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New Maxima Competition??!!

Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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New Maxima Competition??!!

New 2005 Toyota Avalon


http://www.thecarconnection.com/inde...&sid=178&n=158


Then again, its just a VERY ugly Toyota AVALON. Doubt it will have any type of performance to it besides the 270hp. I never knew what to make of that car. Just a wanna be Lexus/Maxima/Camry.
Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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talk about a styling disaster
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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Well whatdaya know.... Toyota finally decided to get off their *** and give Nissan and Honda some competition in the horsepower war... And yes, that car is beyond hideous, the headlights go more than half way up the hood to the windshield... could you only imagine a front shot... And gotta love those taillights, which from the side look like a current generation Honda Civic sedan's taillights... again
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGy
talk about a styling disaster
which makes it perfect comp for the 6th gen
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGy
talk about a styling disaster
lol oh krap ur back..
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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which makes it perfect comp for the 6th gen

haahahhaahahaahah
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Looks like a glorified Prius. IBTL
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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At first I wasn't feeling the 6th Gen Max. But it grew on me.

At first, I'm not feeling this Avalon/Prius.

I think Japanese automakers are creating lower standards in us so that when they unleash some supercars down the road everybody will jump on them.
Old Mar 22, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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Man, CGI guys. Avalon probably wont look anything like that....

That literally is a stretched Prius w/ minor tweaks, look at the rims, their just blown up Prius rims. Man, you guys are gullable!!

Oh, btw, i doubt they'll use a 3.5L, which they currently dont have in their stable of motors. They will either use a 3.0L DI V6 with around 240hp (i.e. new GS300 and mor likely) or the newer 3.3L with around 220hp.



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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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looks smaller than the current generation avalon and is no competition for the max fine 5 more horses but it basically a toyota no performance intended in that car just luxury
Old Mar 24, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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This thing has 170 horse
Old Mar 24, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
Oh, btw, i doubt they'll use a 3.5L, which they currently dont have in their stable of motors. They will either use a 3.0L DI V6 with around 240hp (i.e. new GS300 and mor likely) or the newer 3.3L with around 220hp.
Just because they don't have a 3.5L currently doesn't mean they won't make one. Their xMZ-FE 60-degree V-6 has plenty of room for future expansion well beyond the 3.3L that it's at now. The 3.3L 3MZ is simply a bored out 3.0L 1MZ. Toyota also didn't have a 4.0L V-6 previously for the new 4-Runner. So they made one. It's called the 1GR-FE. Brand new, hence the "1". No other car or truck had it previously.

Toyota is so big and has so much money that they can do pretty much anything they want to. They're not necessarily always looking at the bottom line and economies of scale like Honda or especially Nissan is who are both much smaller, and in Nissan's case still financially recovering. If Toyota isn't happy with how they compare to their competition, they've been known to significantly revamp cars after only 1 year in production. The 5th gen Camry is now on its 3rd V6/auto powertrain combination in only 3 years of production as an example.

I think it's a safe bet that the Avalon will be seeing a 3.5L, but we'll see.
Old Mar 24, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Note: When Toyota wanted to enter NASCAR, they didn't have an old style pushrod V8. So they did a study on all the current nascar V8s and then went ahead and engineered one from scratch. Uh, yeah, I *THINK* they have some money!
Old Mar 24, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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Toyota is actually building a new Huge manufacturing plant here in SA. Its gonna bring tons of jobs/houses/boost the economy/blah blah blah and all that razz-a-ma-jazz
*and the city rejoices*
Old Mar 24, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
Man, CGI guys. Avalon probably wont look anything like that....

That literally is a stretched Prius w/ minor tweaks, look at the rims, their just blown up Prius rims. Man, you guys are gullable!!

Oh, btw, i doubt they'll use a 3.5L, which they currently dont have in their stable of motors. They will either use a 3.0L DI V6 with around 240hp (i.e. new GS300 and mor likely) or the newer 3.3L with around 220hp.



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Actually, on the contrary, they already have a 3.5 in their stable. In the next redesigned Lexus GS350 will have a 3.5L in 05'. Look up in your current issue of Motor Trend of April. They already have the final production car. Now talk about horsepower threat.
Old Mar 24, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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The Avalon is ugly, it looks like a cross of a Lexus ES330 on the front and a Chrysler 300M reartail. When I look at it, it looks almost like a wagon rather a sedan.
Old Mar 25, 2004 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FanaticMadMax
Actually, on the contrary, they already have a 3.5 in their stable. In the next redesigned Lexus GS350 will have a 3.5L in 05'. Look up in your current issue of Motor Trend of April. They already have the final production car. Now talk about horsepower threat.


Actually, no. Its powered by the 3.0L Direct inection V-6 w/ 240hp and optional AWD





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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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I feel sorry for the toyota makers that are going to make that...
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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you couldnt pay me to drive that thing, its hideous
wassup with toyota the new gs350 doesnt look attractive, but on the other hand when the 05 gs350 comes out i can buy a 03 or an 04 for a cheaper price
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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i think that all the japanese auto makers got together and smoked some stupid **** which made them belive that their cars loook good when they are big and fat and ugly.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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The new Avalon vs. Maxima vs. Galant . . . .a class of awkward-looking but powerful sedans.
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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I seriously doubt that thing can keep up with even a 4th gen, i bet its over 4k lbs.
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
I seriously doubt that thing can keep up with even a 4th gen, i bet its over 4k lbs.

- plus they wont have the manual option, ill be suprised if they do...
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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It's buttugly just like all of the other Avalons.
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by charliekilo3
It's buttugly just like all of the other Avalons.
I like the styling of the 1st gen avalons actually.





heres a slightly modded one.
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisky97SE
I like the styling of the 1st gen avalons actually.





heres a slightly modded one.
That one looks okay. I still consider it ugly compared to a Camry of that generation.
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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was the older avalon and GS based on each other or even now? Im not sure if the avalon is fwd or rwd but i guess i should look.
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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Wow, that thing looks like it's the off-spring of a 6th gen and a Prius!
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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there is one phase that desribes it....and it is ....hahahahahahahahahahaha"
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