Hawk pads seem to be good to get for use for sporty driving for street use.

Do you think the Hawk HPS or HP plus is good? I've seen comments about HPS+ but I'm wondering which one does that refer to.

 

There is no HPS+... there is HPS and HP+. If you aren't racing on a road course get the HPS.

 

HPS= High performance street. good all-around pad for street and auto X use.
somewhat equivalent to Axxis MetalMaster.

HP+ = higher temp pad. use for track days on lighter braking tracks.
Similar to Axxis Ultimate.

 

I'm still trying to decide between HPS and Greenstuff.

Anyone want to comment one way or the other?

 

I'm also looking at Hawk HPS pads. I'm deciding between those and Performance Friction Carbon Metallics for 2K4 front brakes.

Anyone tried the above two on their cars? Which is better performance-wise for street use? Dusting characteristics aren't important to me. Hawk pads are nearly double the price of Performance Friction pads so I'd like to know if its "worth" the jump.

 

I have had Hawk HPS brake pads on my 2K Max and i like them alot. Brake dusting is more than stock as far as i could tell, but overall i really liked them alot.
I would recommend - but i also have never used any other types of brake improvements so thats just my .02 cents

 

i've used hawk HPS, I don't like the pedal feel with the type of pad material they are using. I opted for ferodo pads later on and they are cheaper in price, better quality, and feel better IMO

www.raceshopper.com (they carry multiple brands)
excellent shipping and customer service

 

I just got a quote from them for the Ferodo pads: $100 just for the fronts

Are they really twice as good as most other performance pads?

 

The ferodos were $100 and the hawks are $110 (AP CP5200 caliper)

So I opted for the ferodo. They dust like crazy, but the brake pedal feel and stopping are excellent. Read up on the ferodo part on their site, something about the pads always remaining a certain coefficient of friction between the pad and the rotor. Also IMO, the material on the pad looks to be less likely to eat away at the rotors than the hawks (no hands on evidence of this however)

 

The hawks for the max are $55-65 for the front from tirerack. I don't know anything about ferodo street pads, but I have friends that run their race pads on a few Honda Challenge NASA race cars and they are happy with them. I would assume their street pads to be very good likewise, but for a person just wanting a little better stopping power for the street, I don't see any point in spending almost 2x as much.

 

For 2K4 front brakes, the only performance brake pads I can find are Hawk HPS ($82 from tirerack.com, Performance Friction ($43 on autozone.com), and AXXIS Metal Masters ($58 on partsamerica.com).

Back when I had my Integra I ran both Hawk HPS and Ferodo Selectra (not sure if the DS2500 compound supercede these pads because it was many years ago). The Hawks as I remembered it had better initial bite and provided increased pedal firmness over the Ferodos. I've had Axxis Metal Masters on the same car too and it didn't compare to the other pads so thats why I'm not looking into Axxis MM again for 2K4 brakes.

When the need to scrub off 30mph on the freeway in "oh ****" braking situations, IMO OE Nissan, Raybestos QS suck in this regard. I may lean towards Performance Friction because after some searching on this site and google there are a lot of praise for these pads... plus they are the cheapest and Im willing to try something new. And yes I know tires have a huge influence in stopping performance and I already have those covered.

 

I have HP+ front and used to have stock rears. This was an excellent combo, the rears would lock just before the fronts. Just remember that the HP+ need to be warmed up for maximum performance. When cold, they're just like any other pads. Oh yeah, they groan when warm.

I recently switched my rears to Axxis Metal Master and these suck big time compared to the stock rears. Don't get the MM for the rears (maybe they're good in the fronts). Anyways, I can't get my rears to lock unless I'm doing something stupid with the fronts.

Jae

 

I don't like Axxis metal master at all. They are just too noisy when they get warmed up. I don't mind groan but they were more of a high pitch squeech.

 

i'm just wary of metal compounds like the metal masters because they eat through rotors. I remember looking at the pad material and it looked like scrap metal wedged in there

 

I thought all late model cars now use semi-metallic.

 

autozone.com mistakenly lists the Performance Friction pad #s for the 2004+ Maximas with 2002-2003 Maxima part #s so these pads aren't even available

The Axxis info on partsmamerica.com may be wrong too but I doesn't matter since I'd choose Hawk HPS over them anyway.

I went ahead and purchased the Hawk HPS pads.

 

i'm not sure about this. However I just like the way the stock pads "look" less aggressive than the metal masters... whether they are actually semi metallic or not

 

I think I'm gonna go with the Hawk HPS pads, and get some SS brake lines, and see if that is enough to improve the marginal OEM brakes. If not, then I'm going to Blehmco for the Z brake upgrade.

 

The Ferodo DS2500 are now my pad of choice for the street. Very little rotor wear and excellent performance. I also use them at the track on the ones that don't chew up pads. (Motorsport Ranch and Texas World Speedway). on really hard braking tracks like Hallett, I'll bump up wo the Wilwood E or H if it's REALLY hot.. but the H are pretty hard on rotors..

For the street, I used to use Wilwood Q- which I think are basically Raybestos Quiet Stop.. (wilwood's pads are made by Raybestos, and why would they make a Q series ceramic-enhanced pad when all the rest of theirs are a,b,c,d,e semi-metallics? sounds to me like it's their Quiet Stop compound.)

But after using the DS2500 for a few months on the street, I like them a LOT. They dust pretty bad, but it's worth it to be able to stuff my foot into the pedal and know exactly how the car is going to stop, EVERY time. hot or cold they feel the same and brake the same. very pleased with them.

 

Matt, where can I buy the Ferodo DS2500 pads. LMK

 

Try clicking on Larrio's link.

 

Thanks for the informative posts from those who are using the brake pads. Looks like I'm gonna go with the Ferodos.

 

Looks like raceshopper.com only carries the front Ferodo DS2500. Does a rear DS2500 even exist? What kind of performance characteristic can I expect from using the Ferodo in front and Hawk HPS in the back? For the people running with DS2500, what's a good pad to use for the rears?