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Old 01-10-2004, 11:55 AM
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lol that was fun. I lost most of my hearing doing it though. WAY too loud for daily driving, but I do plan on the cutout for the track. I put the stock intake manifold and hooked teh catback up yesterday. Feels alot better, especially since my vi hasn't worked in a while. Anyway we will make some more vids today. Anyone interested in the dyno, its on my homepage, or if you have runviewer I'll send you the file.
I want to hear that thing with the catback on
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
I want to hear that thing with the catback on
Patience young jedi, they should be up by tonight.
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Originally Posted by Y2KSESteve
Patience young jedi, they should be up by tonight.
damn that thing sounds sick
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I love the acceleration sound and the REVing but, I don't and never will like that V8 AMERICAN sounding crap at idle.
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What were your mods there?

Cattman: any pics of the headers? or actual dyno gains?
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Originally Posted by dmontzmax
What were your mods there?

Cattman: any pics of the headers? or actual dyno gains?
Pics of the headers are on my homepage.
Mods at the time of the video:
Cams, Headers, test pipe, non working VI, K&N, underdrive pulley, and no ac/ps.
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Maybe I am just wrong, but it doesn't "look" that fast, if squeeling of the tires isn't a good indication. I was mearly going off something that was a typical showing of a maxima with decent power.. not that all cars break loose.

And yes, everyone else's car is a piece of **** except mine. All of maxima.org has ****ty cars, please please please stopping posting pics of all your **** cars.

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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
but picking apart his car b/c you can't hear a damn tire chirp between the 1-2 shift is rediculious.
agreed!! and anyone who bases a cars power gain on hearing a "trie chirp" is plain ignorant anyways
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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
Maybe I am just wrong, but it doesn't "look" that fast, if squeeling of the tires isn't a good indication. I was mearly going off something that was a typical showing of a maxima with decent power.. not that all cars break loose.
First of all, his V/I wasn't working and we've all seen the difference that makes (the loss of over 3 MPH in the 1/4 mile), and he has the stock ECU. Imagine that thing with a working MEVI and extended redline That would be a beast. I think any N/A max that has the ability to pull on an SRT-4 with stock redline and broke-down MEVI is damn impressive, I don't know about you...
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nice...wonder how fast that truck was going when he pulled out, he matched the trucks speed like nothing the idle does indeed own!!!!!
I don't. That looks like a 40-50mph zone. Seeing that the truck was going a constant speed and he was WOT probably from a 10-15mph roll, it sure didn't look like he really took off that fast nor pulled away from the truck that hard. To me it didn't look like he took off terribly quick, but of course watching from the outside of the car be deceiving. Since he has the stock 6500rpm limiter and he only runs through 2nd gear (good to 66mph or so), it takes him approximately 6 seconds to get to the top 2nd (assuming he wrapped 2nd out close to redline). He goes WOT at ~3 seconds and let's off at ~9 seconds.

The fact that his MEVI wasn't working means little because he doesn't have the JWT ecu's extended redline, plus the MEVI does very little if anything from 0-70mph. It's too bad he doesn't have a 95-97 because he could really take advantage of all that extra topend power.

That lope sounds pretty cool, but it sounds nothing like a V8 with a crazy cam. If you guys think that sounds like a V8, you need to get your ears checked


BTW, I think the reason his MEVI is falling is because he has way too much vacuum line. His MAP sensor sits over by the timing chain which makes the system have to pull a lot of vacuum in the line. You need to keep the line as short has possible. It looks to me like he has about 2+' of line. That's way too much vacuum "head" (no not that head). I have about 8-10" of vacuum line operating the MEVI system. Here's his system:





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YO!@!!!!! hahaha, second video I was a little dissappointed at first cause the dam car sounded like them 8 second ugly domestic cars where the exhaust sounds like it keeps burping but when u did that final rev, BOYYY!!! NO RICE SOUND, sounded like all power like WOAH!!!!!! I wish my car sounded like that! What did u rev up to when it made that nice a$$ sound?! it sounded like turbo or supercharger before the BOV kicks in but way better

P.S. - why does the car sound like an old domestic 9 second car before the revs?
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Mecca...

-All his exhaust comes strait out the Y pipe
-Bigger cams make his duration putter like that


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Cams duration...his are a LOT longer and his valve stay open a bit longer. The lobes on the cam are bigger and longer making the idle "loppey" - pu TAT pu TAT
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I really wonder how the engine would be with these cams plus boost. I know the SR20 guys run JWT cams and boost with HIGH gains. It does not say that the cams are strictly NA. We all know our motors are not built to run boost 10:1 compression, but we do anyway with great gains...I dont think it would hurt to boost. With older V8's you can run wild cams and blowers with no problems.

