Video of the 12.9 @ 106
12-08-2003, 10:13 AM
#41
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Sick...just sick!
You ZEX out of the hole and the tranny does the rest, right?
You ZEX out of the hole and the tranny does the rest, right?
I wasn't spraying out of the hole b/c it was too slick ,but yea I let the tranny do all the work when spraying.
....I try 
12-08-2003, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
just stopped by the rockingham dragway page. that must be one of the best places to drag race one earth. AWESOME ! im making a road trip !
12-08-2003, 07:44 PM
#45
Originally Posted by 3.0HO
I would love to see you guys run against one another NA vs NA on street tires.
Eh, no offense to Ceasar intended, but Matt vs Ceasar on street tires N/A would result in Ceasar getting stomped.
12-08-2003, 08:55 PM
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Great run Blu!!!
Can't wait till next year so I can hopefully get a good run in. Way to represent the Blue Maxima's of the world
Can't wait till next year so I can hopefully get a good run in. Way to represent the Blue Maxima's of the world
12-08-2003, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Eh, no offense to Ceasar intended, but Matt vs Ceasar on street tires N/A would result in Ceasar getting stomped.
I'm not talking best times. I'm talking consistancy and I'm sure Ceasar would win a few times on r/t and over the line first. Which to me is real racing aside from a course.
12-09-2003, 01:01 AM
#49
Originally Posted by 3.0HO
I'm not talking best times. I'm talking consistancy and I'm sure Ceasar would win a few times on r/t and over the line first. Which to me is real racing aside from a course.
12-09-2003, 05:19 AM
#50
Originally Posted by 3.0HO
I'm not talking best times. I'm talking consistancy and I'm sure Ceasar would win a few times on r/t and over the line first. Which to me is real racing aside from a course.
...I have finished 1st, 4th and 5th in the imports at the rock bracket events with over 60 cars each event entered in the brackets. If im competition I pull 500 lights all day as well as less than a tenth from my dial in. The last event I was in I missed an automatic bye into the finals by .004 
I cut a .496 light so of course I screwed myself out of a chance to defend my previous title.
12-09-2003, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Ceasar is deadly consistent you are right, but im not sure that even consistent .500 lights would be able to make up the .6 second gap between them
As I said it will be interesting to see how they do against one another. Their numbers are from different tracks and different conditions on different days. A 4th gen auto against a 3.5. Technically the 3.5 should spank it but it will be interesting to see if they actually can match up in real life.
12-09-2003, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
how do you know Im not consistant myself ...I have finished 1st, 4th and 5th in the imports at the rock bracket events with over 60 cars each event entered in the brackets. If im competition I pull 500 lights all day as well as less than a tenth from my dial in. The last event I was in I missed an automatic bye into the finals by .004 I cut a .496 light so of course I screwed myself out of a chance to defend my previous title.
...I have finished 1st, 4th and 5th in the imports at the rock bracket events with over 60 cars each event entered in the brackets. If im competition I pull 500 lights all day as well as less than a tenth from my dial in. The last event I was in I missed an automatic bye into the finals by .004 I cut a .496 light so of course I screwed myself out of a chance to defend my previous title.
12-09-2003, 09:16 AM
#53
Originally Posted by 3.0HO
As I said it will be interesting to see how they do against one another. Their numbers are from different tracks and different conditions on different days. A 4th gen auto against a 3.5. Technically the 3.5 should spank it but it will be interesting to see if they actually can match up in real life.
12-09-2003, 09:42 AM
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So, since no one else has asked...
Why is the trap speed so low? Traps are supposed to be an indicator of HP, and nitrous gives you a bunch more of that... So...?
Why is the trap speed so low? Traps are supposed to be an indicator of HP, and nitrous gives you a bunch more of that... So...?
12-09-2003, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Stereodude
So, since no one else has asked...
Why is the trap speed so low? Traps are supposed to be an indicator of HP, and nitrous gives you a bunch more of that... So...?
Why is the trap speed so low? Traps are supposed to be an indicator of HP, and nitrous gives you a bunch more of that... So...?
12-09-2003, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by skandalouz
106 is a great trap speed....
12-09-2003, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
how do you figure? not much experience drag racing I can see. Im going to leave this one alone...
For example:
2003 Corvette Z06 runs a 12.8 @ 114MPH
2003 Mustang Cobra runs a 12.9 @ 111MPH
2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello runs a 12.5 @ 117MPH
These are just a few examples. I don't see anyone else running a 12.9 @ 106.
So again, why are you traps so low?
12-09-2003, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stereodude
This coming from the person who had someone else install all his mods...
For example:
2003 Corvette Z06 runs a 12.8 @ 114MPH
2003 Mustang Cobra runs a 12.9 @ 111MPH
2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello runs a 12.5 @ 117MPH
These are just a few examples. I don't see anyone else running a 12.9 @ 106.
