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Radar detector? Thats cheating just drive the speed limit
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
most likely from neon business signs or certain cars emit laser frequencies for their cruise control, etc.
Plasma TV's will set it off too.
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by spdfreak
Probily has to be reset, or upgrade the software.

Want to seel it to me?
Escort wants $75 to "fix" the false laser alerts...and it has already saved me a couple of times so no, I don't want to sell it...
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by maxitech
Escort wants $75 to "fix" the false laser alerts...and it has already saved me a couple of times so no, I don't want to sell it...

Good choice by keeping it!

If you got any buddies that want to get rid of an escort passport 8500 x50, or a valentine one, let me know.
Old Jul 25, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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LETS KEEP THIS TREAD ALIVE!!!

Does any one have those gps devices that tell you where red light and speed cameras are? They look cool, but I'll only get one if I got to drive long distances oor along with the BULLRUN and return it when done. Just to get a feeling for it, and than, maybe maybe .000000000000001% chance of me buying one.

What about Veil?

Has anyone coated their cars front lights and plate with it? I here it's good.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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Escort Passport 8500 X50-Ebay-Seller says serial number is removed.

I was driving my second car today without the detector and am sure that I was shot by radar, and can't take another chance. There were two cops standing on the sidewalk with a radar or laser gun in hand (not sure the way either looks). As I passed I see them look at the gun and continue talking. I didn't see any cop cars down the road so it mist be some cops set to take the average and not a speed trap.

I'm in need for another detector and wanted to know what the Maxima.org group thinks about it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEWEST-ESCORT-PA...QQcmdZViewItem


Two things that come to mind; the serial # is removed, and the seller says it has version 6.1. Isn't the latest version 5?

Other side questions: Is the $4 sunviser mount practical?

He seems to be selling Beltronics radar detectors too; How do these compare to the Passport 8500 X50 performance wise?

Thanks for reading.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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get a V1...it saved my dad a big ticket today on I-75 going about 85 with traffic. It really is worth every penny.
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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My RX65 was doing the job. Its hooked into a Laserpro 905. Just replaced it with Bel STI cuz I can still use the Laserpro. In VA, fines have gone up to +$3000 so I need to be invisible. If I did not own the Laserpro, I would have a V1.
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Get a valentine one.
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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All the "get a Valentine one" comments spound great,
but the comment has to be joined up with a comment like
"it saved me when ..." or some other reason.
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by madmik
My RX65 was doing the job. Its hooked into a Laserpro 905. Just replaced it with Bel STI cuz I can still use the Laserpro. In VA, fines have gone up to +$3000 so I need to be invisible. If I did not own the Laserpro, I would have a V1.

First of all, is that a port and polished VQ30 intake manifold?

Next, how does the Bel STI stay stealth if it's in the window?

Thanks!!!
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by spdfreak
All the "get a Valentine one" comments spound great,
but the comment has to be joined up with a comment like
"it saved me when ..." or some other reason.
Time for you to heed your own advice spdfreak, you have been rattling on for 3 pages now about how the 8500 is so great, yet you haven't posted a single personal experience supporting that. All you have done, has been spout off uneducated comments that have all been counterpointed immediately. You have also shown your complete lack of motivation to do real research on the subject you seem to be so interested in.

Originally Posted by spdfreak
First of all, is that a port and polished VQ30 intake manifold?
Next, how does the Bel STI stay stealth if it's in the window?
Thanks!!!
Why would a 6th gen driver have a p&p'ed VQ30 lower IM?
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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8500 X50>V1 Hands down. Did a side by side comparison of my friends on the way to the beach.



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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Regime
Time for you to heed your own advice spdfreak, you have been rattling on for 3 pages now about how the 8500 is so great, yet you haven't posted a single personal experience supporting that. All you have done, has been spout off uneducated comments that have all been counterpointed immediately. You have also shown your complete lack of motivation to do real research on the subject you seem to be so interested in.



Why would a 6th gen driver have a p&p'ed VQ30 lower IM?
My V1 has saved me countless times, its become a fixture in my car and I will never drive the highways without one. There is no sense is trying to depict every situation in which the V1 has helped anyone, buy it and then tell us how you like it.
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Regime
Time for you to heed your own advice spdfreak, you have been rattling on for 3 pages now about how the 8500 is so great, yet you haven't posted a single personal experience supporting that. All you have done, has been spout off uneducated comments that have all been counterpointed immediately. You have also shown your complete lack of motivation to do real research on the subject you seem to be so interested in.



Why would a 6th gen driver have a p&p'ed VQ30 lower IM?

