what I mean wiht that is,
the exaust of any japanese car that I know of (hondas, toyotas, nissans..) when they do some exaust work the car has a "muffled sound" on the other hand most american car like a mustangs camaros viper, lamborginis(not american) ... have a very distinc different sound.



would that be because our japanese cars have engines that work with back presure. and those cars are hemis... or something like that.
I hope you all undertand what I meant with this question, and please don't trash talkon the tread.
thanks
gui

 

Most likely because the cars you are comparing against are V-8 cars.

 

Because our cars have panzy sized bores and strokes. Also valves per cylinder and cam setup make a big difference aswell.

 

muscle cars vs imports // mostly raw power vs hidden power

 

yea seriously i was wondering the same thing. I always hear some z-28's and mustangs (yup, even V6's) accelerate and they have this wonderful low rumble, not some coarse throaty exhaust noise like civics with fartcan exhausts.

It probably has something to do with how the exhaust system is built?

I like the G35's exhaust noise as well.

 

put some cams on and run open exhaust. hehe

 

V6 camaroes and mustangs do not have a low rumble, Every engine makes a diff note all depends on the internals, Look at fearrari all there engines are very high pitched. Who says the perfect exahust note is a low rumble? Every car is different and there are so many ways to set up your exhaust, and every variation of your exahust will produce a different sound. thats my .02 and any way id rather the sound of a BOV then a low rumble

 

It also has a lot to do with cam timing and number of valves, as mentioned above.
a VG and VE 3rd gen both sound completely different, yet the bore and stroke are the same. compression is a point higher on the VE and it has another intake and exhaust valve on each cylinder... I'm sure the cam timing is different as well, but I haven't looked at them close enough to compare.

but the VE has a bit of a burble to it, something like the old school V6 camaros.. when you stomp on it, it sounds similar to an E36 M3.
the VG I have no comparison for, other than to say it sounds completely different from the VE.

The fun thing.. it's ALL in the engine. the exhaust manifolds are different, but everything else is the same from the Y pipe back. Y pipe, cat, rear section are all the same. the muffler is slightly different, but I've heard a VG with a VE muffler and they sound the same.

 

Also most of the cars you mentioned are pushrods...

 

I gave those examples so everyone could have a clear understanding of the sound I meant.

now for the final question.
CAN I HAVE THAT KIND OF SOUND ON MY 95 MAXIMA.

 

Probally displacement.

 

The reason is you're comparing a I4, I6, and V6 mutlivalve engines to V8s. The main reason the domestic V8s sound so good is the firing order of their V8s. As for the Viper V10, I've never found that be a great sounding exhaust. V10s naturally have an odd truckish noise that lacks any sportiness.

You'll never get a 4 or 6 cylinder to sound like a V8.

 

Yeah Vipers do sound like @ss when the exhaust is opened up. To me Twin Turbo Supras with an exhaust is the best sound ever.

 

Dodge's V10 sounds like a 6 banger in their Ram pickup trucks.

 

no, it is impossible. If you want the sound of a real car, buy a real car.


Matt- The wierd thing about the VE and VG is that when you run open exhaust on both of them the noise curves are identical. IE: they make the most noise by 2500rpm but die off after 3000rpm, and they sound almost identical. The VG was abit louder with open exhaust though, but really not by much.

 

A Maxima will never sound like a V8 no matter what you do with it. Dave B is correct it's the firing order that produces that great sounds for the V8s.

Viper's V10 always sounds like a UPS truck to me.

The only thing I can think of to make our cars sound a lot better is Cattman Headers. Try to find Chariot's Cattman Headers and Cattman Exhaust, probably the best setup IMO.

 

you ppl are forgeting all about the intake and rev limiter. Yes Ceaser, with his cattman full exhaust is sweet, but Steve also has the MEVI, and IMO the MEVI makes the car sound more smooth or refined...some say its more German sounding. Then think of Chris, he has a DE-K VI and an 8k redline.....totally different sound. It litterally screams.

There isnt really a set up out there to make the VQ sound like a V8, so find something that suets your taste. My $.02: dont try to make a VQwhat it isnt....If you want a V8 sound from a Nissan, get a VH45 or VK45 equipped car...or maybe a 5.6L Titan!

 

Clean your throttle body and it should louden up...

 

In this case no. You can set the firing order anyway you want, no matter what it is still going to fire once every 90* instead of once every 120*.

