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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Trap speed?

Just curious what trap speeds most of you guys are hittin here is my most recent run at a poor track. It was my fastest NA trap so far.


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60 2.049
330 5.838
660 8.941 78.86
1000 11.638
1/4 13.893 @103.65
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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115mph last time i was at the track. 102.34 in my old car.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TILLEYS99
Just curious what trap speeds most of you guys are hittin here is my most recent run at a poor track. It was my fastest NA trap so far.


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60 2.049
330 5.838
660 8.941 78.86
1000 11.638
1/4 13.893 @103.65
well my best ever was a 13.82 @ 100.26

neals had a 102 at his best i believe ,i believe yours is the fastest ive ever seen NA in a 4th gen
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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My highest trap was 92.05 stock last year

Looking to get an extra 10+mph this year.

3.0 N/A record: 102 mph (Neal)
3.5 N/A record: 108 mph (SR20)
Boosted: 122 mph (Hal)
Boosted + juice: 125 mph (Hal)

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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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dang i run 87mph in my (stock) crapomatic
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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90.91mph with my old 3rd gen
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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14.7@93.19mph
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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fastest i trapped with y-pipe and ecu was 15.041@92.09 mph. not so fast, but better than 15.469@89.76 when stock.

i have to work on my 60 ft times
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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What were your 60'. Also 89 mph is REALLY low for a stock 4th gen 5-speed, did you check your knock sensor code? Your times seem inline with your trap speeds but not your mods.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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i did notice for the mods i have, its not really that fast at all, i already replaced my knock sensor and i have no codes in the ECU, im not sure why i trap low speeds and run high quarter mile times, from just a y-pipe and ECU, i was expecting to run at least in the high 14's maybe even lower 14's, im really disappointed and not sure what the problem might be. always in the back of my mind, and when im driving my car, i always feel that something is not right, even tho my car feels lively and quick, it doesnt show on the track and when i race people. someone help me to resolve my issues.

my best 60 ft time was a 2.338
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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What wheels do you have on? Are they heavy? Do you use 87 octane? How many miles on the car?
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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i have the stock 15" sawblades, always put in 91 (premium in california) and i have 108K miles on my car. i also recently replaced my fuel filter.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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im guessing the only way to see if im putting down all the power i should be would be to run it on a dyno. my friend knows a shop that'll do 3 baseline dynos for $40.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Yeah check on the dyno. I dynoed 156whp/169wtq just before my 15.00 run.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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what should i be putting down with what i have (y-pipe and TS ecu)?
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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I trap usually 98~99 with my sawblades and ~96 with the 18's on.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Check sig....time *should* be better.
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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My best is 101.89 mph, should improve next time I go to the track since I have about 10whp more now. It might not though, because with my slightly smaller street tires, I think I have run out of gear in 3rd.
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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15.9 @ 92mph. Thanks to my Crapstone tires.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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I went back to the track finally yesterday.. I was trapping 106-107 all day..

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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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~85 mph in my 87
~108 in my 98
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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the 96 is always broke so no track times yet...
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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With the MEVI/JWT 5 speed 4th gens, 98-101mph is pretty normal. I did a couple 99.5+mph runs. Corrected for altitude, it would be over 101mph, but you run what you run. I usually gained 22mph in the last 1/8.

Something really sticks out about your run that doesn't make much sense to me. You're running 8.9@78-79mph in the 1/8 with a 2.0 60' and your 13.8 makes perfect sense, but the 103.65mph doesn't make sense according the to other numbers. In the last 1/8 mile your car is gaining 24.79mph which is unheard in most any type of NA car. 21-22mph in the last 1/8 is considered very impressive for NA. LS1s don't even gain nearly 25mph in the last 1/8. It's almost single turbo Supra like. What were your other runs like? Did they all show these wild trap speeds?

For example, SR20DEN's NA 265whp 3.5 VQ is only gaining 22mph in the last 1/8 (85.98mph to 108mph).
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
With the MEVI/JWT 5 speed 4th gens, 98-101mph is pretty normal. I did a couple 99.5+mph runs. Corrected for altitude, it would be over 101mph, but you run what you run. I usually gained 22mph in the last 1/8.

Something really sticks out about your run that doesn't make much sense to me. You're running 8.9@78-79mph in the 1/8 with a 2.0 60' and your 13.8 makes perfect sense, but the 103.65mph doesn't make sense according the to other numbers. In the last 1/8 mile your car is gaining 24.79mph which is unheard in most any type of NA car. 21-22mph in the last 1/8 is considered very impressive for NA. LS1s don't even gain nearly 25mph in the last 1/8. It's almost single turbo Supra like. What were your other runs like? Did they all show these wild trap speeds?

For example, SR20DEN's NA 265whp 3.5 VQ is only gaining 22mph in the last 1/8 (85.98mph to 108mph).

Dave, last time I was at the track I was gaining almost 24mph in the 2nd 1/8th mile. I still have the 3.0 as well, so with his mods it is possible.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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14.6@96 was my best as of last year..
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 96sleeper
Dave, last time I was at the track I was gaining almost 24mph in the 2nd 1/8th mile. I still have the 3.0 as well, so with his mods it is possible.
I must say it's almost too good to be true unless you've got a car that changes powerbands dramatically (ie nitrous, laggy turbo car) to make such large gains over the span of the last 1/8 mile. The car is already traveling at a fast pace (77-80mph) and to gain that much MPH in the last 1/8 in naturally aspirated form is quite a feat. IMO, it's nearly impossible.