So again, why are you traps so low?
For example:
2003 Corvette Z06 runs a 12.8 @ 114MPH
2003 Mustang Cobra runs a 12.9 @ 111MPH
2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello runs a 12.5 @ 117MPH
These are just a few examples. I don't see anyone else running a 12.9 @ 106.
So again, why are you traps so low?
Also, slicks help your 60' time a lot. If you gain 0.2-0.3 on your 60' with slicks then that's an 0.4-0.6s gain on your ET. I forget about how the ratio usually works in relation to MPH trap gain, but your ET will definitely drop a lot more than you'll gain on your trap speed, if that makes sense.
It's really no different than a WRX that runs low-14's but at only a low-90 trap speed. Why? Because it can launch like hell but is very weak from a roll. Quick ET, but relatively "slow" MPH for the ET. The opposite of that is a Honda. Take a Prelude manual. Low/Mid-15's usually but at a 94-95 mph trap speed. Why? Heavy, and no torque so it can't launch worth a darn, but can run like hell in the last 1/8th and gain a ton of speed. Slower ET, quicker MPH relative to the ET.
blu's runs make perfect sense to me.
BTW, great runs Matt!
12-10-2003, 05:11 AM
#65
Originally Posted by Stereodude
This coming from the person who had someone else install all his mods...
Originally Posted by Stereodude
For example:
2003 Corvette Z06 runs a 12.8 @ 114MPH
2003 Mustang Cobra runs a 12.9 @ 111MPH
2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello runs a 12.5 @ 117MPH
These are just a few examples. I don't see anyone else running a 12.9 @ 106.
2003 Corvette Z06 runs a 12.8 @ 114MPH
2003 Mustang Cobra runs a 12.9 @ 111MPH
2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello runs a 12.5 @ 117MPH
These are just a few examples. I don't see anyone else running a 12.9 @ 106.
Originally Posted by Stereodude
So again, why are you traps so low?
12-10-2003, 05:16 AM
#66
Originally Posted by SteVTEC
To get good traps, you need serious top-end. All of those cars have it, but a 2k2 Max does not. Haven't looked at any dynos recently, but nitrous usually gives you extremely strong torque in the low-end and mid-range but drops off a lot at the top-end. The boost usually gives you more torque than peak horsepower, which is what you need for higher traps.
Also, slicks help your 60' time a lot. If you gain 0.2-0.3 on your 60' with slicks then that's an 0.4-0.6s gain on your ET. I forget about how the ratio usually works in relation to MPH trap gain, but your ET will definitely drop a lot more than you'll gain on your trap speed, if that makes sense.
It's really no different than a WRX that runs low-14's but at only a low-90 trap speed. Why? Because it can launch like hell but is very weak from a roll. Quick ET, but relatively "slow" MPH for the ET. The opposite of that is a Honda. Take a Prelude manual. Low/Mid-15's usually but at a 94-95 mph trap speed. Why? Heavy, and no torque so it can't launch worth a darn, but can run like hell in the last 1/8th and gain a ton of speed. Slower ET, quicker MPH relative to the ET.
blu's runs make perfect sense to me.
BTW, great runs Matt!
Also, slicks help your 60' time a lot. If you gain 0.2-0.3 on your 60' with slicks then that's an 0.4-0.6s gain on your ET. I forget about how the ratio usually works in relation to MPH trap gain, but your ET will definitely drop a lot more than you'll gain on your trap speed, if that makes sense.
It's really no different than a WRX that runs low-14's but at only a low-90 trap speed. Why? Because it can launch like hell but is very weak from a roll. Quick ET, but relatively "slow" MPH for the ET. The opposite of that is a Honda. Take a Prelude manual. Low/Mid-15's usually but at a 94-95 mph trap speed. Why? Heavy, and no torque so it can't launch worth a darn, but can run like hell in the last 1/8th and gain a ton of speed. Slower ET, quicker MPH relative to the ET.
blu's runs make perfect sense to me.
BTW, great runs Matt!
It was also a warm day around 70 so my car was running 1.5mph slower all motor than it normally does. Next trip to the track I will have better results
12-10-2003, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
To get good traps, you need serious top-end. All of those cars have it, but a 2k2 Max does not. Haven't looked at any dynos recently, but nitrous usually gives you extremely strong torque in the low-end and mid-range but drops off a lot at the top-end. The boost usually gives you more torque than peak horsepower, which is what you need for higher traps.
Also, slicks help your 60' time a lot. If you gain 0.2-0.3 on your 60' with slicks then that's an 0.4-0.6s gain on your ET. I forget about how the ratio usually works in relation to MPH trap gain, but your ET will definitely drop a lot more than you'll gain on your trap speed, if that makes sense.
