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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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Who thinks the Maxima should be discontinued?

If this is a repost I apologize. But, I came across this thread when browsing the TSX forums (friend of mine is thinking of buying one).

Someone posted his/her thought on the Maxima on the Acura-TSX Forums. Of course I registered and had to put my 2 cents in.

It is a fun read nonetheless.

http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...5&pagenumber=1

Read, enjoy and defend!

Peace.
Old May 5, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Wow, I have not read this before. I read a lot of positive stuff about the engine and the Maxima. A few degroatory comment about the 6th Gen, I couldn't blame them for that. I'm pretty much feeling the same about that boat.
Old May 6, 2004 | 02:08 AM
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The Max doesn't need to be Nissan's #1 seller in order for them to keep it. Just like how the M45 won't stop being made because the Q45 sells more. They need to segment their products so:

1) they can serve a broader range of consumer needs (try taking your co-workers for a business lunch in an Alty vs a Maxima).

2) consumers can feel they saved money by going with the more expensive 3.5 Altima over the 2.5, simply because they didn't spend the extra $3k on a Max.

Pathfinder sales rose after Nissan introduced the Xterra. Having a more powerful engine and roomier interior justified the added cost over lower model SUV. If there was nothing to compare it against consumers have less of a basis as to how much is something worth.

Old May 6, 2004 | 03:09 AM
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Nothing really to defend in that thread. I think most of what they gets said on here all the time. They even seemed to know what they were talking about, unlike some other forums.
Old May 6, 2004 | 03:19 AM
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I've said it before.... Move the Max name to the new Alty, and call the new Max whatever you want!
Old May 6, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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People have negative and positive reviews about all cars. The maxima is very high on their sales anyways. I really don't think that this would be in the near future.
Old May 6, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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Check out this THREAD . It's being discussed here also.
Old May 7, 2004 | 03:18 AM
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Maxima is the Nissan flagship. I am starting to like the boat. It seems to be the fastest car stock out of all the generations which amazes me.
Old May 7, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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The one guy who says that the VQ series engines are debatable as the best V6 in the world is absolutely nuts. Honda's V6's are much too high strung, and have no real TQ to speak of. Well all know TQ is where the work gets done. What good is revving to 5200 RPM to get to your peak TQ (and before that RPM level, the TQ is absolutely pitiful) in every day slow and go traffic? Now, Honda's high end HP is beautiful, but as I mentioned, they sacrifice low end for high end (and keep smaller displacement)...
Old May 7, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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I wish Nissan would make the Max a bit smaller and sportier, keeping the VQ. Regardless, they are not about to axe it.
Old May 8, 2004 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 4dscPat
I wish Nissan would make the Max a bit smaller and sportier, keeping the VQ. Regardless, they are not about to axe it.
Thats pretty much the 350Z
Old May 8, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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I agree with some of the comments above.

The Max is the flagship so it needs to be the most luxurious, biggest, questionably fastest in a straight line. But, I think they should try and market it like a 5 or 7 series if they are going to be making it a boat!

The Altima should be their 4dsc imo. It should be as fast as the maxima but much better handling. It must have the luxury as well, kind of like the 3 or 5 series.

The Sentra should be marketed like the 1 series or 3 series and should flat out be redesigned. That is Nissan's design sorepoint. Fast in Se-r spec v form but just plain boring and ugly.

I think Nissan is doing a good thing by moving the max upmarket but it's a very hard field to play in imo. They have to make that interior THE best if they want to compete. Remember that most of maxima buyers are older and not as interested in sports suspension and handling but they do want the luxury and the power to comfortably and quickly drive from point a to point b. This obviously differs starkly from what the people on this forum want. We unfortunately are a very small percentage!

sorry to ramble.
Old May 8, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JettmiesterMax
If this is a repost I apologize. But, I came across this thread when browsing the TSX forums (friend of mine is thinking of buying one).

Someone posted his/her thought on the Maxima on the Acura-TSX Forums. Of course I registered and had to put my 2 cents in.

It is a fun read nonetheless.

http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...5&pagenumber=1

Read, enjoy and defend!

Peace.
Whether it should be discontinued or not is Nissan's call. I know that I will never buy another one. I just don't like to buy something that is rated last in its category. I'll say it again--6th gen came in 12/12 in a test of sport sedans. The price is so artificially high, but the selling price low, so you really can't compare a Maxima and TL, they simply are not similar in price. I can't imagine someone who has the money for a TL driving both cars and then settling on a Maxima, that would make no sense. What is more realistic is that someone really can't pay for the TL, or doesn't want to, and then settles on the 6th gen. That is one ugly car.
Old May 8, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by THX
The Max doesn't need to be Nissan's #1 seller in order for them to keep it. Just like how the M45 won't stop being made because the Q45 sells more. They need to segment their products so:

1) they can serve a broader range of consumer needs (try taking your co-workers for a business lunch in an Alty vs a Maxima).