Another good example is Mardigras 11-second turbo/nitrous Maxima. He gains 24.5mph in the last 1/8 with a 30-shot and gets mid 11s, but with just the turbo he gets 20-22mph and low 12s.

I'm saying anyone's lying though. I think the finger could be pointed at the track equipment. I've seen this happen at my track numerous times. Both lanes would show the exact same 1/8 ET/MPH and 1/4 ET, but the 1/4 MPH would be different by a solid 2.5mph, run after run. Then I'd go back the next week and both lanes would read the same.
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Originally Posted by Dave B
I must say it's almost too good to be true unless you've got a car that changes powerbands dramatically (ie nitrous, laggy turbo car) to make such large gains over the span of the last 1/8 mile. The car is already traveling at a fast pace (77-80mph) and to gain that much MPH in the last 1/8 in naturally aspirated form is quite a feat. IMO, it's nearly impossible.

Another good example is Mardigras 11-second turbo/nitrous Maxima. He gains 24.5mph in the last 1/8 with a 30-shot and gets mid 11s, but with just the turbo he gets 20-22mph and low 12s.

I'm saying anyone's lying though. I think the finger could be pointed at the track equipment. I've seen this happen at my track numerous times. Both lanes would show the exact same 1/8 ET/MPH and 1/4 ET, but the 1/4 MPH would be different by a solid 2.5mph, run after run. Then I'd go back the next week and both lanes would read the same.
he goes to many diff tracks maybe 4+??

we will find out soon but he had my "secret sauce super hero manifold" on and i believe it.
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Maybe he was spinning after the 60' so it wasnt represented in his 60' time, but it still hurt his 1/8 trap. The first (and only so far) time I've taken my new car to the track my 60' was not at all representative of how well I "hooked". I pulled a 2.20 60' at literally 20 or 30% throttle, anything more resulted in a smoke show. After the 60' though I laid in it, and spun the rest of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. My best trap run was 90 in the 1/8th and 115 in the 1/4, but my trapspeeds would have been much different with traction. I bet I could have gained 3mph through both sets of traps if I were on slicks, based solely on the fact that I wouldn't have spent the first 8-9 seconds of the run spinning my tires.
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13.1@105 on slicks and N20
14.2@94 on slicks and weight reduction.

Your traps are good enough for mid to low 13's that think must come alive up top.
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with my new IM mods it really comes alive up top.
Old Apr 13, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TILLEYS99
with my new IM mods it really comes alive up top.
it really looks like a FI trap.
Old Apr 13, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Everyone doubts everything around here, damn! Its not like im a newbie sayin this. Maybe i should just keep everything too myself from now on inc. 3.5 info... I will run friday and video tape it since now one can believe it. 25mph is a good gain but you gotta remember it has a decent amount of mods.
Old Apr 13, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by plurco
it really looks like a FI trap.
OK so does this sound better, i ran a 14.2 @88.9mph (braked to avoid breakin out.)
Old Apr 13, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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dude I was in no way doubting you. I was just making a statement. I promise you I am a fan. I love what you are doing. I was just saying was that if I saw that 1/4 mile and trap speed without knowing anything else I would guess it was a FI time.
Old Apr 13, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by plurco
dude I was in no way doubting you. I was just making a statement. I promise you I am a fan. I love what you are doing. I was just saying was that if I saw that 1/4 mile and trap speed without knowing anything else I would guess it was a FI time.

Its not all you, dave b is who most of this is in reference too.
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whatever, as long as you know that I am not doubting you.
Old Apr 13, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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My 01 LS1 gains 24-25mph from 8th to 1/4.

60' - 2.105
330 - 5.704
1/8 - 8.584
MPH - 85.99
1000 - 11.040
1/4 - 13.101
MPH - 110.42

24.43mph gain from 1/8th to 1/4 MPH, some of my other slips I have looked at ive gained over 25mph.

I wouldnt say its impossible, my Talon did 81.85 in the 8th and 108.69 through the 1/4. Thats 26.8
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Originally Posted by TILLEYS99
OK so does this sound better, i ran a 14.2 @88.9mph (braked to avoid breakin out.)
Damn I ran 15.7 at 88.
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Originally Posted by Loreak
My 01 LS1 gains 24-25mph from 8th to 1/4.

60' - 2.105
330 - 5.704
1/8 - 8.584
MPH - 85.99
1000 - 11.040
1/4 - 13.101
MPH - 110.42

24.43mph gain from 1/8th to 1/4 MPH, some of my other slips I have looked at ive gained over 25mph.

I wouldnt say its impossible, my Talon did 81.85 in the 8th and 108.69 through the 1/4. Thats 26.8
Your LS1 is a turd dave lol j/k.
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Originally Posted by Loreak
My 01 LS1 gains 24-25mph from 8th to 1/4.

60' - 2.105
330 - 5.704
1/8 - 8.584
MPH - 85.99
1000 - 11.040
1/4 - 13.101
MPH - 110.42

24.43mph gain from 1/8th to 1/4 MPH, some of my other slips I have looked at ive gained over 25mph.

I wouldnt say its impossible, my Talon did 81.85 in the 8th and 108.69 through the 1/4. Thats 26.8
haha no one likes your ls1 haha j/p trythall its all good



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