 

Man I know of what you speak as I spent the afternoon yesterday driving an old Smokey & the Bandit Trans Am and what a sound.

It has to do with a combination of:
1) V8 vs v6 (try listening to a 12 cylinder Jag or Ferrari - they screem not thunder)
2) displacement per cylinder
3) firing order & # of degrees between firing of cylinders.

This is also why a Harley slounds the way that it does.

We'll never get our Maximas to sound that way.... but that's not why I drive the Max.

Mr. P

 

Actually there is one. The 4.0 liter Ford V6 (160hp single cam) does indeed sound like a Mustang when you put Hedman headers and a flowmaster on it.

 

This is a factor, but not so much as you might think. The intent of the designers has a lot to do with this too. Just consider the G35, an outgrowth of the 350Z, but with a version of the VQ35 that's nearly identical to the current Maxima in hp and tq. My G has a throaty, rumbly sound that's pretty much absent from the Max. I picked a G35 over the Max primarily for the rear wheel drive, but I like its sound better than the Max as well. It was a tough choice though, both are great cars.

 

There is no replacement for discplacement and no way in the world you can make a 4 banger or V6 sound as good as a V8.

 

I gues I have to wait until I have lots of money (once I graduate from college).
then I will buy, ferraris, lambs, porshe GT3, all the goodies.

Oh well some day.
but don't worrie when I have all that money I will buy a old 95 maxima and makeit the fastest maxima in the planet, then I will donate to the maxima.org community so everone can test drive it. one day...

gui

 

You want your maxima to sound like a V8 then just do what Iron Lung did got the cams and ran a open header. Find that vid to here what that sounded like.

 

Ironlung's car didn't sound like a V8...that sounded like a F1 car.

S

 

 

That does not sound like a V8, it is impossible. A cammed V8 with only headers (long tube or shorty, either way) will make your heart thump, the more displacement, the more efficient pace maker it becomes.

I like Iron Lungs car and all, but cmon.

 

yea i always wonderd how the 350/g35 sounds like that while the new max doesnt... probally due to exhaust and other changes to the car. but yea every car sounds a certain way because the motors are different. a v6 aint gonna sound like a i6 or a v8 or a v10 or a 14 for that matter cause our motors dont work the sameway

 

just be glad they don't sound like a scooby engine. yuck.
blat blat blat blat blat

 

all in the motor; all V8s are different too in terms of sound pending on internals

example along with what matt said about the VE vs VG, notice the chevy LT1 and LS1 which are both 5.7L 350s sound slightly different - internal differences imo LS1 sounds better

 

internet must be down in FL....a certain someone hasn't responded

 

The VG doesent sound half bad...

heres a clip of mine (crap video quality, and yeah i realise my car isnt fast )

94, GXE.... Nice sounding, but a bit loud

 

That actually sounds pretty good.

 

Just be glad they aren't scooby engines slap slap slap slap slap

 

I've gotta disagree with that. Sure, the engine plays a huge role in the sound, but it's not an "all" thing. I agree that each type of engine has its own "beat" and that there's nothing you can do to change that. That said, intake and exhaust tuning play a huge part too. Again, consider how different stock 04 Maximas and G35s sound, despite having essentially the same engine. A G35 with a "Z-tube" (350Z intake) is louder and cruder sounding than stock. Consider the GM Northstar V-8, and how different it sounds in Cadillac applications vs. its new incarnation as a Pontiac Bonneville motor. Take any V-6 or V-8 (any engine at all, actually) and do before and after comparisions with a straight-pipe and then a Buick-type muffler. No, you're never going to make a Harley V-twin sound like a Jaguar V-12, but don't discount the impact that plumbing, both intake and exhaust, can have on what you hear coming from your engine room.

 

EXHAUST!!!
Slap a flowmaster exhaust on your japanese car and it will soun american. everyone who's ever heard Ant96GLE's car in person will tell you that it sound no different from a V8 mustang or camaro (maybe a bit louder).

 

I started my car with the exhaust system disconnected right after the Y-pipe. It was LLLLOOOOUUUUD....but still didn't sound like a gheyazz mustang/camaro...

 

take off cat and just have open exhaust or put on flowmaster. That is about as close as you are going to get.

 

A lot of the sound itself comes from the intake, in the video i posted above thats just with an intake, the exhuast is 100% factory (no leaks).