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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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G35 is getting 4wd....What about the next Max?!

I wonder if the gen 7 Maxima will have the option of 4wd. I love my car but the torque steer is a little unnerving in some cases. How nice would it be if Nissan switched to at least RWD and possibly all wheel?
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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I wonder if the gen 7 Maxima will have the option of 4wd. I love my car but the torque steer is a little unnerving in some cases. How nice would it be if Nissan switched to at least RWD and possibly all wheel?
-- I talked to a guy at Detroit Auto show last year - when they were introducing the Maxima - he said that it was in the works for 2004 release, but they pulled it out and gave to Infiniti first. -- so I think it is a possibility. G35AWD is A/T only
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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G35=great drivetrain/AWD, but boring styling and gotta have a manual tranny! Wonder if you could put a 5th gen body on a G35 drivetrain/AWD and do a manual tranny swap? The 6th gen Maxima is UGLY...looks like an altima on steroids.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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The 6th gen Maxima is UGLY...looks like an altima on steroids.
That's because it is.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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G35=great drivetrain/AWD, but boring styling and gotta have a manual tranny! Wonder if you could put a 5th gen body on a G35 drivetrain/AWD and do a manual tranny swap? The 6th gen Maxima is UGLY...looks like an altima on steroids.
I don't know if you guys are aware but they just started offering the G35 sedan with a 6spd and its rwd. I heard of the awd coming.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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The G35 sedan is getting an optional AWD not 4WD and yes there is a difference.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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yes awd and 4wd are very different...4wd being better -- but not needed for everyday driving

I heard the 10th gen max is going to get wings and it will hover
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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I don't know if you guys are aware but they just started offering the G35 sedan with a 6spd and its rwd. I heard of the awd coming.
The 6spd has been out for a few months and the AWD option is already out but only on the auto trans equipped G35 sedan...
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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yes awd and 4wd are very different...4wd being better -- but not needed for everyday driving

I heard the 10th gen max is going to get wings and it will hover
Better is a relative term. 4WD is better for off roading because of the solid connection between the front and rear axles. But AWD is better for street use and cornering because of it's differential split of torque between the front and rear.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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They explain how/when the G35 AWD works in the commercials...
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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Doesn't AWD make it heavier? Plus higher cost, plus worse gas milage. So even if they come out with a 6spd AWD, RWD 6spd would still be a little better. IMO

And of course it would be very nice to have a RWD Maxima, unfortunately, it's only a dream right now
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 10:41 PM
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Doesn't AWD make it heavier? Plus higher cost, plus worse gas milage. So even if they come out with a 6spd AWD, RWD 6spd would still be a little better. IMO

And of course it would be very nice to have a RWD Maxima, unfortunately, it's only a dream right now
Nothing a pair of turbo's can't fix.

Btw, G35 = RWD Maxima.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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Doesn't AWD make it heavier? Plus higher cost, plus worse gas milage. So even if they come out with a 6spd AWD, RWD 6spd would still be a little better. IMO

And of course it would be very nice to have a RWD Maxima, unfortunately, it's only a dream right now
yeah but for the typical family..they dont need top notch performance...and awd makes it safer

many people dont trust rwd (doesnt help that people say it sucks in snow and all this...) so they would opt for awd instead and awd is much safer for the avg driver

Personally, i would rather own a awd g35 than a rwd g35 because of all year round dependability
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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Nothing a pair of turbo's can't fix.

