Alignment. More Dealership Problems.
#1
Alignment. More Dealership Problems.
I have a 2004 Maxima SL. It is a four-speed automatic because I got it early. Anyway, I brought the car to a dealer because the wheel pulled to the left when I braked or accelerated. After a dispute with the dealer, I ended up with two new front struts (under warranty) and a realignment (that I had to pay for). The dealer found no other problems.
The car still drives weird, as if it wasn't aligned properly. When I brake, the steering wheel pulls to the left. When I speed up, the steering wheel pulls. When the wheel is straight, the car goes to the left. I feel this is an alignment problem of some sort.
Furthermore, the car sounds "off". They cleaned the throttle and I think that they might have weirded things up.
Should I bring the car back into the dealer and have them check it out again? That particular dealer keeps doing unwanted stuff. How can I stop them from doing that? Can I bring the car to another dealer for the work? I mean, the alignment and throttle problem should be covered by the dealer as warranty for their work (not the warranty of the car).
Thanks.
The car still drives weird, as if it wasn't aligned properly. When I brake, the steering wheel pulls to the left. When I speed up, the steering wheel pulls. When the wheel is straight, the car goes to the left. I feel this is an alignment problem of some sort.
Furthermore, the car sounds "off". They cleaned the throttle and I think that they might have weirded things up.
Should I bring the car back into the dealer and have them check it out again? That particular dealer keeps doing unwanted stuff. How can I stop them from doing that? Can I bring the car to another dealer for the work? I mean, the alignment and throttle problem should be covered by the dealer as warranty for their work (not the warranty of the car).
Thanks.
#2
yes. if you don't belive it was repaired properly.take it back and make sure everything is documented. its best to have these problems taken care of while you still have manufactures warranty. If they cannot resolve the problem you maybe entitled to lemon law buy back. don't let the dealership screw you around.
#6
First of all, why would you have to pay for an alignment, that is, if your car were under 12k? I had mine done 3X until they got it right. If they don't want to provide a print out showing that the specs are in range, then imho they have to align the car based on your observation. There is some truth to the crown in the road theory. Go to Canada where there are no crowns going into Montreal. Your car that pulls in NYC might track straight there.
It's good to know that Nissan hasn't improved their customer service in 7 years. When my car was brand new, the dealer that sold me the car said "don't go by the Nissan logo on the steering wheel." Mine was clearly off-center at 300 miles. I took it to another dealer in the area and they said take it back where you bought it, we're not getting stuck if Nissan doesn't pay us for the warranty work. I almost got into fisticuffs with a svc. adjustor in Metro Phila. when he told me that at 26k (go back to where you bought it for warr. work, which was in nY). When he threatened to call the police I backed-off, but I Nextel'd a coworker and said rude things about the dealership over my speakerphone in front of other customers and staff, so he gave me my keys back. A sales guy even told him to his face that he was wrong.
Shift = SH**!
It's good to know that Nissan hasn't improved their customer service in 7 years. When my car was brand new, the dealer that sold me the car said "don't go by the Nissan logo on the steering wheel." Mine was clearly off-center at 300 miles. I took it to another dealer in the area and they said take it back where you bought it, we're not getting stuck if Nissan doesn't pay us for the warranty work. I almost got into fisticuffs with a svc. adjustor in Metro Phila. when he told me that at 26k (go back to where you bought it for warr. work, which was in nY). When he threatened to call the police I backed-off, but I Nextel'd a coworker and said rude things about the dealership over my speakerphone in front of other customers and staff, so he gave me my keys back. A sales guy even told him to his face that he was wrong.
Shift = SH**!
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Originally Posted by willdotcom
I brought the car to a dealer because the wheel pulled to the left when I braked or accelerated.
The car still drives weird, as if it wasn't aligned properly. When I brake, the steering wheel pulls to the left. When I speed up, the steering wheel pulls. When the wheel is straight, the car goes to the left.
The car still drives weird, as if it wasn't aligned properly. When I brake, the steering wheel pulls to the left. When I speed up, the steering wheel pulls. When the wheel is straight, the car goes to the left.
The 6th gen is known to have bad torque steer, so the pull while accelerating might be sort of normal.
What tires are on the car?
#8
I could certainly be wrong, but the acceleration part of what you're describing sounds a lot like torque steer, particularly since the symptoms persisted after the alignment. Although the Maxima is still a great car, it is afflicted with a particularly noticeable case of TS. Personally, I've always been exceptionally sensitive to steering feel and balance, and TS is the primary reason I drive a rear wheel drive G35 instead of a Max. A lot of people who've never driven RWD don't appreciate how much influence power delivery has on steering. You might try driving a G sedan just for comparison sake -- virtually the same engine, similar emphasis in driveline design (different mechanicals, of course), similar vehicle weight. I test drove a Max too when I ultimately bought the G, and I loved the Max (way more stuff per $), except for the steering. If you punch the gas in a G, it does one thing: it takes off like a rocket in exactly and only the direction you point it. Sadly, that's not the case in the Max.
#9
Torque Steer?
I have 16.5 K on the vehicle. At first I thought it was torque steer, but the steering pulls to the left severely when I brake to a complete, straight stop. I have to pull the wheel slightly to the right to keep the car straight. I got the car aligned outside of Nissan about a month ago. The problem was still there so I brought it to the dealership. The problem is the same no matter where I drive the car, even on straight, new roads--both ways. I'm baffled.
I have the stock Continentals on the car. The tires are all properly inflated. I will try rotating the tires around and see if the tilt follows it around. That sounds like a good suggestion.
I have the stock Continentals on the car. The tires are all properly inflated. I will try rotating the tires around and see if the tilt follows it around. That sounds like a good suggestion.
#10
Originally Posted by Torkaholic
I could certainly be wrong, but the acceleration part of what you're describing sounds a lot like torque steer, particularly since the symptoms persisted after the alignment. Although the Maxima is still a great car, it is afflicted with a particularly noticeable case of TS. Personally, I've always been exceptionally sensitive to steering feel and balance, and TS is the primary reason I drive a rear wheel drive G35 instead of a Max. A lot of people who've never driven RWD don't appreciate how much influence power delivery has on steering. You might try driving a G sedan just for comparison sake -- virtually the same engine, similar emphasis in driveline design (different mechanicals, of course), similar vehicle weight. I test drove a Max too when I ultimately bought the G, and I loved the Max (way more stuff per $), except for the steering. If you punch the gas in a G, it does one thing: it takes off like a rocket in exactly and only the direction you point it. Sadly, that's not the case in the Max.
Still, I cannot fathom why everyone is speculating. When the vehicle goes on the alignment rack, it spits out a report when the tech is done. Why not look at that paper instead of guessing what's wrong?
#11
Originally Posted by willdotcom
...the steering pulls to the left severely when I brake to a complete, straight stop. I have to pull the wheel slightly to the right to keep the car straight.
Originally Posted by willdotcom
...Should I bring the car back into the dealer and have them check it out again? That particular dealer keeps doing unwanted stuff. How can I stop them from doing that? Can I bring the car to another dealer for the work? I mean, the alignment and throttle problem should be covered by the dealer as warranty for their work (not the warranty of the car).
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