2008 7th gen Maxima article
#1
2008 7th gen Maxima article
Don't know if this has been posted, but...
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While the vehicle's appearance, in terms of both the exterior and cabin, will change greatly, the 2008 Maxima will retain its FF-L front-drive platform, which it shares with the Altima.
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Source: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...4/preview.html
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While the vehicle's appearance, in terms of both the exterior and cabin, will change greatly, the 2008 Maxima will retain its FF-L front-drive platform, which it shares with the Altima.
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Source: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...4/preview.html
#3
Sounds like Maxima is going after the big-boys, as the article states it will be a la Avalon. My friend drove the Avalon again (he's nearing retirement) and this time they had 12 in stock--when he first got interested there were 0-2. He also drove the 2k6 Maxima which he felt was very fast (this is objective input as he's not biased towards any car even though he has a 96 Max), and then he took a Murano out and it ran out of gas. Can you imagine some poor bloke is gonna buy that car from the dealer? Also, when he asked on what fuel is required, the salespeople said regular unleaded for all 3. Kinda shady, huh? They done wanna lose the sale by saying premium recommended.
#5
Maybe this is what the Maxima needs, the Altima is nearly identical to the Max now. When you think sporty max, you dont tend to think 6th gen anyway, I think 3rd to 5.5 gen, but none of us can make a really accurate judgement until some pictures are released, and who knows, maybe they'll throw in a VK.....
#6
I would love to see the maxima going back to its roots as a 4DSC, but it seems the G35 sedan has taken over the Nissan/Infiniti "sports sedan" title. The only reason to keep the maxima around would be for Nissan to have a competing large family sedan.
#13
Originally Posted by chillin014
whys everyone quiting nissan/maxima?
#15
yeah i dont really follow trends, ive fallen in love with the max so i cant really just get up and go like that..i wouldnt want to either...i guess i dont understand something...
a good car is a good car.
a good car is a good car.
#16
This has been writting on the wall since the new Altima was announced to be in the pipeline, somewhere around 1999-2000. Unfortunately it's easier to move a name one step 'up' the chain than to try to introduce a new 'top-line' model.
It's certainly a case of 'The King is dead. Long live the King!' with a mix of '... is not a rose by any other name just as sweet?'
To do what I did today what I did 5 years ago, it's a 5sp 3.5L Altima. I haven't shopped cars lately but there is nothing that the 2K4-5-6 Maxima has that the Altima doesn't. Hell, if you want to spend the big-buck, you can get a 6spd MT in an Altima.
As for going to Infiniti, worse than having a bloated Maxima with bells-and-whistles-and-belts-and-suspenders, you get a bloated invoice. Where's the beef?
As for hybrid... It's over priced (in all cars to date). Unless you drive the car for 8-10 years or more you don't save enough gas to pay for the extra capital spending. To that add the unknown durability of the whole battery/electric running gear, especially in these colder climates. "Hello Nissan, I need a battery pack for a 2008 Maxima." Then you have the question of how much energy and toxic materials are used to produce the batteries / motors etc.
But, and there is a big but. Having had a ride in an Accord Hybrid, they haul ***!
It's certainly a case of 'The King is dead. Long live the King!' with a mix of '... is not a rose by any other name just as sweet?'
To do what I did today what I did 5 years ago, it's a 5sp 3.5L Altima. I haven't shopped cars lately but there is nothing that the 2K4-5-6 Maxima has that the Altima doesn't. Hell, if you want to spend the big-buck, you can get a 6spd MT in an Altima.
As for going to Infiniti, worse than having a bloated Maxima with bells-and-whistles-and-belts-and-suspenders, you get a bloated invoice. Where's the beef?
As for hybrid... It's over priced (in all cars to date). Unless you drive the car for 8-10 years or more you don't save enough gas to pay for the extra capital spending. To that add the unknown durability of the whole battery/electric running gear, especially in these colder climates. "Hello Nissan, I need a battery pack for a 2008 Maxima." Then you have the question of how much energy and toxic materials are used to produce the batteries / motors etc.
But, and there is a big but. Having had a ride in an Accord Hybrid, they haul ***!
#17
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we all saw this coming. dumbass's still going FWD. what happend to the term "sports sedan" ? **** 07 maxima
word, they would rather have a grandma buy the car to go to sav-on and get some viagra for her hubsand than the fans of the car who buy it for its history. pathetic
Originally Posted by NYPD-Arnold
Becuase Nissan refuses to cater to demands of their fanbase?
#19
I would be suprised if this is my only Max/I30. I would only consider 4th or 5.5gens anyway so this is not really a heartbreaker to me.
It's not going to get any smaller/lighter than an Altima so it's pretty much over.
