Can a contour hit 156-158 mph???
03-23-2001, 08:54 AM
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i have been speaking with one of the guys that was posting here from the contour site..
he said his 97 contour lx 5-speed can hit that speed...
he had his govenor taken off. he also said he hit 130 once in 4th....
what do you guys think???
he has a intake, svt contour exhaust and a lighten flywheel...
he said its the cars stock gearing that makes it possible..
he said his 97 contour lx 5-speed can hit that speed...
he had his govenor taken off. he also said he hit 130 once in 4th....
what do you guys think???
he has a intake, svt contour exhaust and a lighten flywheel...
he said its the cars stock gearing that makes it possible..
03-23-2001, 08:57 AM
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130 in 4th... I believe b/c my Max can do that. But over 150 in a Contour??? Doubt it unless he is spraying or has boost. Only Ford that can is the Cobra. Even the new Lightning can't, why would he thinkg a COntour can... Next thing you know a Focus will be doing a 1/4 mile in 12 secs with an intake...
03-23-2001, 08:58 AM
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anything is possible... the speedo could be way off too.
but really... I am kinda tired of these contour threads, cause it always ends up being freaking flame bait.
I'm watching though...
-Shing
but really... I am kinda tired of these contour threads, cause it always ends up being freaking flame bait.
I'm watching though...
-Shing
Originally posted by wicked1044
i have been speaking with one of the guys that was posting here from the contour site..
he said his 97 contour lx 5-speed can hit that speed...
he had his govenor taken off. he also said he hit 130 once in 4th....
what do you guys think???
he has a intake, svt contour exhaust and a lighten flywheel...
he said its the cars stock gearing that makes it possible..
i have been speaking with one of the guys that was posting here from the contour site..
he said his 97 contour lx 5-speed can hit that speed...
he had his govenor taken off. he also said he hit 130 once in 4th....
what do you guys think???
he has a intake, svt contour exhaust and a lighten flywheel...
he said its the cars stock gearing that makes it possible..
03-23-2001, 09:04 AM
#4
they are probably geared to go that high and the car has the power to get to that speed, but the guy is going to need a long stretch of road (3-4 miles) to do it. I once did the math & physics to see how much horsepower a 300ZX would need to get to 200 mph taking into account coefficient drag and what not.. the amount of power to get that fast isn't as high as everyone thinks... the limitation is the amount of space to get to those speeds.
03-23-2001, 09:11 AM
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Was it true speed or speedometer speed. I would guess at upper speeds the speedometer is pretty far off. I'm not sure if the Contour has the aerodynamics with it's available power to do that fast.
I remember in Motor Trend they did top speeds of cars and the mustangs were only able to hit 149 true speed. This was back in 1997 or 98. Then using duct tape and some plastic pieces they made the front a little more aerodynamic and they got it to 152.
But people here have claim nearly the same, so I can't say who's lying and who's telling the truth.
I remember in Motor Trend they did top speeds of cars and the mustangs were only able to hit 149 true speed. This was back in 1997 or 98. Then using duct tape and some plastic pieces they made the front a little more aerodynamic and they got it to 152.
But people here have claim nearly the same, so I can't say who's lying and who's telling the truth.
03-23-2001, 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by breaux124
Was it true speed or speedometer speed. I would guess at upper speeds the speedometer is pretty far off. I'm not sure if the Contour has the aerodynamics with it's available power to do that fast.
I remember in Motor Trend they did top speeds of cars and the mustangs were only able to hit 149 true speed. This was back in 1997 or 98. Then using duct tape and some plastic pieces they made the front a little more aerodynamic and they got it to 152.
But people here have claim nearly the same, so I can't say who's lying and who's telling the truth.
Was it true speed or speedometer speed. I would guess at upper speeds the speedometer is pretty far off. I'm not sure if the Contour has the aerodynamics with it's available power to do that fast.
I remember in Motor Trend they did top speeds of cars and the mustangs were only able to hit 149 true speed. This was back in 1997 or 98. Then using duct tape and some plastic pieces they made the front a little more aerodynamic and they got it to 152.
But people here have claim nearly the same, so I can't say who's lying and who's telling the truth.
That's not true dude. The July 1995 article of MT has a Mustang Cobra tested and it's top speed was 137mph. Then they used the $1.98 speed sectret which was just duct tape and 45psi in the tires. They were then reached a honest 140mph.
About the Contour thing, what is there gear ratios? From what you guys said above it sounds to be the same as a max. I hit 130 in 4th the other day{very briskly I might add}. I know the 95-99 max/I30's gears run out at 157mph,but to achieve that speed you better have lots of mods and a open road.
03-23-2001, 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by emax95
That's not true dude. The July 1995 article of MT has a Mustang Cobra tested and it's top speed was 137mph. Then they used the $1.98 speed sectret which was just duct tape and 45psi in the tires. They were then reached a honest 140mph.
That's not true dude. The July 1995 article of MT has a Mustang Cobra tested and it's top speed was 137mph. Then they used the $1.98 speed sectret which was just duct tape and 45psi in the tires. They were then reached a honest 140mph.
So my point was just reinforced even more.
03-23-2001, 11:14 AM
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I remember getting into a big debate with a Contour owner by the name of VtMaxx. He tried to tell his SVT can eaisly hit 160mph. I don't think people understand the kind of power it takes to hit those kind of speeds. It takes a lot of hp to go from 140 to 150mph. A 285hp Z28 is drag limited, not gear limited when it tops out at 156mph. I have a hard time believing a Maxima or SVT would come remotely close to 150+mph without some forced induction. A Maxima 5 speed with the typical mods might come close to 145mph. The SVT has about the same hp and weight as the Max, but lacks about 60 ft/lbs of torque.
