Not like I want to start any more beef between you guys or anything but as Don said...what IS

Nissan Upgraded Injectors
Nissan Upgraded Internals
Nissan Upgraded ECU
Nissan Upgraded LSD Transmission

I would think it would be something like

300ZX Injectors
Internals by so&so
G-force/tech ECU
and whatever for the LSD Transmission

I thought maybe the poster was lazy? but then I figured not because he was pretty specific for everything else


anywayyy...I like the C/A on the blower

 

how and when did you establish that Don?

 

 

my maxima was turbo n/m

 

hey phil what we talked about is happening

 

the "raised" hood provides for easier "Ram-air" access and the uni-wiper provides for less weight! the paint helps as well, the girls really dig it!!

 

look what happens when you try to "hot link" fomr Ricecop.com, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA .... GARRRRRYY COOOOLEMAN ---->

 

Nice picture!

 

Don and Phil, your Maxima's can't even compare to this:

 

ahahahahaha that is some funny stuff.

 

i'm the fastest because you guys fear automagics

 

 

my pick:
1st: the Huffy(obviously by 3+ lengths)
2nd: Don
3rd: Phil
4th: Me!(waayyy in the back!)

 

its nice of you to back up your in state mechanic.. we no burn no bridges here man

 

Ah, this thread again.

 

Why do owners of quickest cars always have to be so damn secretive about what they've done? It's pretty clear that most of us won't invest large sums of money in our Maxima's to get them to perform like these guys so why can't they just tell us what they've done? Does anyone else here think this statement of "I'm not gonna tell you what I've done, but my car is this fast" is pointless? To me, there's just not any creditibility in this statement. What's even funnier is these guys get ****ed when we question them.

Phil's car is sweet, but I have to question some things. After seeing Phil's Max pics, I've come to the conclusion that little has been done to his motor unless he can prove otherwise. Who in their right mind would pull a motor, rebuild it, and not clean it off? I think his "upgraded" injectors are just a set of blueprinted stockers, his upgraded internals are a set of heavy duty and thick head gaskets, and the ECU is modified via a S-AFC. I always here about how "fast" Phil's car is, but I've never heard any of ANY ets for this car. Sure, many have ridden with him, but the butt-dyno is very misleading. I love it when people say, "oh yeah, it's a 12 second car, I rode with him". Just to elobrate on this, I use to own a modded 94 Z28 and my buddy got a 98 Z28. This LS1 Z28 felt like a dog and we both thought it would barely break into the low 14s, but when he took it to the track it ran 13.2s@108mph to my 13.6s@102mph. My car "felt" much faster, but he would kill me. If Phil wants to say he has a 12 second car, fine, but show me some proof. It would be like me saying I'm running 13.8s all motor with no other proof. Would you guys believe me?

Don has shown us timeslips, many have witnessed his car at the track, and we know what's been done to his Max. I could care less that Don's car is a auto because if you knew anything about drag racing, you'd know autos are stronger (with a little build up) and far more consistent. When you put some torque behind an auto, the car flat out performs and the extra gearing of the 5 speed becomes worthless. A slighly built auto (valve body upgrade, TC, new bands and clutches) allows you to stall up at the line and launch hard. Plus the driveline lash is nearly non existant which reduces the potential to blow the differential on launch and the 1-2 shift. Make fun of autos all you want, but be aware that only the quickest run autos.

Until proven otherwise, I think Don is currently the quickest until Phil wants to try and prove otherwise. Phil, if you want respect then you've got to earn it. Many of us don't know you personally so we can't just go by your "word".



Dave

 

And you think that speech is going to get phil to tell you what he has done to his car? lets just say.. those who need to know.. do know.. I know what he has done.. and a couple other people on the forum.. i know the shop that did the work.. and i know the parts.. why do i know the parts? because i was talking to Phil's shop to have them ordered for me... and i will say this.. they ARE JDM parts

 

I have yet to see the car, but I was told that it is a legit rebuild. I haven't met Phil yet either, but I do not doubt his mods. I agree that it is tough to believe when you never see the car in person or pictures, but that just isn't his style. He is a serious modder and tracks the car on a regular basis. He is also sponsored by a shop that does really good work. He can also afford these mods. That is why I believe it without seeing. I suppose I'm taking a small leap of faith, but www.performanceix.com can't travel around the country and inspect the cars before featuring them. If I come to find that I was lied to, I will lose all respect for him and his car. I don't think that will be the case. I am usually a decent judge of character, but you never know

 

Talk to Philililip when he's not sober... you'll find all your answers. Got lime?

 

thats foul.. but true

the problem or the great thing is.. he has no recolection of the conversation after

 

I see you've done the same too!

Too bad those 4th gen parts are slightly different than 5th gen parts.

 

great thing i have a 4th Gen

 

So does Jane.

 

Lots of people do. Not everyone is into the "show" aspect of a car. Blueprinted stock injectors would just bring the specs closer to the 270 cc range. Improving fuel flow is slow firing cylinders but not really improving the horsepower potential of them. His internals also don't consist of a set of thicker head gaskets. I remember when he had them in lockdown in customs(along with other stuff). Also, the S-AFC only allows you to modify the fuel/air mixture, not control the additional injector size..

