Originally Posted by kloogy

I wasnt able to see them either .....

Originally Posted by I30tMikeD

I really want to get the JWT cams but the install is the big hurdle. Headers I could do, but cams.....I am not even going to try and the cost to pay someone is not an option either.

Originally Posted by IceY2K1

What are you estimating for install price that's "not an option"?

Originally Posted by IceY2K1

What are you estimating for install price that's "not an option"?

Originally Posted by I30tMikeD

I would imagine no less than $500-$600. I told myself I was going to stop doing any major mods after the JWT ECU. I can talk myself into getting the cams but not paying for the install.

Originally Posted by IceY2K1

If you were local, I've been quoted $350.

Originally Posted by thebigsadler

Thanks a lot.

So 23peak HP made, with a VI and cams??? I am sorry, but that just kind of proves everything I have ever said about the VI.. It's such a waste on an n/a car, you can't compensate for the problems that always occur and it hardly ever kicking in correctly. Maybe I am just saying for experiences told me, and experiences that I have been posted.. since I wouldn't waste a cent on a VI.

So the dyno is saying that since the VI was working the cams and headers gave 23peak HP, but lost 10tq? I am just trying to gather my information.. And this setup walked (or hung with) a SRT-4?

Originally Posted by krismax

My dealer quoted $400 for install Im going down this road, but i have no clue what rpm limit to have the JWecu set at? I should be ordering next fri. And mardigrasmax said the crower springs and retainers for the supra are a prety close match. I guess ill have to just buy them and hope for the best.

Originally Posted by I30tMikeD

Is that a personal hook up price or did you just walk into a shop and get that quote?

I am leaning more twords cattman headers but just can't do it until I see a reliable NA dyno.

Originally Posted by Cutlr7

Not according to some of the guys who have the turbos already

Originally Posted by IceY2K1

Cattman said he sells a JWT spring/retainer set for $288+shipping:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....highlight=dyno

Originally Posted by krismax

I knew about these but i thought they were out of a stock nissan? They would be fine if they would reliable to 7600rpm Also if i was to put retainers in they would have to be titanium,are they titanium. its probably a little more expensive but takes half the weight of stock retainers for smoother reving.

Originally Posted by IceY2K1

They say "VALVE SPRING HD VQ30DE", I thought HD = Heavy Duty or something, but I could be wrong. I'd call JWT.

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/cus....asp?PartID=25

Originally Posted by krismax

My dealer quoted $400 for install Im going down this road, but i have no clue what rpm limit to have the JWecu set at? I should be ordering next fri. And mardigrasmax said the crower springs and retainers for the supra are a prety close match. I guess ill have to just buy them and hope for the best.

Originally Posted by IhateCOPS

Do you remeber that the MEVI was intended for the cefiro, which is Naturally aspirated?! its the same engine....duh.

It may be over priced, but hell when you can spend the cash for those headers....

Originally Posted by thebigsadler

what's a cefiro?

Originally Posted by Dave B

IronLung:

How is the idle vibration from the cams?


Dave

Originally Posted by Dave B

$400? Are you sure they know what cams are Either you're in good with the guys at your dealership or they don't know WTF they're talking about. Most dealership shop rates are around $65-70/hr. 400/65= 6 hours. I've studied the FSM and it sure looks like more than a 6 hour job. I've estimated ~10-12 hours and if I was doing it, about 20 hours If my dealership said $400 to install the cams, I'd do it in a heart beat.


Dave

Originally Posted by Iron Lung

Not smooth especially with the pr motor mounts. I idle about 700 and trying to engage into 1st smoothly is a chore. Also trying to accelerate slowly from 1200-2000 it usually starts bucking.

Steve let me borrow his Injen intake for the night and there is a HUGE difference between it and the popcharger and midpipe. From about 5000 to redline they are about equal but from 3000-5000 the injen pulls much harder. Steve and I plan on dynoing various intake setups(Injen, JWT, Frankencar, PR/Cattman CAI and a hacked stock air box), and also various exhaust setups.

Originally Posted by IceY2K1

For comparison sake, here's a recent dyno of Steves' car w/CAI, headers, catback, JWT ECU, 100K+ miles:



Can anyone overlay Steves' and IronLungs? If IronLung would send me the Runviewer file I could eyeball it.

Originally Posted by Dave B

Call me crazy, but isn't that Cattman's dyno (numbers are exact) of just the headers on a otherwise stock VQ 5 speed? That can't be a VQ with the JWT ECU because it's hitting the limiter at 6500rpms.


Dave

Originally Posted by Iron Lung

Steve and I plan on dynoing various intake setups(Injen, JWT, Frankencar, PR/Cattman CAI and a hacked stock air box), and also various exhaust setups.

Originally Posted by IceY2K1

When?!?!?

Please try and get a CLEAN run between your cams and Steves' MEVI.

Originally Posted by Y2KSESteve

Hopefully within a month. We're going to try and get a half a day at the dyno and have some fun.

Originally Posted by IceY2K1

Yes, Steve bought the "Cattmobile", but not stock. He had the PR CAI, headers, and new Cattman catback NOT sure about the ECU. The lower run is with his y-pipe.

Not sure about the ECU, but I know he *HAD* a NOS JWT ECU before he sold it. Probably didn't have the increased rev-limiter, since he had a stock intake manifold or more likely he swapped in a stock ECU to use for the header dynos.

Originally Posted by IwANnAMaX96

So are you saying that those gains were on top of a y-pipe??

Originally Posted by TILLEYS99

I may have to use these cams with my 6spd 3.5 turbo setup.

Originally Posted by blubyu2k2

Do you ever have anything good to say about someone elses car but your own....seriously. All I ever see is you patting yourself on your back but when it comes to someone elses projects you just point out the flaws.

I have nothing against you and your car is nice but picking apart his car b/c you can't hear a damn tire chirp between the 1-2 shift is rediculious. Not all tires squeel and if you listened closely it sounds like it breaks loose to me but how would you hear any type of chirp or slip over all that noise.

Anyway the end of my rant, and I'm sure I will get flamed by the bandwagon now.

Now onto my impressions of the car. The idle sounds mean as he11 and I wish you were back in SC like your plates say so I could check this out myself. That lumpy idle

Originally Posted by Dave B

Damn, that's what I figured. Lopey cams tend to cause lower rpm stumbling. I guess these are a no-go for me because I definately want to keep all my driveability.

As for the intake, I definately think the PR CAI or Injen would be the best setup for your car. I suggest the PR CAI simply because it pulls in the cooler air which should definately help lower rpm throttle response and reduces all chances of intake air knocking which is something people experience with the Injen. Good luck.


Dave

Originally Posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE

those guys are i know more about the SR than you can imagine. Boost +..., bored MAF, 370s, 255 fuel pump, 4 bar program, S4s, NISMO FPR, FMIC....need i continue.. unless u got an SR.. sorry for the OT..

Originally Posted by infinitiblast

How did you bore your plastic maf?

Originally Posted by infinitiblast

How did you bore your plastic maf?

Originally Posted by DA-MAX

same way you'd "bore" any TB or other solid material...its a common practice on 240s(and SE-Rs in this case) its known as the "MAF hack"