The end is comming.
12-01-2005, 12:26 PM
#41
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I bought it all used, and the install doesnt take that long (GEN I Cattman) 650$ for all of it, sure more could be had for less, but you didn't acknowklegde the fact that I like being N/A and staying there.
12-01-2005, 12:35 PM
#42
[QUOTE=MrGone]keep telling yourself that 
I bet it if you don't mod your mustang pretty high, he'd give you more than a good run
so what's your defination? 
I bet it if you don't mod your mustang pretty high, he'd give you more than a good run
I think your definition of blow past and my definition of blow past are quite different. Regardless, Maxima's not street monsters. It is like dividing by zero, unpossible!
12-01-2005, 12:36 PM
#43
Originally Posted by MrGone
at finding a "fresh" 4th gen
12-01-2005, 12:50 PM
#47
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
A local guy was selling his 95 SE that had only 30,000 miles on it a few years ago. Clean as hell. I don't know if that was the meet date where you couldn't find Southcenter.
I still can't believe how clean that VE at Woodburn was
you would have been proud of his valvetrain
12-01-2005, 01:27 PM
#49
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Dollar for dollar, an old mustang is not very good either. 
here's what I can do:
Cam + gaskets: $200
Lifters: $80
Pushrods: $40
Jet kit: $40
Headers: $100
Exhaust: $130
total: $590
Spend $390 more and you will have a full roller valve train
Brand new, retail store.
12-01-2005, 01:29 PM
#50
For $600 I could probably buy more hp for an Ford SVO 2.3 turbo
Originally Posted by MrGone
he purchased first generation headers, used, for $650.
here's what I can do:
Cam + gaskets: $150
Lifters: $80
Pushrods: $40
Jet kit: $40
Headers: $100
Exhaust: $130
total: $590
Spend $390 more and you will have a full roller valve train
Brand new, retail store.
here's what I can do:
Cam + gaskets: $150
Lifters: $80
Pushrods: $40
Jet kit: $40
Headers: $100
Exhaust: $130
total: $590
Spend $390 more and you will have a full roller valve train
Brand new, retail store.
12-01-2005, 02:33 PM
#51
Originally Posted by MrGone
he purchased first generation headers, used, for $650.
here's what I can do:
Cam + gaskets: $200
Lifters: $80
Pushrods: $40
Jet kit: $40
Headers: $100
Exhaust: $130
total: $590
Spend $390 more and you will have a full roller valve train
Brand new, retail store.
here's what I can do:
Cam + gaskets: $200
Lifters: $80
Pushrods: $40
Jet kit: $40
Headers: $100
Exhaust: $130
total: $590
Spend $390 more and you will have a full roller valve train
Brand new, retail store.
12-01-2005, 07:08 PM
#56
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Originally Posted by MrGone
you know they stopped claiming the cars to be 4 Door Sports Cars before the VQ came out....
your entire post is invalid
your entire post is invalid
“Maxima has always had the power and performance that has earned it a reputation as a true 4-door sports car. Now it also looks the part,” said Mark McNabb, vice president and general manager, Nissan Division, Nissan North America, Inc. “The new Maxima is more stylish, refined and evolved then ever – higher performance, roomier and sportier. In essence, a wolf in wolf's clothing.”
http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/200...overview.shtml
Read it yourself since you don't seem to belive me.
12-01-2005, 07:57 PM
#58
Originally Posted by FameMax
“Maxima has always had the power and performance that has earned it a reputation as a true 4-door sports car. Now it also looks the part,” said Mark McNabb, vice president and general manager, Nissan Division, Nissan North America, Inc. “The new Maxima is more stylish, refined and evolved then ever – higher performance, roomier and sportier. In essence, a wolf in wolf's clothing.”
http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/200...overview.shtml
Read it yourself since you don't seem to belive me.
http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/200...overview.shtml
Read it yourself since you don't seem to belive me.
you know, because that is the same as mass marketing including a sticker on the rear quarter windows
12-01-2005, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
quoting people, yaaay!
you know, because that is the same as mass marketing including a sticker on the rear quarter windows
you know, because that is the same as mass marketing including a sticker on the rear quarter windows
I'll take a Nissan Exe. word long before I trust a sticker, cause that sticker hasn't been on a Maxima since 94 (or close to it) and that guy works for Nissan currently
12-01-2005, 08:14 PM
#61
Originally Posted by FameMax
I'll take a Nissan Exe. word long before I trust a sticker, cause that sticker hasn't been on a Maxima since 94 (or close to it) and that guy works for Nissan currently
12-01-2005, 09:03 PM
#62
Yeah they are not producing anything that we like, but look at how many cars they sell ? I have yet to see a Ford Fussion on a road other than the dealer cars. Ford can't sell any cars, and GM is in the same boat. Altima sells like hotcakes compared to the Malibu or Impala, same thing goes for Camry- they sell cause people want affordable transportation that is reliable and holds some value after few years still. If you where in charge of the company would you take a chance and build cars which would be cattered to performance freaks ? Or main stream buyers who really do not care bout FWD vs RWD, or how much power the car puts out (look at how many 325s BMW sells, and they are NOT fast by any means). This saying there is really no car in the upper 20s range that offers more value per dollar than Nissan does with their Altima and Maxima- no matter how ugly you think they are.
