Possibility of 4.0 maxima?
01-26-2005, 05:47 PM
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Possibility of 4.0 maxima?
Not sure if it was talked about, but what are the odds of use seeing a 4.0 maxima in the near future. I saw that the new pathfinders have 4.0 liter engines.
01-26-2005, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Devils Fan
Not sure if it was talked about, but what are the odds of use seeing a 4.0 maxima in the near future. I saw that the new pathfinders have 4.0 liter engines.
01-26-2005, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Devils Fan
Not sure if it was talked about, but what are the odds of use seeing a 4.0 maxima in the near future. I saw that the new pathfinders have 4.0 liter engines.
Putting the Pathfinder motor in the Maxima = 5 more HP, 36 more ft.-lbs. torque, and worse emissions. No way. Odds are about as good as the Pats winning the Super Bowl! Or the Devils winning another Cup.
01-26-2005, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by theMax
There is a 4.3L rebuild kit for the VQ for about 10K.
Only it isnt a rebuild kit and it isn't 4.3 liters.
It requires VERY extensive machine work and there are two sizes to choose from. One is 4.2 liters and the other is 4.4 liters.
01-26-2005, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
My hunch is that with Nissans being hard enough to move off the lots (here we go again, Titan out in the 2nd year, REBATES. Altima, REBATES. Maxima, REBATES. Shift_Resale? No, S**T resale. Actually, there are 2, yes two, Nissan models that don't have a rebate right now, and that is the Murano and 350Z. Can you believe the brand-new Pathfinder qualifies for a $500 college rebate? And the Mexican Sentra, $2000 rebate. Yes Virginia, Nissan's lists are artificially inflated. They are designed to be sold with rebates. Too bad for anyone who buys one without, because they can subtract the rebate right out of their trade-in value after 1 year.) What would be the purpose of a 4 liter? More hp, more expensive, harder to sell, and still FWD. I'd make a gentleman's wager the car gets discontinued before the motor gets larger.
Putting the Pathfinder motor in the Maxima = 5 more HP, 36 more ft.-lbs. torque,
and worse emissions. No way.
Odds are about as good as the Pats winning the Super Bowl! Or the Devils winning another Cup.
01-26-2005, 08:05 PM
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Why would they make all the room for a 4L when all they would have to do is tweak the 3.5L to make the same HP as the g? They could easily get an extra 30 HP out of the 3.5 with a little minor modification. They squeezed out an extra 10 for the 6thgen without changing much. They could do a new IM, exhaust, ECU.
01-26-2005, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mdloops
Why would they make all the room for a 4L when all they would have to do is tweak the 3.5L to make the same HP as the g? They could easily get an extra 30 HP out of the 3.5 with a little minor modification. They squeezed out an extra 10 for the 6thgen without changing much. They could do a new IM, exhaust, ECU.
01-26-2005, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Pretty much 4.0-4.5 liters is as far as it will ever go. The VQ40DE isn't even the same block and almost could have been called something else.
Thankfully, Nissan didn’t neglect the engine on the new model, featuring an all-new tall-block version of the VQ-series V-6. With a nearly 10mm increase in stroke over the VQ35, the still-oversquare VQ40DE cranks out a V-8-like 270 horsepower at 5,600 rpm, and 291 lbs./ft. of torque at 4,000 rpm. The only transmission available with the Pathfinder is a version of the Titan and Armada’s 5-speed automatic. Fuel economy figures are the same as the ’04 model, at 15/21 city/highway for the 4x4 model, and 16/23 for the two-wheel-drive version.
Now with this information it says a all new tall block version. this may mean that the block was just lengthen. it is still VQ technology. now with 3.5 heads the compression could be raised. just like the 3.0 heads and 3.5 block.
I think it would be possible.
01-26-2005, 08:23 PM
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[QUOTE=Frank Fontaine]My hunch is that with Nissans being hard enough to move off the lots (here we go again, Titan out in the 2nd year, REBATES. Altima, REBATES. Maxima, REBATES. Shift_Resale? No, S**T resale. Actually, there are 2, yes two, Nissan models that don't have a rebate right now, and that is the Murano and 350Z. Can you believe the brand-new Pathfinder qualifies for a $500 college rebate? And the Mexican Sentra, $2000 rebate. Yes Virginia, Nissan's lists are artificially inflated. They are designed to be sold with rebates. Too bad for anyone who buys one without, because they can subtract the rebate right out of their trade-in value after 1 year.)
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thats why you buy your cars cash, you can get a way better deal than with any rebate
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thats why you buy your cars cash, you can get a way better deal than with any rebate
01-26-2005, 08:26 PM
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My only point is that once you stray from the original block dimensions you should consider changing the name as well. Yes it shares much of the older VQ technology but this one is vastly different from the earlier VQs. And it is probably too tall to fit in the A34 chassis.
01-26-2005, 08:33 PM
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do you agree that the VQ30 and VQ35 are different. Well what could be the big difference between the VQ35 and theVQ40? the length of the block. I'm just talking about using the block write now. I'll have to do more research on the heads. because of the computer control.
01-26-2005, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Your entire post is meaningless. Go educate yourself with some meaningful info. www.nissannews.com . Someday you might understand that Nissan Motor Company now has among the very highest profit margins for auto manufacturers. And their sales growth percentage was higher than ANY other manufacturer in the US last year.
This has already been done once. The Maxima just got a more powerful version of the VQ35 than the Pathfinder.