Truth be told, speedometers become wildly incorrect after 120mph. At 60mph they can be off by 2mph, at 100mph off by 4mph, 140mph off by 10mph, etc.
Dave
Truth be told, speedometers become wildly incorrect after 120mph. At 60mph they can be off by 2mph, at 100mph off by 4mph, 140mph off by 10mph, etc.
Dave
03-23-2001, 11:29 AM
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LOL! How right you are Dave. I have seen people say "it must be able to go 150mph 140mph etc.. because the speedo says so!" *smack**smack*
It's really hard to get people to understand the main two things you mention:
1) The power required to make a car go from 140mph to 150mph is NOT linear. It's exponential!
2) Speedo error. Let's say at 150mph the speedo is only 5% off. That's a 7.5 mph difference +/-.
Just want to back you up on this one.
It's really hard to get people to understand the main two things you mention:
1) The power required to make a car go from 140mph to 150mph is NOT linear. It's exponential!
2) Speedo error. Let's say at 150mph the speedo is only 5% off. That's a 7.5 mph difference +/-.
Just want to back you up on this one.
Originally posted by Dave B
I remember getting into a big debate with a Contour owner by the name of VtMaxx. He tried to tell his SVT can eaisly hit 160mph. I don't think people understand the kind of power it takes to hit those kind of speeds. It takes a lot of hp to go from 140 to 150mph. A 285hp Z28 is drag limited, not gear limited when it tops out at 156mph. I have a hard time believing a Maxima or SVT would come remotely close to 150+mph without some forced induction. A Maxima 5 speed with the typical mods might come close to 145mph. The SVT has about the same hp and weight as the Max, but lacks about 60 ft/lbs of torque.
Truth be told, speedometers become wildly incorrect after 120mph. At 60mph they can be off by 2mph, at 100mph off by 4mph, 140mph off by 10mph, etc.
Dave
I remember getting into a big debate with a Contour owner by the name of VtMaxx. He tried to tell his SVT can eaisly hit 160mph. I don't think people understand the kind of power it takes to hit those kind of speeds. It takes a lot of hp to go from 140 to 150mph. A 285hp Z28 is drag limited, not gear limited when it tops out at 156mph. I have a hard time believing a Maxima or SVT would come remotely close to 150+mph without some forced induction. A Maxima 5 speed with the typical mods might come close to 145mph. The SVT has about the same hp and weight as the Max, but lacks about 60 ft/lbs of torque.
Truth be told, speedometers become wildly incorrect after 120mph. At 60mph they can be off by 2mph, at 100mph off by 4mph, 140mph off by 10mph, etc.
Dave
03-23-2001, 11:31 AM
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Truth be told, speedometers become wildly incorrect after 120mph. At 60mph they can be off by 2mph, at 100mph off by 4mph, 140mph off by 10mph, etc.
Dave [/B][/QUOTE]
Not to say that is not true but,in the MT article introducing a 95 max it said as follows,
Indicated/ actual
30mph 28mph
40mph 38mph
50mph 58mph
well you've got the idea it stayed consistantly 2 mph off up to 60mph. So what I am getting at is if it has no error{other then 2mph} from 30 to 60mph then would'nt this rule stay true throughout the speedo? I think the speedo stayes accurate throughout the speedo maybe. Just a thought I am sure I may very well be wrong.
Dave [/B][/QUOTE]
Not to say that is not true but,in the MT article introducing a 95 max it said as follows,
Indicated/ actual
30mph 28mph
40mph 38mph
50mph 58mph
well you've got the idea it stayed consistantly 2 mph off up to 60mph. So what I am getting at is if it has no error{other then 2mph} from 30 to 60mph then would'nt this rule stay true throughout the speedo? I think the speedo stayes accurate throughout the speedo maybe. Just a thought I am sure I may very well be wrong.
03-23-2001, 11:40 AM
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What!???
You mean that time I slammed on the gas while my car was on ice and the speedo pinned itself doesn't count?
And I've been telling everyone that I went over 160 in the maxima! No wonder they don't believe me.
You mean that time I slammed on the gas while my car was on ice and the speedo pinned itself doesn't count?
And I've been telling everyone that I went over 160 in the maxima! No wonder they don't believe me.
03-23-2001, 03:43 PM
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Hmmm...
A lotta valid points here...But if an intake, exhaust and a lightened flywheel is all the mods that dude has, I dunno about that speed. I mean, an SVT is prolly faster than his LX, and it's only been reported to top out at 143. Both would need much more power to hit that speed, even if his gearing allows for it. And then there's the issue of where the heck did he get the space to run that fast?!
03-23-2001, 03:53 PM
#14
Nope. No way that car hit almost 160mph. that car (along with others) are limited to the shape/size themselves.
I don't know the formula, but after like 140 or so, you would need an extra 70-80hp for EACH 5mph after that (at least in 1/4 mile times)...so
145 would be his base hp (200?) + 70 = 270hp
150 would be his base of 200? + 140hp = 340hp
155 would be his base of 200? + 210hp = 410hp
160 would be his base of 200? + 280hp = 480hp
Need I say more?
Don
I don't know the formula, but after like 140 or so, you would need an extra 70-80hp for EACH 5mph after that (at least in 1/4 mile times)...so
145 would be his base hp (200?) + 70 = 270hp
150 would be his base of 200? + 140hp = 340hp
155 would be his base of 200? + 210hp = 410hp
160 would be his base of 200? + 280hp = 480hp
Need I say more?
Don
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