Sure you can buy a loaded Impala or Taurus for less than a Camry/Accord/Altima, but will it hold its value like any asian car 3 years from now ?
I will always drive Nissan vehicles, old ones at that. As nothing out there now excites me, and I hate domestic brands. I have enough $$$ to buy anything I desire, yet I chose to drive old Infiniti/Nissans.
Sure you can buy a loaded Impala or Taurus for less than a Camry/Accord/Altima, but will it hold its value like any asian car 3 years from now ?
I will always drive Nissan vehicles, old ones at that. As nothing out there now excites me, and I hate domestic brands. I have enough $$$ to buy anything I desire, yet I chose to drive old Infiniti/Nissans.
12-01-2005, 09:42 PM
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[QUOTE=BlackBIRDVQ] This saying there is really no car in the upper 20s range that offers more value per dollar than Nissan does with their Altima and Maxima- no matter how ugly you think they are. [QUOTE]
Very not true...take a look at Subaru
Very not true...take a look at Subaru
12-01-2005, 10:33 PM
#67
Subaru is a nice car, but you need to modify it in order to make it pleasure to drive. Stock they lack acceleration of a Maxima (I am not talking redline AWD launches at every stop light), they lack low end power and turbo lag is something I do not wanna put up with. Most people who are looking to buy a car are not going to modiffy it, so driving a Maxima vs a Legacy back to back would make me wanna pick the Max. Its acceleration is plenty strong, and it has power at ANY RPM- you do not need to wait for the turbo to kick in to make any siginificant power. Maxima will pull on a Legacy without any problem from a roll, its engine doesn't need any turbo to extract good power- as it already has plenty of it. At the same time Maxima offers more room, its cheaper to insure and with a decent set of wheel and slight lowering looks just as good as the Legacy. What else can you buy for less than 30K with 4 doors that comes close to it and still offers a manual tranny ?
12-01-2005, 10:59 PM
#68
Originally Posted by FameMax
I'll take a Nissan Exe. word long before I trust a sticker, cause that sticker hasn't been on a Maxima since 94 (or close to it) and that guy works for Nissan currently
12-02-2005, 12:02 AM
#70
Originally Posted by 97SEdriver
Re read my post, I was agreeing with you. My first statement was pertaining to the assumption that a family car can not become a performance car or a classic one.
57 Chevy's and early BMW's come to mind, Datsun 510's etc..
57 Chevy's and early BMW's come to mind, Datsun 510's etc..
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I have enough $$$ to buy anything I desire, yet I chose to drive old Infiniti/Nissans.
Soon I'll be in that position, once that happens hello M3 =)
12-02-2005, 06:17 AM
#71
Originally Posted by Maxi113
I see but for that to happen to a Maxima..I doubt that..highly..Look at all the Nismo support being offered...
Originally Posted by Maxi113
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I have enough $$$ to buy anything I desire, yet I chose to drive old Infiniti/Nissans.
Soon I'll be in that position, once that happens hello M3 =)
I have enough $$$ to buy anything I desire, yet I chose to drive old Infiniti/Nissans.
Soon I'll be in that position, once that happens hello M3 =)
But I have 2 MAJOR issues with going out and getting one.
1) my max is paid for
2) I would have to pay about the same amount to get a M3 of a similar year (97) for what I paid for my max when I bought it in 99, I just can't justify that for 1 second quicker to 60 and better handling (but not like 1g better handling)
I also used to own a 1st gen RX-7, I COULD justify buying another one of them as a auto-x/track car easier than I could justify the cost of an M3.
PS I have a kid, so money isn't as easy to waste anymore.
12-02-2005, 04:22 PM
#72
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
Subaru is a nice car, but you need to modify it in order to make it pleasure to drive. Stock they lack acceleration of a Maxima (I am not talking redline AWD launches at every stop light), they lack low end power and turbo lag is something I do not wanna put up with. Most people who are looking to buy a car are not going to modiffy it, so driving a Maxima vs a Legacy back to back would make me wanna pick the Max. Its acceleration is plenty strong, and it has power at ANY RPM- you do not need to wait for the turbo to kick in to make any siginificant power. Maxima will pull on a Legacy without any problem from a roll, its engine doesn't need any turbo to extract good power- as it already has plenty of it. At the same time Maxima offers more room, its cheaper to insure and with a decent set of wheel and slight lowering looks just as good as the Legacy. What else can you buy for less than 30K with 4 doors that comes close to it and still offers a manual tranny ?
2006 Dodge Charger.......No stick, but little over 30k but with the 5.7L 1/4 in 14.1 stock
2005 IS300.......................Blast to drive! Almost bought one but RWD
2006 Mitsubishi Evo.....Mitsu is in the $hitter, RS model for 26k most under 30k (except MR)
2006 Subaru Impreza WRX...New Turner Ready model for 24K! Or get fully loaded limited with leather and heated everything for 27k
2006 Subaru Legacy....well im kinda biased when it comes to this one.
I'm not saying I like all these cars or would buy all these cars...but from a car lovers point of view this is what I thought might be in the same area
I traded in my 02 6spd Maxima last Aug. The insurence on the Legacy is $102 cheaper vs. the Maxima.