Iron Lung: care to try it?
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how come i never saw that car?!?! i was a UTI student in Phoenix and I was the only Maxima there that I knew of... odd.

What phase is he in?
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OK so.........specs on the cams???
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Originally Posted by bijan gxe
OK so.........specs on the cams???
http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/cus....asp?PartID=24
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What cam can U get for $65? So far for DOHC V6 and V8 engines cams are in the $900-1200 range. The reason cams are expensive is that new billet cams are $200 each from nissan. So figure $800 for new billets and having them reground runs around $100-300 so the price is right.

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actually $1000 for 4 cams is still pretty expensive. I can get brand new Comp Cams Xtreme Energy cams for $65, and thats not even at cost (close to it, but not at it). I think $500-$650 would be a much more reasonable price.
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Old 01-10-2004, 04:24 PM
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I bet those S1 cams from JWT would make 20-30whp in a boost VQ. The specs are simular to the S3s for the sr20de and those cams make big power with a turbo. While NA S3/S4s are good for 8-15whp for the sr20de but when boosted gains are typically 15-25whp easy.

Originally Posted by hlh0501
tire spinnage is no way to measure power
I can slam from first to second and if anything I get one jump from the front end and it hooks&goes, no spinning - I'm on all season (400tread rated) stock sized tires w/ ACT.

we need dynos.
I know a well-designed/matched set of turbo cams would give great gains, but the chance of ever seeing those NOTcustom...
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Don.....page cannot be dislplayed
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From JWT's website:

S1 VQ30DE BILLET CAM SET 256 DEG .415" GROSS LIFT. LASH .013" COLD .016" HOT SLIGHT LOPE AT IDLE (TARGET IDLE SHOULD BE 900RPM). RUNS STRONG FROM 3800RPM ON UP. RECOMMEND RUNNING WITH JWT ECU.
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I bet if Iron Lung turns down his idle a bit more.......it'll sound like a MEGA BEAST
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
damn that thing sounds sick
Videos with stock manifold and cat-back re-connected are done. I'll try to get them uploaded and hosted by tonight.
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Originally Posted by MAXIN
Sounds sick!

As for cams with boost, 'I30Krab' is running JWT cams with his SC, his motor was built by JWT with DET parts.
What is Hal talking about? Why would it not work on boosted car? I heard that I30Krab has a more aggressive cam in his motor and either blew the motor or destroyed the cams, then he switched to the normal JWT cams. Don't quote me on this.
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im sitting around here waiting for the big show .. all the vendors are here ready to take orders ....wheres the video ?

waiting for the show !!
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Me want more cam/header movie!!! Me want!



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First one is being uploaded right now...
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I would definatly consider cams if I had the money. Can't wait to see the enw videos.
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Can't wait to see the videos... AND THE PANTHERS WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by spanishrice
What is Hal talking about? Why would it not work on boosted car? I heard that I30Krab has a more aggressive cam in his motor and either blew the motor or destroyed the cams, then he switched to the normal JWT cams. Don't quote me on this.
Because these cams dial in some considerable valve overlap I'm sure. If you use these cams with boost some boost might escape the combustion chamber through the open exhaust valves at the beginning of the intake stroke. This is my theory. Can anyone confirm??
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Is the car an auto or manual?
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It started as an auto, now a 5 speed.
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Originally Posted by Y2KSESteve
http://team310.com/maxima/matt003.mpg

http://team310.com/maxima/matt004.mpg

Both videos are with open headers. Please right click and "save as".

Thanks Optimus310 for hosting these.
These videos are with the stock manifold, cams, headers, and exhaust connected.

http://team310.com/maxima/mattnomevi001.mpg

http://team310.com/maxima/mattnomevi004.mpg

Enjoy! I'll try to get one of his car at idle with his exhaust connected soon.
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sounds good. But I think I liked it better with the open headers. Sounded faster!
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sounds great

oh yeah, he chirped second that time
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Old 01-10-2004, 06:43 PM
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That setup is way too quiet sounding. His intake sounds exotic, a little farty, but exotic, but the exhaust is really quiet.

And too many factors go into chirping then just power. Driver skill, road conditions, what kind of tires you have, pavement conditions, condition of your clutch and flywheel, and weather conditions.

For instance, it was 50 degrees today here in Florida. I spun into second gear and the rear end broke loose big time, and I barked third. On normal, mid 70 degree days, I usually bark into 2nd and chirp third. Sometimes I won't chirp the tires at all, becuase the road is clean and hot, with perfect weather, allowing me to gain maximum grip.

Way too many factors go into "chirping" then just power.
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Sounds really really nice!

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^^ It's almost like the exhaust tone has moved up an octave. Sweeet sounding...
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hey , thanks for the post ! lots of potential here
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