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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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99 vs. 2k Which should I buy

Hey all,

I'm weighing the differences in price and performance between these two cars.
I'm looking at the SE model for both.

the 99 has 190 HP
the 2k has 222 HP

reviews i've read put them both at 7.9 seconds to 60mph (obviously this will be slightly lower in standard, which is what I'm looking for)

can anyone tell me if this is true? if the 2k is 222HP but same performance as the 99, then is there any other reason to go with the 2k??

are they more reliable, easier to work on, excesivly more sexy, corner better?????

All information and perspectives are greatly appriciated ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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99's are better

I've driven both, and I just find the 99 more comfortable. Other than that, I think it would come down to a cosmetic preference. I like the 4g looks better than the 5g, which is why I bought a 99.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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I think that you should probably look at the differences in the body and which one you like better from that stand point. If you're purely going from a performance stand point...I'd go with the 5th gen. Keeping in mind that the 99 was a messed up year for the 4th gen performance wise...so..that should help with your decision
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nupe500
I think that you should probably look at the differences in the body and which one you like better from that stand point. If you're purely going from a performance stand point...I'd go with the 5th gen. Keeping in mind that the 99 was a messed up year for the 4th gen performance wise...so..that should help with your decision
Actually if you are looking on the performance standpoint you should go for a 99 ...

much more supporting mods and faster mod for mod
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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I think 99s look a lil better than 2K's.
The only thing that blows about a 99 is the ECU........

which colors are each???????
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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The only thing that blows about a 99 is the ECU........
2k ECU blows in that sense also..

so on ECU's they are even
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by nupe500
I think that you should probably look at the differences in the body and which one you like better from that stand point. If you're purely going from a performance stand point...I'd go with the 5th gen. Keeping in mind that the 99 was a messed up year for the 4th gen performance wise...so..that should help with your decision

Can I ask in what way the 99 was messed up, performace wise? I'm not anxious to purchase a 98, I'd like to keep it between 99 and 2k, Unless of course the 99 had serious problems, or was quite weak in performance....

thanks!


p.s. I'm just looking at the SE models. Need 5 speed stick!
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Can I ask in what way the 99 was messed up, performace wise? I'm not anxious to purchase a 98, I'd like to keep it between 99 and 2k, Unless of course the 99 had serious problems, or was quite weak in performance....

thanks!


p.s. I'm just looking at the SE models. Need 5 speed stick!

the ECU's aren't messed up.. its just that no one has cracked hte code for the 99's... but then again no one has cracked the code for the 2k ither.. so ....
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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IMO there is no point in getting a 5th gen unless you get the 2k2+ 3.5.....so I say get the 99.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SprintMax
the ECU's aren't messed up.. its just that no one has cracked hte code for the 99's... but then again no one has cracked the code for the 2k ither.. so ....

"cracked the codes" ??
so we can't diagnose our own car codes in the 99? or am I way off? are you refering to something else?
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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"cracked the codes" ??
so we can't diagnose our own car codes in the 99? or am I way off? are you refering to something else?

cracked as in tweaking the performance .. reprogramming the ECU
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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go for the one that has better resale value. Just in case you get tempted to trade in your car in 07 when the new skyline gt-r's roll into town.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dave harms
Can I ask in what way the 99 was messed up, performace wise? I'm not anxious to purchase a 98, I'd like to keep it between 99 and 2k, Unless of course the 99 had serious problems, or was quite weak in performance....

thanks!


p.s. I'm just looking at the SE models. Need 5 speed stick!
99's perform just as well as any other 4g. The only thing is make sure you get a FED SPEC one if you have existing 4g mods that you want to install on it.

CALI SPEC are a little pickier with what you can do, espescially with the exhaust.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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Oh, and if you have _any_ thoughts of getting a supercharger for it, get a 97 or 98. Kits for a 99 are different because the timing chain cover isn't exactly the same.

Performs just as well, but REALLY hard to find used. I had to buy mine new because I couldn't find a used one.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NISMO808
go for the one that has better resale value. Just in case you get tempted to trade in your car in 07 when the new skyline gt-r's roll into town.

where the crap did you learn this from?
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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SKYLINES in USA

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where the crap did you learn this from?

Its true, i heard about this nearly 3 years ago.
I'm not sure what the specs are gonna be like, or if they are comparable to the past Skylines though....
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ejj
99's are better

I've driven both, and I just find the 99 more comfortable. Other than that, I think it would come down to a cosmetic preference. I like the 4g looks better than the 5g, which is why I bought a 99.

I totally echo the above, having gone though the same decision several months ago and driving both. I know that the 'experts' say that the 2K is much more comfortable, including roomy, but I just didn't feel it.
Plus I would never buy any car in its first year of a new gen, no matter what the brand.
But don't forget, you need to love the car, so as people are saying, what about the color, and options, and what do YOU think? I didn't buy mine until I found one that kept me awake until I OWNED it.
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After my 2001 V6 Accord was totalled, I was going to get a 2002 Maxima 6spd. But the 5th gens with that tall mid-console and close proximity of the wheel and center stack just totally killed the room for me. Literally zero room between where my knee sits, the center stack, and the wheel. So I couldn't buy one.

But SprintMax told me to try out a 4th gen so I did and it was perfect.

Not as quick as a 3.5L Max but oh well, it's plenty quick for me.