Btw, G35 = RWD Maxima.
true dat
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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Being in Seattle, I'd tend toward the awd system of the G35. It's nice it only comes on when there's slip. But the car still has to lug the extra weight around. I'd still tend toward the rwd version. It's probably faster/quicker because it has to be lighter and have less driveline loss. RWD cars wouldn't be nearly as bad in rain/snow if it came with LSD(viscous, gear,clutch,helical) in the rear. That and some good all seasons would get you though 95% of the bad weather if you know how to drive. BUT the AWD G35 IS a nice alternative to the Audi A4. But when Subaru unveils their B4 version Legacy sedan with the 2.4L turbo, watch out.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 12:16 AM
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Gosh you all have been talking about the RWD Maxima, which in Japan that would be the G35. As far as AWD, it's far different from 4WD, AWD won't hurt the gas mileage that much. Look at Subaru, they are all AWD across their lineup. There weren't much drop in gas. It would be nice for a Maxima to have an AWD. We'll have to wait and see what happens in the future of the Maxima.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 12:19 AM
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The new G35X (AWD G35) has the Altessa system...which its technology is based on the the Skyline GTR. The G35s system works wonderfully and it seems like no other car company has something like that this far as i know of. The Altessa system works like this. On dry pavement the G35x's system puts all the power to the rear wheels and the car acts like a RWD car. When its in snow mode, the power goes to the wheels that are not slipping, for instance....the left front wheel is starting to slip.....so more power is added to the right front wheel if that has more grip.....or if the rear wheels are slipping and the front are not then the system will add more power to the front. This system is all controled by computers....it also works in rain too. This system i believe controls the brakes too....It's a highly honorable system....that I would love to have on my next car which is going to be the G35 sedan....but unfortunantly the G35X doesn't have the 6spd MT....so i guess ill settle with the RWD 6spd MT sedan....Also the unfortunant part too is that this is only offered in the sedan too.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 01:47 AM
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it will defeats the purpose having RWD or even AWD on the G35s if the maxima has RWD/AWD. personally i doubt the maxima will turn into RWD/AWD anytime soon.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 02:08 AM
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it will defeats the purpose having RWD or even AWD on the G35s if the maxima has RWD/AWD. personally i doubt the maxima will turn into RWD/AWD anytime soon.
well, I wouldn't say so. Maxima and G35 aren't in the same size segment. But yes, I agree, Nissan most likely won't make an AWD Max. The question is, then, what's next? I mean it's as big as it can get on that platform, many say it pushes around 280 at crank, and with so much torque steer, it's hard to imagine Nissan making that car more powerful.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 06:15 AM
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g35 AWD is advertised on TV as avail w/6spd. sweet!
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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But when Subaru unveils their B4 version Legacy sedan with the 2.4L turbo, watch out.
Are you talking about the B4RSK?
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:44 AM
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The new G35X (AWD G35) has the Altessa system...which its technology is based on the the Skyline GTR. The G35s system works wonderfully and it seems like no other car company has something like that this far as i know of. The Altessa system works like this. On dry pavement the G35x's system puts all the power to the rear wheels and the car acts like a RWD car. When its in snow mode, the power goes to the wheels that are not slipping, for instance....the left front wheel is starting to slip.....so more power is added to the right front wheel if that has more grip.....or if the rear wheels are slipping and the front are not then the system will add more power to the front. This system is all controled by computers....it also works in rain too. This system i believe controls the brakes too....It's a highly honorable system....that I would love to have on my next car which is going to be the G35 sedan....but unfortunantly the G35X doesn't have the 6spd MT....so i guess ill settle with the RWD 6spd MT sedan....Also the unfortunant part too is that this is only offered in the sedan too.
The evolution of sports sedans sure seems abstract in the sense that forever we have been taught, the lighter the car, the handling will inherently be better. The hp/weight ratio is key, the motor has less mass to push around.

That being said, the G35S already weighs in at 3370 (where like-trans 5th gen Maximas tip the scales at about 100 lbs less), now add the AWD system, and were talking over 3500 lbs easy, maybe 3600 lbs. Still the same "260 hp" motor.

The way things are going are not necessarily the best... The motors are getting more powerful, but yeah, that's to compensate for the weight of these cars.

Back when I had my old 4-cyl Camry, I was fond of the 4th gen SE Maxima. 190 hp and ~ 3000 lbs makes a fun car to drive. Quite a big jump to the 6th gen which probably weighs over 3400 lbs easy.

In conclusion, cars nowadays should be put on a diet.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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The last I heard, the B4 should be coming stateside, it wouldn't be a bad idea to put AWD on the Maxima. It wouldn't cost too much for Nissan to develop since they already have an AWD system used in the Murano (Altima, Maxima and Murano are all built on the same platform).
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Pretty good info on the Infiniti website about how the torque distribution of the AWD works:
http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,33...%3AMDLG35Specs
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Pretty good info on the Infiniti website about how the torque distribution of the AWD works:
http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,33...%3AMDLG35Specs

Click "Skip Intro" and then "See How It Works".
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Hmm awd maxima would be nice. That might keep me in the maxima family. It would also be a good sized car vs the 3-series sized G35 sedan. Nissan would have to try to price point it lower than the G35 awd? The infiniti site said the AWD G35 started at $31,xxx. If Nissan could do an AWD maxima that priced out a few thou lower than the G series, they would have a winner.
Just think of how cheap you would be able to get one after the depreciation! Good ahead and rebate ths **** Nissan!
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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The difference between the kbb.com MSRP on the 2K4 w/6spd and the G35 w/6spd is ~$3K. We know the Nissan line doesn't sell anywhere near MSRP, where as the G probably is due to demand. However, dealer service and extra year of warranty make it a no brainer IMO.