2) consumers can feel they saved money by going with the more expensive 3.5 Altima over the 2.5, simply because they didn't spend the extra $3k on a Max.

Pathfinder sales rose after Nissan introduced the Xterra. Having a more powerful engine and roomier interior justified the added cost over lower model SUV. If there was nothing to compare it against consumers have less of a basis as to how much is something worth.

Not only does the max not need to be Nissan's best seller, Nissan has specifically positioned it so it won't be. They want the Altima to be the car that competes with the Accords, Camry's and other cars that are a dime a dozen. I would like to see a performance difference between the Max and Altima 3.5, like make the Max faster ... but other than that, there are plenty of features that put the Max in a class of its own.
Old May 8, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Heh, I find it funny how Nissan USA and Nissan NZ are doing the complete opposite with the Maxima. Nissan USA is trying to make the Max more appealing to the older generations, whereas Nissan NZ are trying to make the Max more appealing to the younger generations (in the past, Maximas have mainly been owned by the older generation here). If anyone saw the Ad I posted a link to for the new Maxima here, you'll see what I mean. They have a younger looking guy driving the Max rolling up to a rich snobby families home and using their PA system like it's a McDonalds drive thru, then accelerating away quickly.
Old May 8, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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I'd buy a 02 or 03 for the fit & finish or an Alti for the style. I don't care for the 04 Maximas at all and I hope they don't start using that grille that's seems to be Nissan's new theme on the Altis.

BTW, how about those guy complaining about torque steer? They just wish they had that kind of power
Old May 9, 2004 | 03:38 AM
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I think the tsx's should be axed. Not all that great in my opinon. I have 3 mod's on my car and only two of them really giving me power gain. And I can inch out my friends new stick tsx. And there's no after market for those car's at all. At least he say's. He has like and aem intake or something. I mean I'm not talking **** it's not slow but it's not 32k fast either. I've raced an orange 3.5 maxima 6th gen that's stick to and I got pulled by that. But of course that doesn't really mean anything. I guess there all right just not very high up in my book is all
Old May 9, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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maxima will and should not be axed. It has build up too good of a reputation to be axed.
Old May 9, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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I dont think they're trying to get rid of it. Over the years they have done nothing but continue to upgrade year by year, and with the introduction of the 2004 i believe the trend will continue..IMO.


...at least our cars can whoop the TSX
Old May 10, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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I hope they don't discontinue the Max. If they do, perhaps it's time to check out the G series. This is my first Max and I love my 5th gen. That's coming from a 2 door Honda V6 Coupe. I guess as you get a little older, you enjoy things like 4 doors, more interior room, etc. Don't get me wrong, Hondas are great cars and they perform very well as they were intended. They just don't appeal to me like they used to. A spoonful of VQ torque will do that to ya!
Old May 10, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
The one guy who says that the VQ series engines are debatable as the best V6 in the world is absolutely nuts. Honda's V6's are much too high strung, and have no real TQ to speak of. Well all know TQ is where the work gets done. What good is revving to 5200 RPM to get to your peak TQ (and before that RPM level, the TQ is absolutely pitiful) in every day slow and go traffic? Now, Honda's high end HP is beautiful, but as I mentioned, they sacrifice low end for high end (and keep smaller displacement)...
Quit it, you're making way too much sense.
Old May 10, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Quit it, you're making way too much sense.

You're right...I forgot it was your job to make sense
Old May 11, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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imo they should make a 4 door 350z similar to the g35 sedan and call it maxima
Old May 11, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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Maxima is the Nissan flagship. I am starting to like the boat. It seems to be the fastest car stock out of all the generations which amazes me.
uhh, that's debatable...

I say the 5.5 Gen has posted more consistently low 1/4 mile times.

(despite my horrible 14.8)

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Old May 11, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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.how about those guy complaining about torque steer? They just wish they had that kind of power

exactly, you have to have torque to have torque steer.

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Old May 12, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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IMO.......

for all i care they can discontinue it. not to discredit the VQ or anything but as of 2000 i feel the maxima is a complete downward spiral (minus the improvements of the VQ). The new generation of maximas just look like crap in my opinion since 2000 and just got even worse with 2004.

If i had to buy a car today it would be the G35. If i had to buy a roomy car it would prolly be one of these new generation 6cyl SUV wagon type things or a murano.

I would hope that they can continue to improve the cars looks. Maybe i would consider buying one again. That would make me a proud 3rd time maxima owner.
Old May 12, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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i say they reproduce the '96 maxima... fastest 4th gen 5spd

or

97-99 Maxima for the looks, lol

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Old May 12, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Or the 3rd gen, the max everyone wants
Old May 12, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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ur frineds not the only one thinking about the TSX.. im debating on weather or not to get that car and sell the max.. i already got it for sale just waiting for a grab.. if not the dealership is gonna get a max..

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Old May 13, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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Or the 3rd gen, the max everyone wants
My preference: 93-94 Maxima SE w/VQ35DE motor and 6MT!!
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