And yes, 99 vs 00 is about a wash performance wise. The 99 is lighter and torquier around town, but the 00 is much stronger at the top-end and on the highway. Overall about even, though. Main reason the 00 isn't any quicker is because of the 200 lb of extra weight, and tons of extra unsprung weight also when equipped with 17" rims.

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Unless you get a 2k2 or 2k3 6spd.....go with the 4th gen for sure!
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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get the 99, i love mine to death
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NISMO808
go for the one that has better resale value. Just in case you get tempted to trade in your car in 07 when the new skyline gt-r's roll into town.
Yeah i've heard that they were on their way also


Originally Posted by nupe500
I think that you should probably look at the differences in the body and which one you like better from that stand point. If you're purely going from a performance stand point...I'd go with the 5th gen. Keeping in mind that the 99 was a messed up year for the 4th gen performance wise...so..that should help with your decision
I'm also wondering why the 99's were "messed up" performance wise..I'm auto and ran a 15.2 and my car's running better than ever, 48k and not a single problem yet...Just curious
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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There's nothing wrong with 99's other than that they have slightly less modding potential and pickup less gains from the y-pipe because they use the newer 5th gen design. That's it.

deezo ran a 15.6 in his stock 99 cali-spec auto and he's a big guy, too. Stock they're just as quick as any other 4th gen. 95-96's with mods + MEVI + JWT ECU still own all in modding contests though.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jr'sMaxima
Unless you get a 2k2 or 2k3 6spd.....go with the 4th gen for sure!
I agree.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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I have a 99 and auto-x the car, granted I'm sure 99's could have been a little lighter but it's still a strong car. I love my 99...so go for the 99 and enjoy
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i work for nissan and I got the inside scoope on the """Skylines"""" and they are in fact no more skylines than our cars. They "might" be all wheel drive but probably not. They might not even be turbo. And they might not even come. And if they do they will be based on a longer g35 chassis. Well just what the owner of melloy nissan told me. I won't be getting my hopes up
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
There's nothing wrong with 99's other than that they have slightly less modding potential and pickup less gains from the y-pipe because they use the newer 5th gen design. That's it.

deezo ran a 15.6 in his stock 99 cali-spec auto and he's a big guy, too. Stock they're just as quick as any other 4th gen. 95-96's with mods + MEVI + JWT ECU still own all in modding contests though.
*cough* 97 GXE *cough*
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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Both cars are great. After driving both a 4th and 5th gen for quite some time, I prefer the 5th gen mainly because I prefer the interior.

I believe the 2k is quicker stock as well as mod for mod (particularly from 70 and above) UNLESS the 99 adds MEVI which many people do not want to do. Honestly, I don't think the difference in performance is really even a consideration.

If you are going to do serious mods, I'd say look at an older 4th gen. You can get a real deal on some early 4th gens and they seem to have less problems (My 96 has 170k miles and has been trouble free).

If you are concerned about resale, get the 2k since it is only 1 generation outdated.
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
There's nothing wrong with 99's other than that they have slightly less modding potential and pickup less gains from the y-pipe because they use the newer 5th gen design. That's it.
That only goes for CALI spec 99's. FED spec 99's are the same as any other 4th gen.

Us smart 99 owners got FED spec ones.
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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when you buy a 5 or 6 year old car you shouldn't worry about resale value if by the time you sell the car it is alreay 8-9-10 years old. you're not going to get much for either one.
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That only goes for CALI spec 99's. FED spec 99's are the same as any other 4th gen.

Us smart 99 owners got FED spec ones.
my cousin's 99 Cali Spec 5spd shows no dip in performance.. and with a y pipe was just as fast as ours
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SprintMax
my cousin's 99 Cali Spec 5spd shows no dip in performance.. and with a y pipe was just as fast as ours
Yeah? I always assumed with the pre-cats still on the left bank you'd loose a little performance. Cool.

Can you swap FED spec headers on to a CALI spec car, or does that confuse the sensors/ECU?
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Yeah? I always assumed with the pre-cats still on the left bank you'd loose a little performance. Cool.

Can you swap FED spec headers on to a CALI spec car, or does that confuse the sensors/ECU?
well he is about to put in a new motor.. so i guess he is going to eventually find out
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well he is about to put in a new motor.. so i guess he is going to eventually find out
He bust something, or upgrading?
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The 99 should be more reliable. The 2K Max had many small issues z(like any new model year car). 99 should be well under 10K with parts galore (maybe with the exception of a few performance parts). As a former owner of a 95 and 99 5 speed, Id get the 99. Ha d a lot of comliments on that car too-more than I get on my 2002 SE.
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He bust something, or upgrading?
99 Maxima != E46 M3

that about says it
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The 99 should be more reliable. The 2K Max had many small issues z(like any new model year car). 99 should be well under 10K with parts galore (maybe with the exception of a few performance parts). As a former owner of a 95 and 99 5 speed, Id get the 99. Ha d a lot of comliments on that car too-more than I get on my 2002 SE.

Traitor

first the 99.. then the Busa

did you get another bike yet?
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first the 99.. then the Busa

did you get another bike yet?
Got a zx12. Not as much torque as the Busa but has more peak power. 162 at the rear wheel.

And Ive had 3 Maximas. 95 GXE 5 Speed, 99 SE 5 speed and now my 2002 SE 6 speed. I, sir, am no traitor.
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The 99 is faster and shoul;d have less problems thinking that the 2000 maximas have a lot of bugs in them.



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