It's really no different than a WRX that runs low-14's but at only a low-90 trap speed. Why? Because it can launch like hell but is very weak from a roll. Quick ET, but relatively "slow" MPH for the ET. The opposite of that is a Honda. Take a Prelude manual. Low/Mid-15's usually but at a 94-95 mph trap speed. Why? Heavy, and no torque so it can't launch worth a darn, but can run like hell in the last 1/8th and gain a ton of speed. Slower ET, quicker MPH relative to the ET.
blu's runs make perfect sense to me.
BTW, great runs Matt!
Also, slicks help your 60' time a lot. If you gain 0.2-0.3 on your 60' with slicks then that's an 0.4-0.6s gain on your ET. I forget about how the ratio usually works in relation to MPH trap gain, but your ET will definitely drop a lot more than you'll gain on your trap speed, if that makes sense.
It's really no different than a WRX that runs low-14's but at only a low-90 trap speed. Why? Because it can launch like hell but is very weak from a roll. Quick ET, but relatively "slow" MPH for the ET. The opposite of that is a Honda. Take a Prelude manual. Low/Mid-15's usually but at a 94-95 mph trap speed. Why? Heavy, and no torque so it can't launch worth a darn, but can run like hell in the last 1/8th and gain a ton of speed. Slower ET, quicker MPH relative to the ET.
blu's runs make perfect sense to me.
BTW, great runs Matt!
12-10-2003, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
Ok wtf does that have to do with racing? Huh? Anyone?
You're nothing more than a Maxima owner with a Napoleon complex about the car you payed someone else to make fast. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but having a fast car doesn't make you worthy of all the props and attention you're after. Anyone can put money into a car and make it fast. Doing something innovative like Uncle Max, or Hal, or Keving, or SR20DEN, or Craig Mack makes someone worthy of mad props.
What you you trap? Do you know anything about drag racing or just on car forums and magazines? Have you ever raced at the drag strip? Get out of my thread moron.
But, please... Let me do as Napoleon wishes and leave your royal highness's thread.
12-10-2003, 07:38 AM
#70
Originally Posted by Stereodude
It has nothing to do with racing, but everything to do with your attitude. You act like your the Maxima god. As if you had fabbed your own custom parts by hand and tweaked the hell out of the car all by yourself to make it so fast. Of course this isn't the case, but that doesn't stop you from misrepresenting yourself on the forum.
Originally Posted by Stereodude
You're nothing more than a Maxima owner with a Napoleon complex about the car you payed someone else to make fast. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but having a fast car doesn't make you worthy of all the props and attention you're after. Anyone can put money into a car and make it fast. Doing something innovative like Uncle Max, or Hal, or Keving, or SR20DEN, or Craig Mack makes someone worthy of mad props.
Originally Posted by Stereodude
Of course I know a thing or two about drag racing. How do you think I knew your traps were low for the time you were pushing? *sigh*
Originally Posted by Stereodude
But, please... Let me do as Napoleon wishes and leave your royal highness's thread.
12-10-2003, 08:04 AM
#74
Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Eh, no offense to Ceasar intended, but Matt vs Ceasar on street tires N/A would result in Ceasar getting stomped.
12-10-2003, 08:09 AM
#75
Originally Posted by 3.0HO
I'm not talking best times. I'm talking consistancy and I'm sure Ceasar would win a few times on r/t and over the line first. Which to me is real racing aside from a course.
anyways .. all those numbers and such takes some time to figure out and get into the theory of it. im still a pup ! ha Another thing is I havent done any bracket racing, so again I would put my money on blubyu2k2, especially if he is winning..its not easy !
p.s. lets meet up , you could race me, then neal, and then blubyu2k2 in the "Disney Three Musketeers style !" remember the guy who had all the duels lined up with them on the same day.
Ha ! just kidding .. man im bored..........no max either its in the shop
12-10-2003, 08:19 AM
#76
Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
yikes, thats for the support but a real bracket racer will tell you my times are fairly consistent witha manual. on our tree i need to be cutting a much quicker light .. starting in 04 im going to be jumping out of the gates much faster. i just started the drag racing thing, so as of late i have been trying not to red light, so theres been hesitation in the launch, but now that im talking with more and more people who bracket race, they say that if you dont get a redlight once in a while, your not trying hard enough. So if i recall correctly i can knock off a second on some of those launchs ..
anyways .. all those numbers and such takes some time to figure out and get into the theory of it. im still a pup ! ha
anyways .. all those numbers and such takes some time to figure out and get into the theory of it. im still a pup ! ha
12-10-2003, 08:39 AM
#77
Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
12-10-2003, 08:47 AM
#78
Originally Posted by MaximaPolak
Can you somehow send me the VID cause i can not see it.
12-10-2003, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
http://www.vqpower.com/v2/modules.ph...=getit&lid=121