Matt's LTB and ES bushings installed!!!!!!
Matt's LTB and ES bushings installed!!!!!!
After a month of waiting for the right time to get these installed, it's finally done. I got all 3 sets of ES bushings and the stage II LTB. I did some aggressive driving today and I'm happy with my purchase. From reading other people's reviews, I think I may have been expecting too much from these mods, but there is certainly an improvement. The front of the car feels more solid, and road imperfections are less noticable. From my testing, the faster you go the more these mods make a difference. Steering feel is also improved and a little heavier.
My tires are pretty much bald, so at this point I think my suspension can take a lot more than the tires can deal out....if that makes sense. I took a sharp corner a little too fast at around 50 or so and the car started go off course, but a correction was easy. I'm sure that when I get new tires the improvements will be more noticable.
I'm happy that I got these, but now, aside from coilovers, there isn't anything left to do to the suspension. My car is probably riding and handling just about as well as a 4th gen can. I don't have a RSB yet, but I'm not sure it's necessary with all the stuff I have on my car now.
I don't have pics of them on my homepage, but I did update it a great deal, and have some cool info on page 6. Check it out.....
My tires are pretty much bald, so at this point I think my suspension can take a lot more than the tires can deal out....if that makes sense. I took a sharp corner a little too fast at around 50 or so and the car started go off course, but a correction was easy. I'm sure that when I get new tires the improvements will be more noticable.
I'm happy that I got these, but now, aside from coilovers, there isn't anything left to do to the suspension. My car is probably riding and handling just about as well as a 4th gen can. I don't have a RSB yet, but I'm not sure it's necessary with all the stuff I have on my car now.
I don't have pics of them on my homepage, but I did update it a great deal, and have some cool info on page 6. Check it out.....
You don't "think" an rsb is necessary but if you had one you wouldn't want to give it up. Add an rstb while you're at it. I didn't notice how much my rear end was loose (even with ST rsb AND matt's rstb) until installing the blehmco rear parallel links. Read my review in the 3rd gen forum. Just hope he starts making them for you infinity/4th/5th gen guys.
Originally Posted by anaximander
You don't "think" an rsb is necessary but if you had one you wouldn't want to give it up. Add an rstb while you're at it. I didn't notice how much my rear end was loose (even with ST rsb AND matt's rstb) until installing the blehmco rear parallel links. Read my review in the 3rd gen forum. Just hope he starts making them for you infinity/4th/5th gen guys.
Bejay, come to Maxus '05 and I'll let you tool around in my car for a little while and experience what a Maxima should handle like. 
have any of you 4th and 5th gen guys tried filling your rear suspension bushings with poly? I did that with one customer's 5th gen a few weeks ago and he noted a HUGE improvement in the rear end sticking to the ground... only did it because Nissan doesn't sell the bushings new, and his had torn and was leaking fluid. (stupid fluid filled bushings. they're nice and squishy, but insane $$ to repalce)

have any of you 4th and 5th gen guys tried filling your rear suspension bushings with poly? I did that with one customer's 5th gen a few weeks ago and he noted a HUGE improvement in the rear end sticking to the ground... only did it because Nissan doesn't sell the bushings new, and his had torn and was leaking fluid. (stupid fluid filled bushings. they're nice and squishy, but insane $$ to repalce)
Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
4th gens don't have an independent rear suspension, so 4th gens don't have parallel links, so 4th gens can't experience blehmco upgraded parallel links. 

look at the videos of why Nissan designed it the way they did and it makes a lot of sense. of course, the entire thing is slanted more towards decent handling while maintaining ride comfort and still being cheap to produce...... the video plainly says that independent rear suspension is better, but not without pouring tons of money in it and using stiff springs.. use the beam and you can keep the rear wheels planted on the ground while the rest of the car tosses and turns. (the way I see it is 150+lb of unsprung weight!)
Originally Posted by spirilis
4th and 5th gens use solid dead axle-beam.
6th gen (2004+) and 3rd gen (1st/2nd too?) use independent rear suspension.
6th gen (2004+) and 3rd gen (1st/2nd too?) use independent rear suspension.
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
look at the videos of why Nissan designed it the way they did and it makes a lot of sense. of course, the entire thing is slanted more towards decent handling while maintaining ride comfort and still being cheap to produce...... the video plainly says that independent rear suspension is better, but not without pouring tons of money in it and using stiff springs.. use the beam and you can keep the rear wheels planted on the ground while the rest of the car tosses and turns. (the way I see it is 150+lb of unsprung weight!)
Originally Posted by spirilis
which bushings are you referring to?
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
look at the videos of why Nissan designed it the way they did and it makes a lot of sense. of course, the entire thing is slanted more towards decent handling while maintaining ride comfort and still being cheap to produce...... the video plainly says that independent rear suspension is better, but not without pouring tons of money in it and using stiff springs.. use the beam and you can keep the rear wheels planted on the ground while the rest of the car tosses and turns. (the way I see it is 150+lb of unsprung weight!)

http://www.maxmatrix.com/?c=nissan+videos+%E2%80%A2
(bottom of the page)
Ok, after driving around more I got a better feel of the mods. These make me realize just how bald my tires are, so I'm looking to get new ones very soon. However, driving the car on back roads made me realize that the car felt better the faster I went. The front end is real planted, and sudden movements/corrections are easy. If my gauge cluster worked, I'd be willing to say that the car feels as stable at 70 mph as it does at 120. I can't wait till the new tires are on and I can really see what this car can do....
Originally Posted by soundmike
I've got the video hosted on my site 
http://www.maxmatrix.com/?c=nissan+videos+%E2%80%A2
(bottom of the page)

http://www.maxmatrix.com/?c=nissan+videos+%E2%80%A2
(bottom of the page)
Originally Posted by BEJAY1
Yeah, I'm gonna pulling mine apart this morning. I see 2 bushings on the lateral link, one small one on the control rod, and the 2 on the trailing arms. I WD40'd em a few weeks ago and none looked liquid filled. A couple Sentra guys said the NISMO bushings made a big difference; but I don't have FSM's and specs on theirs to compare. This is their kit.
The bushing on the rear trailing arm are liquid filled. I've replaced those bushings with Cattman's groupdeal on Energy Suspension ES7108 Rear trailing arm set 2000-03 Maxima - $64.95 (MSRP $95). These bushings do make a difference in the handling of the car. I have a writeup that Polo is hosting for me:
http://polo.lxanyc.com/2002MaximaSE/...ngArmBushings/
steve...
Originally Posted by BEJAY1
Yeah, I'm gonna pulling mine apart this morning. I see 2 bushings on the lateral link, one small one on the control rod, and the 2 on the trailing arms. I WD40'd em a few weeks ago and none looked liquid filled. A couple Sentra guys said the NISMO bushings made a big difference; but I don't have FSM's and specs on theirs to compare. This is their kit.


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