It's also not going to get any more luxurious than a G35/M35 so it's effed.
It's not going to get any smaller/lighter than an Altima so it's pretty much over.
It's also not going to get any more luxurious than a G35/M35 so it's effed.
#22
In your opoinon. I look at the 5th gen as being a luxury sedan look. the 6th is more of a 4dsc. I love my 05, thats why I wanted one. I have never really been a max fan until the 04's came out. I had a 97 eclipse for awhile and needed more room for my kid, I bought a titan, guzzled way to much gas then went to the max. fine car. I will be pissed if they screw it up in 07,08.
#24
I'm thinking this car will be an 09 model since Nissan is spending tthe money to do some major changes to it in 07 (for 1 model year I doubt) as they did with the 5th gen for 02. The mags have historically missed the mark with the year models of a new Maxima debut, I remember back in the early's 90's they said the 4th gen would be released as a 93 or 94 but was a 95 and the 5th gen would be a 99 it was a 00. I would count on it as a 09 model year.
#25
My thoughts are that the car has needed to be moved up in its category so that it could be matched well with the other cars around, have a competition base per say. The maxima has always been in a class by itself. originally it was more expensive than the accord because it had a v6 which the accord did not. When the accord recieved a v6, it was more expensive than the accord because it had a few more luxo features and was better built. Either way the car has drifted in comparison between the Accord and the TL or better the Camry and the Es300. Things become very confusing for many consumers when they buy a NEW maxima because it has so many competitors to place it against, but no direct competition. Which can hurt sales. That was GM's entire basis for getting rid of Oldsmobile. No competitor in the import market.
So the maxima will have to be moved up in its own way to stay the NISSAN Flagship. It will still be somewhat sporty because that is a nissan Tradition, but it will become larger and more luxurious on the inside. Nissan didn't forget its fan base like someone posted earlier essentially they gave you guys exactly what you wanted in the 04+ Maxima. The car is fast, its pretty nimble, and the interior is Hot! The only problem that you have with it is its now called an Altima. They gave us our Maxima but we don't like it because we are used to having the top of the line Nissan but as we get older and mature, so does our car.
As far as drivetrian I think Edmonds missed the mark. The car will have to pretty soon reciev the infiniti AWD system to stay above the competition
So the maxima will have to be moved up in its own way to stay the NISSAN Flagship. It will still be somewhat sporty because that is a nissan Tradition, but it will become larger and more luxurious on the inside. Nissan didn't forget its fan base like someone posted earlier essentially they gave you guys exactly what you wanted in the 04+ Maxima. The car is fast, its pretty nimble, and the interior is Hot! The only problem that you have with it is its now called an Altima. They gave us our Maxima but we don't like it because we are used to having the top of the line Nissan but as we get older and mature, so does our car.
As far as drivetrian I think Edmonds missed the mark. The car will have to pretty soon reciev the infiniti AWD system to stay above the competition
#27
everyones saying nissan is failing to cater to the enthusiast. well of course they are, Nissan is in this to make money, not friends. the grandmothers going to the stores and the 40 year old executive who wants a reasonable car are the ones making them money, not those of us with 10 year old cars calling ourselves "fans".
from nissans standpoint, the Altima has now taken the place as the sporty sedan, as made evident by the Altima SE-R. if you go into nissan and tell them you want a 4DSC, they will usher you more toward the Alty now than the maxima. so from the decision making standpoint, they arent sacrificing anything, and in fact, they opened up their "fan base". before they had the tiny sentra, the relatively small altima, and the maxima. people who wanted a sport sedan went for the max, but if they wanted something larger, they had to look elsewhere, nissan was losing sales. now they have the mid level altima, to cater to those who want a reliable family sedan, but also the sport sedan fan who (3.5SE, SE-R). if they want a larger car, now they can get a maxima with its luxuirous feel, and maybe some sport thrown in, who knows. so as far as they are concerned, all bases are covered now, whereas before the altima got a serious upgrade, they were lacking.
like was previously said, we all saw this coming when the altima was totally redesigned in 2002. yes, the maxima as we know it now is dead, but has been re-incarnated as the altima. its a business decision, and business usually doesnt cater to enthusiasts.
from nissans standpoint, the Altima has now taken the place as the sporty sedan, as made evident by the Altima SE-R. if you go into nissan and tell them you want a 4DSC, they will usher you more toward the Alty now than the maxima. so from the decision making standpoint, they arent sacrificing anything, and in fact, they opened up their "fan base". before they had the tiny sentra, the relatively small altima, and the maxima. people who wanted a sport sedan went for the max, but if they wanted something larger, they had to look elsewhere, nissan was losing sales. now they have the mid level altima, to cater to those who want a reliable family sedan, but also the sport sedan fan who (3.5SE, SE-R). if they want a larger car, now they can get a maxima with its luxuirous feel, and maybe some sport thrown in, who knows. so as far as they are concerned, all bases are covered now, whereas before the altima got a serious upgrade, they were lacking.
like was previously said, we all saw this coming when the altima was totally redesigned in 2002. yes, the maxima as we know it now is dead, but has been re-incarnated as the altima. its a business decision, and business usually doesnt cater to enthusiasts.
