PM
#40
That's not a problem, but understand (as I said above) that you're most likely going to need new lines also, because of the caliper position. PM or email me using the links above and we'll talk details.