I'd take a G35S 6spd anyday. AWD would be nice if they upped the hp/tq to G35C level to make up for AWD.

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Hmm awd maxima would be nice. That might keep me in the maxima family. It would also be a good sized car vs the 3-series sized G35 sedan. Nissan would have to try to price point it lower than the G35 awd? The infiniti site said the AWD G35 started at $31,xxx. If Nissan could do an AWD maxima that priced out a few thou lower than the G series, they would have a winner.
Just think of how cheap you would be able to get one after the depreciation! Good ahead and rebate ths **** Nissan!
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Xmax
The new G35X (AWD G35) has the Altessa system...which its technology is based on the the Skyline GTR. The G35s system works wonderfully and it seems like no other car company has something like that this far as i know of.
BMW has a similar thing going on now and it's currently available on the new X5. IIRC, they call it xDrive.

The way they Edmund's describes it, definitely sounds like an ATESSA system.

"With xDrive, the X5's all-wheel-drive system is more flexible than before, aiding both foul and fair weather driving. Previously, the system operated in a permanent 38-percent front/62-percent rear torque split that could vary somewhat, but xDrive can give nearly full torque to either the front or back wheels. And up to 50 percent of the torque can go to just one wheel, making the X5 more tenacious in slippery going"
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Benj-AMG
I wonder if the gen 7 Maxima will have the option of 4wd. I love my car but the torque steer is a little unnerving in some cases. How nice would it be if Nissan switched to at least RWD and possibly all wheel?
Nissan has had at least 7 years to give the auto world a good-looking car, and since they failed, is there even any sense in producing a 7th gen? The most recent last-place performance in a group of 12 sedans was the death knell if you ask me. Acura wins this class again it seems. Add that to the 350Z being removed from the best lists of Automobile and Car And Driver after just one year, and I doubt Nissan is gonna focus on sporty cars. Titan, Xterra, Armada are probably what Nissan will, or at least should, focus on. Just gotta shake that MS stigma, that's all. 43k and MS are an oxymoron! Many would rather have their SUV made in Slovakia for that much coyne.
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Thing is the G is small. Like a 3-series or Audi A4. The maxima is bigger. I would rather have the size to fit adults in the back. And since both cars would be 6-sp and awd in theory, the only differences would be looks/weight/size.

Originally Posted by IceY2K1
The difference between the kbb.com MSRP on the 2K4 w/6spd and the G35 w/6spd is ~$3K. We know the Nissan line doesn't sell anywhere near MSRP, where as the G probably is due to demand. However, dealer service and extra year of warranty make it a no brainer IMO.

I'd take a G35S 6spd anyday. AWD would be nice if they upped the hp/tq to G35C level to make up for AWD.
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the next max better NOT look like a BLOATED altima
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I bet they will offer the awd in the current model form for 1-2 years then revamp the body style later. ala 2002-2003 vq35'd maxima and the 2004 3.5vq'd maxima

Originally Posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE
the next max better NOT look like a BLOATED altima
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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g35 AWD is advertised on TV as avail w/6spd. sweet!
It's kind of funny the cars the G is driving around are 4th gens.
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the next max better NOT look like a BLOATED altima
i think the current 6th gen looks like a bloated Maxima.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:36 PM
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personally i like my 3rd gen. could have bought a 4th gen or financed a 2003 6spd but it was something about that 3rd gen that struck my fancy.....
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Originally Posted by GLE02NJ
yes awd and 4wd are very different...4wd being better -- but not needed for everyday driving

I heard the 10th gen max is going to get wings and it will hover
ahahahhahaha that shiznit was unexpected.
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A 6spd G35 awd would be amazing for sure! When you start boosting an NA awd car are there a lot more potential complications than a rwd?
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g35 AWD is advertised on TV as avail w/6spd. sweet!
Nope.
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