 

Sprint, I've seen the man run, not just 'backing up my in-state mechanic'--what's that about? I'm the mechanic here!
you guys are killin' me......peace, I'm out!

 

Phil is quite the funny man when drunk

 

Yes, some of us do know what he has. Ask when he is intoxicated. :P

All this talk about Phillips car, where is that damn kid?

 

I don't get this secrecy thing... I know if my car was anywhere near as heavily modded as either of these guys I would tell anyone who would listen about it. Don seems to be taking that route with his project, sharing the things he finds out and telling the community anything he finds out that could help, like the fact that headers would be useless on a N/A Maxima. Why keep it a secret? Maybe worried about theft? Doubt it... if you can afford an X5 you can probably afford to park your car somewhere safe from theft. I'm really just curious why Phil wants to keep everything secret. It's not like everyone who might race him will come online and check his mods first.

 

The secracy is not about security.. its exactly whats going on here.. 8 pages.. and 5000 people annoying you daily.. as said before.. those who know.. know.. and if you are close to phil you will know his mods.. plus philp has one of the most unique maxima's with the internal parts thats in the car.. now i got him to tell me what they were.. but i keep that secret because he asked for that... I doubt philip wants everyone and their mother using the same mods he has.. his car is unique.. just leave it at that...

 

I'm not scared, I've got my secret weapon too. With my modded out thigh and calf muscles I run low 8's.

 

Wait til next month's featured car. No one will want to mess with it either.

 

"war is nothing more than a giant d!ck waving pr!ck contest. It stems from a mans need to propell his ***** into other peoples afairs. Why do you think bombs are shaped like d!cks?"

Most of the angst here comes from the "show-off" attitude that Nick started with this thread. Once people inquired about the car, they got a door shut in their faces.

I can understand Phil not wanting his best ET known, espicially if he street races. Never let them know what your holding. But if he didn't want the lime-light, why did he try to defend himself. Just let it go. If it's an ego thing, then run Don. We're all just enthusiast that frequent this forum in hopes of learning more about our cars and what can be done to them. Where's the love?

 

Got it right here for you

 

I tried using that subject title as an attention getter so that people would open this thread. I guess it worked.

 

You cut me deep, man. :-(

 

GEEZE!!!!!!!!!! you all need to chill. Ok, 1. it IS possible to do a rebuild with the engine in the car, but it is NOT possible to bore or stoke it (obviously). First off. Phil has an LSD, so his tranny had to be dropped, so who knows, maybe he had the crank out then! it would take VERY little time to drop the crank, rods, and pistons. it's not rocket science. Especially once you start getting good. we can have the 3.1 in the fiero out of the car and torn down in under 2 hours. N E WAY, phil's max is pretty intense, and the only bummer is his upper plenum is NASTY! but he should be fixing this soon I'm not sure what i can disclose about his car other than IT IS FAST. he's got one of the best sleepers i've ever seen. but for those of you that don't believe him, i gotta say, why are you doubting him? i mean, does he really have to prove himself to you? ok, i'm sorry, i'm sorta defending phil just cause i get sick of people being so rough on his max. He shows it, but it's got it where it counts. hopefully he'll run roadcourse with me too! i bet he'll do a little better there cause of his setup. oh don, i'm not sure what all you have done to your car, i'm not rippin on ya, but why don't you trailer her up here and you can run against phil. . . that's the only way this will be settled, but phil does drive his max ALOT for what's done to it. gotta remember that. I'm not tryin to step on any toes here. just sayin. there's only one way to know.

 

You are so full of ****! Only people that haven't removed this engine and rebuilt it can "say" it can be done in the car. This is the "cut & paste" method I was talking about. If you haven't done it, you don't know. If you think you can rebuild this engine without removing it, you have no clue what you are talking about

Why would I have to trailer anything anywhere? I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm only trying to find out how he rebuilt the engine or "replaced with upgraded Nissan internals" without removing the engine. Thats all. If it runs 10's, GREAT!!! I just wanna know how he rebuilt without removing the engine.

End of story :0


Don

 

 

I, for one, am a big Maxima (and Nissan) fan. I love to see people doing things to their Max's to make 'em faster, handle better, look better...and best of all...beat other cars...What I come here for is to see what people are doing to their cars, what new stuff is out their. I've been around for nearly two years now and I've seen some great things develop, from Don and his work, to Cheston and others. I am curious what's been done to this car simply because I like options. If someone has done something to their car that's made it better is it wrong for others to want the same thing? I think not, but it's also fair for things to be kept secret...all things will be known evetually.

peace

 

um dude, i pulled the pistons in my jeep cherokee (2.46L otherwise known as a 2.5 to non jeep buffs. 150 ci) the reason i pulled the pistons was cause i had 2 broken rings. so we replaced them. I know for a FACT it CAN be done and I HAVE done it. Also, on my buddy's prelude, we almost did this type of rebuild before he did a swap. don't tell me i'm full of it mechanic man! LOL, just cause you don't do it that way at the dealership or wherever the hell you work, doesn't mean it can't be done. Jason (best friend) is an ASE certified mechanic, and is a nissan tech over at west hills here in PA. Him and i did this to my jeep and i know it can be done with a max.