#28
..like was previously said, we all saw this coming when the altima was totally redesigned in 2002. yes, the maxima as we know it now is dead, but has been re-incarnated as the altima. its a business decision, and business usually doesnt cater to enthusiasts.
#32
i think the reason why so many of us have issues with or maxes is because we have a car that we love but wish so many things were different about it. ie: rwd, 2dr,etc
so i gather others like myself would just go out and buy a car that closer meets the needs we would like to have fufilled.
so i gather others like myself would just go out and buy a car that closer meets the needs we would like to have fufilled.
#33
Originally Posted by KCMC582
everyones saying nissan is failing to cater to the enthusiast. well of course they are, Nissan is in this to make money, not friends. the grandmothers going to the stores and the 40 year old executive who wants a reasonable car are the ones making them money, not those of us with 10 year old cars calling ourselves "fans".
#35
I don't get it! If you want a luxury version of the Maxima now,
then get an Infiniti M35 or M45. Many people on other auto review
forums complained that the 6th gen Maxima have failed them as
a luxury sedan. The Maxima, in my opinion, is the best car you can
get in the $20k region. As always, you get what you've paid.
My choice is a M35 with all wheel drive, but certainly that won't
be in the $20k region. So unless they are doing away with Inifiniti,
I don't see a point in making the Maxima "more luxury."
then get an Infiniti M35 or M45. Many people on other auto review
forums complained that the 6th gen Maxima have failed them as
a luxury sedan. The Maxima, in my opinion, is the best car you can
get in the $20k region. As always, you get what you've paid.
My choice is a M35 with all wheel drive, but certainly that won't
be in the $20k region. So unless they are doing away with Inifiniti,
I don't see a point in making the Maxima "more luxury."
#36
The reason I bought a max in the first place was because of exactly what it was:
Inexpensive
Large roomy 4 door sedan
Plenty of V6 power
5-speed manual transmission with a V6 engine
Drivetrain configuration (FF/FR) wasn't a factor
No other Japanese-brand car had this combination at the time!
Inexpensive
Large roomy 4 door sedan
Plenty of V6 power
5-speed manual transmission with a V6 engine
Drivetrain configuration (FF/FR) wasn't a factor
No other Japanese-brand car had this combination at the time!
#37
That's funny because in 1998, they also predicted the 2000/5th gen redesign would be RWD. I think the 2002+ Maximas have plenty of luxury (even more than some so-called luxury brands), so I don't know what more they could really add to it. Maybe I'm just not that imaginative. I mean, the current Max pretty much has everything the new Avalon has, but Nissan did it first.
I will agree that something needs to be done to take the Max to a whole difference level, since it's getting crowded by the Alty. That's what Toyota did with the Avalon instead of making it go extinct. Frankly, I think they did a good job too. Maybe Nissan will have similar success, but I don't think it necessarily needs to go head-to-head with the Avalon. Do something different. Create a new niche. If they're going to kill the whole 4dsc concept anyway, why not make a shortened coupe version to compete with the Solara and Accord cpe. too? How about do something like the MB CLS? There are so many options out there. Nissan has been a leader for so many years, I hope they don't just grow complacent and follow Toyota's lead now.
I will agree that something needs to be done to take the Max to a whole difference level, since it's getting crowded by the Alty. That's what Toyota did with the Avalon instead of making it go extinct. Frankly, I think they did a good job too. Maybe Nissan will have similar success, but I don't think it necessarily needs to go head-to-head with the Avalon. Do something different. Create a new niche. If they're going to kill the whole 4dsc concept anyway, why not make a shortened coupe version to compete with the Solara and Accord cpe. too? How about do something like the MB CLS? There are so many options out there. Nissan has been a leader for so many years, I hope they don't just grow complacent and follow Toyota's lead now.
#38
Originally Posted by bigEL
That's funny because in 1998, they also predicted the 2000/5th gen redesign would be RWD. I think the 2002+ Maximas have plenty of luxury (even more than some so-called luxury brands), so I don't know what more they could really add to it. Maybe I'm just not that imaginative. I mean, the current Max pretty much has everything the new Avalon has, but Nissan did it first.