12-02-2005, 07:45 PM
#73
Originally Posted by MrGone
at finding a "fresh" 4th genAnd last but not least a underbody that refuses to let go of all the years of road salt and is eating my spot welds apart .and the frame is loosing hull integrity
fresh would be much better than that and the car can have 100000000 miles on it and i still would think thats fresh i just want a sexy body
12-02-2005, 07:50 PM
#74
Originally Posted by FameMax
2006 Acura TL......with rebates 29k LOADED! Better quality, 6spd, Brembos
2006 Dodge Charger.......No stick, but little over 30k but with the 5.7L 1/4 in 14.1 stock
2005 IS300.......................Blast to drive! Almost bought one but RWD
2006 Mitsubishi Evo.....Mitsu is in the $hitter, RS model for 26k most under 30k (except MR)
2006 Subaru Impreza WRX...New Turner Ready model for 24K! Or get fully loaded limited with leather and heated everything for 27k
2006 Subaru Legacy....well im kinda biased when it comes to this one.
I'm not saying I like all these cars or would buy all these cars...but from a car lovers point of view this is what I thought might be in the same area
I traded in my 02 6spd Maxima last Aug. The insurence on the Legacy is $102 cheaper vs. the Maxima.
2006 Dodge Charger.......No stick, but little over 30k but with the 5.7L 1/4 in 14.1 stock
2005 IS300.......................Blast to drive! Almost bought one but RWD
2006 Mitsubishi Evo.....Mitsu is in the $hitter, RS model for 26k most under 30k (except MR)
2006 Subaru Impreza WRX...New Turner Ready model for 24K! Or get fully loaded limited with leather and heated everything for 27k
2006 Subaru Legacy....well im kinda biased when it comes to this one.
I'm not saying I like all these cars or would buy all these cars...but from a car lovers point of view this is what I thought might be in the same area
I traded in my 02 6spd Maxima last Aug. The insurence on the Legacy is $102 cheaper vs. the Maxima.
12-02-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by krismax
. show me another v6 car pushing these #'s with so few of mods NA.
I still love Nissans, I agree that the VQ one of if not the best V6 out there. But back to your point...another V6 Car pushing low 13s with few bolts ons? VW R32
12-02-2005, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
Nissan has always been known to make fast cars.. the vq motor is just brilliant
I agree with the second part. I don't own a Nissan for a bunch of reason but one really basic and true reason is the quality has gone down the $hiter. Its awful. This company was doing so poorly in the mid 90s but kept quality up. I know Nissan has been doing amazing recently (sales wise) but the quality is starting to fall. A lot. I had a 96 and an 02 Maxima. I noticed a major change in quality. I hope it changes. I'd consider an Infiniti but prob not a Nissan for a while. Whatever value you may or may not hold in mag. write ups, but they all agree. Its a damn shame
12-02-2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SDot82
Of course a Nissan Executive would say all good things about the new maxima so it would sell. He wouldn't say anything bad about it because he might not have a job the next day.
And your point is........? Cause my point is that the 6th Gen was refered to as a four door sports car, even if it didnt have a little sticker on the window
12-02-2005, 09:34 PM
#78
My longstanding issue with this dilema is that I agree, a M3 is a much better performance sedan.
But I have 2 MAJOR issues with going out and getting one.
1) my max is paid for
2) I would have to pay about the same amount to get a M3 of a similar year (97) for what I paid for my max when I bought it in 99, I just can't justify that for 1 second quicker to 60 and better handling (but not like 1g better handling)
I also used to own a 1st gen RX-7, I COULD justify buying another one of them as a auto-x/track car easier than I could justify the cost of an M3.
PS I have a kid, so money isn't as easy to waste anymore.[/QUOTE]
Good luck with the rx7 the cost of rebuilding that thing well yeah that can be expensive..I would rather get a brand new car that already has power than spend more rebuilding a piece of poop..
But I have 2 MAJOR issues with going out and getting one.
1) my max is paid for
2) I would have to pay about the same amount to get a M3 of a similar year (97) for what I paid for my max when I bought it in 99, I just can't justify that for 1 second quicker to 60 and better handling (but not like 1g better handling)
I also used to own a 1st gen RX-7, I COULD justify buying another one of them as a auto-x/track car easier than I could justify the cost of an M3.
PS I have a kid, so money isn't as easy to waste anymore.[/QUOTE]
Good luck with the rx7 the cost of rebuilding that thing well yeah that can be expensive..I would rather get a brand new car that already has power than spend more rebuilding a piece of poop..
12-02-2005, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxi113
QUOTE]
Good luck with the rx7 the cost of rebuilding that thing well yeah that can be expensive..I would rather get a brand new car that already has power than spend more rebuilding a piece of poop..
Good luck with the rx7 the cost of rebuilding that thing well yeah that can be expensive..I would rather get a brand new car that already has power than spend more rebuilding a piece of poop..
Second that