Only Honda Motor Company had a cleaner vehicle lineup than Nissan in the US market for 2003. Now 80% of Nissan vehicles in this country qualify as ULEV. Therefore you're wrong again.
The Pats are going to win the SB. Philly just isn't good enough to beat them.
This has already been done once. The Maxima just got a more powerful version of the VQ35 than the Pathfinder.
Only Honda Motor Company had a cleaner vehicle lineup than Nissan in the US market for 2003. Now 80% of Nissan vehicles in this country qualify as ULEV. Therefore you're wrong again.
The Pats are going to win the SB. Philly just isn't good enough to beat them.
If Nissan has an excellent margin, a point with which I agree, that's great for Nissan, not the consumer. Or are you saying that's somehow good for the consumer? The fact that they can offer a $2000 rebate on a car that costs as little as the Sentra does, or $1500 on a 4 cyl. Altima, supports the great margin theory. The list is artificially high. That's how sales tend to work, you offer a discount off of a high price, to get a consumer to bite.
As I said, EVERY model of Nissan currently has a rebate on it, including the brand-new Pathfinder, except the 350Z and Murano. Name one other car co. that does that. Good luck, and happy rebates.
01-26-2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
My hunch is that with Nissans being hard enough to move off the lots (here we go again, Titan out in the 2nd year, REBATES. Altima, REBATES. Maxima, REBATES. Shift_Resale? No, S**T resale. Actually, there are 2, yes two, Nissan models that don't have a rebate right now, and that is the Murano and 350Z. Can you believe the brand-new Pathfinder qualifies for a $500 college rebate? And the Mexican Sentra, $2000 rebate. Yes Virginia, Nissan's lists are artificially inflated. They are designed to be sold with rebates. Too bad for anyone who buys one without, because they can subtract the rebate right out of their trade-in value after 1 year.) What would be the purpose of a 4 liter? More hp, more expensive, harder to sell, and still FWD. I'd make a gentleman's wager the car gets discontinued before the motor gets larger.
Putting the Pathfinder motor in the Maxima = 5 more HP, 36 more ft.-lbs. torque, and worse emissions. No way. Odds are about as good as the Pats winning the Super Bowl! Or the Devils winning another Cup.
Putting the Pathfinder motor in the Maxima = 5 more HP, 36 more ft.-lbs. torque, and worse emissions. No way. Odds are about as good as the Pats winning the Super Bowl! Or the Devils winning another Cup.
01-27-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT
I hope it comes with a 4.0 as an option soon and it probubly will.
The altima has a 3.5 now and its a tiny bit faster than the max, i always thougth the maxima was the top sedan!!
The altima has a 3.5 now and its a tiny bit faster than the max, i always thougth the maxima was the top sedan!!
01-27-2005, 07:49 PM
#34
No it did not
Originally Posted by liqidvenom
well the xterra or somthing had a s/c vq and that never made it into a max so therer's nothing saying that a 4.0vq is gonna land into the max.
01-28-2005, 05:47 AM
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What's so interesting about Nissan design philosophy is that they seem to experiment at the production level (not just with styling). What I mean is look at the difference between the 1999, 2000, 2002, 2004 Maximas as far as the motor goes. Release now, refine later.
Did you know that there is a 2005 330i performance package that goes 155 mph? Does 0-60 in 5.9, and it's not even M? That's the German way--it's all in there, just a question of whether it should be unleashed. Japan unleashes it even if the chassis isn't up to snuff. The 4th gen already can do in excess of 130 mph without any chassis to back it up. Now the Max is up to what, 265 hp with no chassis to back it up, how much more does anyone want?
Then again, I know, the audience is not sophisticated. They slap a round LED into the stock tailamps and say look, LED tails! Who cares if the driver behind knows whether the car in front is braking or why the lamps are crooked on one side with dual exhausts. BMW has adaptive brake lamps standard on the 325 base model, where engineering actually went into them (cool, leds!). But their engineers forgot the fake dual exhausts.
Did you know that there is a 2005 330i performance package that goes 155 mph? Does 0-60 in 5.9, and it's not even M? That's the German way--it's all in there, just a question of whether it should be unleashed. Japan unleashes it even if the chassis isn't up to snuff. The 4th gen already can do in excess of 130 mph without any chassis to back it up. Now the Max is up to what, 265 hp with no chassis to back it up, how much more does anyone want?
Then again, I know, the audience is not sophisticated. They slap a round LED into the stock tailamps and say look, LED tails! Who cares if the driver behind knows whether the car in front is braking or why the lamps are crooked on one side with dual exhausts. BMW has adaptive brake lamps standard on the 325 base model, where engineering actually went into them (cool, leds!). But their engineers forgot the fake dual exhausts.
01-28-2005, 07:05 AM
#36
Hey there are honda accords that are 2 door FWD. Hey i could dream can i. Same goes for the BMW 2 and 4 door. Ok i think i really pushed it with the turbo. How about 4 door maxima with RWD. Thats about it.....TURBO!
01-28-2005, 03:21 PM
#39
A rwd 2-dr maxima is here. It's call the M35. You want a rwd 4.0 maxima? It's call the M45. 
SR, who did the 4.0 maxima swap??
IMHO, if the next gen max uses the Altima/murano chassis, I could see a 4.0 V6 IF it's also awd.
SR, who did the 4.0 maxima swap??
IMHO, if the next gen max uses the Altima/murano chassis, I could see a 4.0 V6 IF it's also awd.