Odometer Fraud
Odometer Fraud
ok so my 96 MAxima was bought from some scum bag dealership who had turned back the odometer. I looked on carfax and figured it out. The cars last inspection was in 2002 and had 94k miles on it, averaging 36k miles a year. My odometer when i bought it read 92k miles. So it's obvious that this was a victim of fraud, and im guessing the car is about up to 150k miles. But i was wondering, when trying to sell/trade in a car with odometer fraud, would a dealership not take it or what?
Can you not research all the inspections since day 1? What do you mean by averaging 36 K miles a year? If the odometer read 94 K in 2002, that would make the car 6 - 7 years old and it would be averaging say 94/6.5 = 14.5 K per year.
Perhaps its the 2002 figure that is incorrect.
Perhaps its the 2002 figure that is incorrect.
well on carfax for each inspection the car was reported at a little over 36k miles each time. When i discussed this with the dealer they admitted to rolling it back and offered me money off if i still bought it. Also yes the numbers seem a bit off. i was jsut wondering how to get rid of a car that has been rolled back when you have to, seeing as most people wouldnt buy one.
Originally Posted by dookie2365
ok so my 96 MAxima was bought from some scum bag dealership who had turned back the odometer. I looked on carfax and figured it out. The cars last inspection was in 2002 and had 94k miles on it, averaging 36k miles a year. My odometer when i bought it read 92k miles. So it's obvious that this was a victim of fraud, and im guessing the car is about up to 150k miles. But i was wondering, when trying to sell/trade in a car with odometer fraud, would a dealership not take it or what?
A dealership can tell if you have 150k or so on you car. Even if your ODO said 95k and it had 150k, believe me, they can tell. Who cares about Carfax? They are inaccurate, no ifs, ands, or buts. Just another way to provide a useless and unnecessary service, to those who are willing to pay. If you want carfax, you might as well invest in life insurance, credit card protection, and buy a ronco showtime rotisserie grill while you're at it. Oh, and a Dyson vacuum.
Originally Posted by dookie2365
i was jsut wondering how to get rid of a car that has been rolled back when you have to, seeing as most people wouldnt buy one.
buying a car with a rolled-back odo for daily use =
i bought it still because they gave me money off and i wound up getting it for $4,000 with execllent interior exterior tranny and engine ive never had a problems, i didnt so much ask 4 your opinions on why i bought it i asked for help on what to do if i decided ot sell/trade it in. thanks to everyone that helped.
Originally Posted by dookie2365
i bought it still because they gave me money off and i wound up getting it for $4,000 with execllent interior exterior tranny and engine ive never had a problems, i didnt so much ask 4 your opinions on why i bought it i asked for help on what to do if i decided ot sell/trade it in. thanks to everyone that helped.
Originally Posted by Phil75070
When you sell or trade you sign a form stating that the mileage on the odometer is accurate. If you do sign for an inaccurate reading that is considered odometer fraud and is a federal offense!
He committed no offense in signing for the mileage shown when he took delivery of the car. He was told, however, that the mileage was rolled back and the dealer incentivized him to accept it. When he turns around and sells or trades in the car he is potentially liable for Federal and/or State penalties to include fines and/or imprisonment if he signs a false statement. There is a place on the form you can check if the odometer reading is NOT the actual mileage.
Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
A dealership can tell if you have 150k or so on you car. Even if your ODO said 95k and it had 150k, believe me, they can tell. Who cares about Carfax? They are inaccurate, no ifs, ands, or buts. Just another way to provide a useless and unnecessary service, to those who are willing to pay. If you want carfax, you might as well invest in life insurance, credit card protection, and buy a ronco showtime rotisserie grill while you're at it. Oh, and a Dyson vacuum.
hey i resent that.....its so simple....just SET IT AND.....
Carfax kept me from buying a lemon. I put a down payment on a car (from Nissan Dealer). Went home and did a carfax. Car came up as a Dealer buy(LEMON) back for the Sate of New Jersey. Dealer never mentioned it. It would have shown up on the title, if I continued with the purchase.
All I can say is that this thread is completely pointless. Obviously you KNEW that the odometer was rolled back prior to you purchasing the car, YET you chose to..cause a 96 maxima for $4000 was that great a steal
Now you want to know how to offload that same car on someone else. I will and no one else on here will be party to you getting rid of a car that could be a problem (key word is COULD).
If the car is in as great a condition as you say...then keep it..and don't worry about selling it.
Now you want to know how to offload that same car on someone else. I will and no one else on here will be party to you getting rid of a car that could be a problem (key word is COULD).If the car is in as great a condition as you say...then keep it..and don't worry about selling it.
Originally Posted by MaximaPolak
Take them to court...make some money off those bastards 

Maxima Owner: Good Morning your Honor, I bought a car I knew was rolled back, and now I want to sue them.
Judge: What are you wasting my time for?
Maxima Owner: Um......I thought.......
Judge: You thought wrong, Case dismissed and please don't waste my time with these types of crap again. Make sure you pay your court fees on the way out.
who cares, there's not much difference between 95k and 150k mi on a car that is 9 yrs old. Having said that, even if he will mark his title as odo reading is off, he will have no problem selling his nice and clean 4th gen for 2 grand, anytime of the day.
Originally Posted by dookie2365
ok so my 96 MAxima was bought from some scum bag dealership who had turned back the odometer. I looked on carfax and figured it out. The cars last inspection was in 2002 and had 94k miles on it, averaging 36k miles a year. My odometer when i bought it read 92k miles. So it's obvious that this was a victim of fraud, and im guessing the car is about up to 150k miles. But i was wondering, when trying to sell/trade in a car with odometer fraud, would a dealership not take it or what?
Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
...A dealership can tell if you have 150k or so on you car. Even if your ODO said 95k and it had 150k, believe me, they can tell...
I tend to disagree
Originally Posted by nubiannupe
Frank, I'm not trying to start nothing, but how do you know that a dealer can tell??
I tend to disagree
Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
If you disagree, you're implying that dealerships can get duped by consumers who tamper with their ODO's. I highly doubt that is the case, because the dealer is looking to make money on the sale of the new car, and the retail sale of the trade-in or wholesaling of that vehicle. One simple way to estimate mileage is by looking at the condition of the brake pedal, or any of the other rubber parts such as bushings, boots, etc. When people commit fraud, they try to take tens of thousands of miles off, and that usually doesn't work with people in the car business. Whatever your occupation may be, can a lay person easily rip you off? Unlikely... 

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