I will agree that something needs to be done to take the Max to a whole difference level, since it's getting crowded by the Alty. That's what Toyota did with the Avalon instead of making it go extinct. Frankly, I think they did a good job too. Maybe Nissan will have similar success, but I don't think it necessarily needs to go head-to-head with the Avalon. Do something different. Create a new niche. If they're going to kill the whole 4dsc concept anyway, why not make a shortened coupe version to compete with the Solara and Accord cpe. too? How about do something like the MB CLS? There are so many options out there. Nissan has been a leader for so many years, I hope they don't just grow complacent and follow Toyota's lead now.
I will agree that something needs to be done to take the Max to a whole difference level, since it's getting crowded by the Alty. That's what Toyota did with the Avalon instead of making it go extinct. Frankly, I think they did a good job too. Maybe Nissan will have similar success, but I don't think it necessarily needs to go head-to-head with the Avalon. Do something different. Create a new niche. If they're going to kill the whole 4dsc concept anyway, why not make a shortened coupe version to compete with the Solara and Accord cpe. too? How about do something like the MB CLS? There are so many options out there. Nissan has been a leader for so many years, I hope they don't just grow complacent and follow Toyota's lead now.
If they were to introduce a shortened coupe version, I don't think they should keep the Maxima name at all.
#39
4DSC Nissan Maxima: 1989-2007
You life was one of joy and speed. Your avowed mission in life was to be the fastest of the 4 doors, to humiliate those of German decent. While others sacrificed their manuals for autos and cushy rides, you never forgot performance was your creed.
Because of badge engineering and some new kid called Infiniti, your progeny will be a wallflower , a copy of a bloated Camry.
Maxima, we will miss you...
I'm REALLY hoping that SOMEONE at Nissan reads these forums....
You life was one of joy and speed. Your avowed mission in life was to be the fastest of the 4 doors, to humiliate those of German decent. While others sacrificed their manuals for autos and cushy rides, you never forgot performance was your creed.
Because of badge engineering and some new kid called Infiniti, your progeny will be a wallflower , a copy of a bloated Camry.
Maxima, we will miss you...
I'm REALLY hoping that SOMEONE at Nissan reads these forums....
#40
Originally Posted by KCMC582
everyones saying nissan is failing to cater to the enthusiast. well of course they are, Nissan is in this to make money, not friends. the grandmothers going to the stores and the 40 year old executive who wants a reasonable car are the ones making them money, not those of us with 10 year old cars calling ourselves "fans".
from nissans standpoint, the Altima has now taken the place as the sporty sedan, as made evident by the Altima SE-R. if you go into nissan and tell them you want a 4DSC, they will usher you more toward the Alty now than the maxima. so from the decision making standpoint, they arent sacrificing anything, and in fact, they opened up their "fan base". before they had the tiny sentra, the relatively small altima, and the maxima. people who wanted a sport sedan went for the max, but if they wanted something larger, they had to look elsewhere, nissan was losing sales. now they have the mid level altima, to cater to those who want a reliable family sedan, but also the sport sedan fan who (3.5SE, SE-R). if they want a larger car, now they can get a maxima with its luxuirous feel, and maybe some sport thrown in, who knows. so as far as they are concerned, all bases are covered now, whereas before the altima got a serious upgrade, they were lacking.
like was previously said, we all saw this coming when the altima was totally redesigned in 2002. yes, the maxima as we know it now is dead, but has been re-incarnated as the altima. its a business decision, and business usually doesnt cater to enthusiasts.
from nissans standpoint, the Altima has now taken the place as the sporty sedan, as made evident by the Altima SE-R. if you go into nissan and tell them you want a 4DSC, they will usher you more toward the Alty now than the maxima. so from the decision making standpoint, they arent sacrificing anything, and in fact, they opened up their "fan base". before they had the tiny sentra, the relatively small altima, and the maxima. people who wanted a sport sedan went for the max, but if they wanted something larger, they had to look elsewhere, nissan was losing sales. now they have the mid level altima, to cater to those who want a reliable family sedan, but also the sport sedan fan who (3.5SE, SE-R). if they want a larger car, now they can get a maxima with its luxuirous feel, and maybe some sport thrown in, who knows. so as far as they are concerned, all bases are covered now, whereas before the altima got a serious upgrade, they were lacking.
like was previously said, we all saw this coming when the altima was totally redesigned in 2002. yes, the maxima as we know it now is dead, but has been re-incarnated as the altima. its a business decision, and business usually doesnt cater to enthusiasts.
This post should be the final word of this thread. To those of you saying nissan has betrayed its "fans", what portion of the total maxima community do you believe actually mods their car?
You want what the Maxima has offered in the past? Buy an new Altima SE-R