I have been rattling on and on, thats correct, good observation . The unit saves me almost every time I use the car, litterly. If it's a trip to the supermarket or a 1 1/2 hour drive down to an engagement party, this thing saves me. I simply use a rabbit which is another term for a guy speeding ahead of you and when he gets shot with either laser of the good old radar, I have far more than the amount of distance that I need to slow down.

Now to your next rant, it's my missunderstanding. I didn't play close attention to the fact that the 3.0 intake manifolds are made out of plastic, so your correct.

If you need me to keep on making you sound correct and special please don't hesitate to correct my spelling and what not.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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I don't currently have a radar detector but I've used 'em before. I do have a CB radio that has helped me dodge a few tickets.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spdfreak
First of all, is that a port and polished VQ30 intake manifold?

Next, how does the Bel STI stay stealth if it's in the window?

Thanks!!!
Point taken. Dash mount is somewhat visible but it requires only a second to pull. Mine is mounted driver side, next to the A-pillar. With the tint, it's hard to notice.

VQ35 IM. Work in progress. Becoming a popular mod with 6th gen since phenolic spacers are now available.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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Iam looking to get one of these soon i heard Cobra's are good.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Who told you cobra's are good? They are the buick of the radar detector world. Buy an Escort 8500 X50. Best radar detector period check all the websites. Radar roy, radar detector . com, type best radar detector in google and it will become clear my friend the 8500 X50 is the best choice. I own one myself and it was the best 300 dollars I have ever spent to improve my driving experience.

Hope this helps.

FYI- the blue X50 costs 40 dollars more but there is no difference in performance, just blue L.E.D's.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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I think the cobras can be compaired to the Dawoo's.

If you live in VA you will want a stealth unit, so the cops can't detect the detector. The bel STI is the one to use if thats your sichuation.

Other than that, it comes down to the Escort Passport 8500 X50 or the Valentine One. Deppending on your budget one of these should fit your requirements.
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Has anyone noticed decreased sensitivity when they have their detector behind the tint strip?
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Has anyone noticed decreased sensitivity when they have their detector behind the tint strip?
Yep...especially if you have 5% tint....use the custom Z mount and get some ceramic tint like I did and you're good to go.
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Yes, you do have reduced range when the radar detector is behind the tint. Go with the Z mount. I have one and it works great.

Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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hmm...well..last one i had sucked, it was 70 bucks.. it would beep but the cop was already there.. ya i know i should of got a better one..but i'm poor..
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Not all detectors perform better when they are place high on the winsheild.

IIRC the Valentine One works better when placed higher, but the Passport 8500 X50 works well when placed 3-4 inches above the dash.

Ceck out radardetector.net
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spdfreak
Not all detectors perform better when they are place high on the winsheild.

IIRC the Valentine One works better when placed higher, but the Passport 8500 X50 works well when placed 3-4 inches above the dash.

Ceck out radardetector.net
I did check out the website but couldn't find it....

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=7645

from radardetector.net

WHERE TO MOUNT IT

www.guysoflidar.com/detectormounting.html

Generally the best place to mount a detector is up high, by the rear view mirror. This allows it to get the best view of the road and gives the maximum range. There is also another reason to put it up high. Thieves can't see it and if you do get pulled over, there is less chance of a cop seeing it. If a cop sees a radar detector, forget any chance of talking your way out of the ticket. The only thing to watch is some cars have a metal film tint along the top of the windscreen and this can block the radar and LIDAR which reduces the effectiveness.
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by spdfreak
Not all detectors perform better when they are place high on the winsheild.
IIRC the Valentine One works better when placed higher, but the Passport 8500 X50 works well when placed 3-4 inches above the dash.
Ceck out radardetector.net
Seems that your own link contradicts you. Most people on there that talk about mounting suggest up high. Every single test I have read, say they mount high, which is where all the onsite factory reps all say to mount them. in most instances it is the factory reps installing them in the test cars to avoid improper mounting affecting the test results.
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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I have one and I love it but only part I hate is the freaking VA police pull u over for nothing. And you don't have anything to backup or argue with that you were not speeding....I Just hope I don't get a ticket during my drive to SC hopefully all goes well LoL
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Regime
Seems that your own link contradicts you. Most people on there that talk about mounting suggest up high. Every single test I have read, say they mount high, which is where all the onsite factory reps all say to mount them. in most instances it is the factory reps installing them in the test cars to avoid improper mounting affecting the test results.

What I wrote "IIRC" which stands for if-I-recall-correctly, meaning I can be wrong.

He's quoting one post, without any additional posts how are we supposed to know the contex and the conversation. I'll find the link that backs up what I read.

Mounting high mostly helps for the rear as seats, people and small rear windows disturb the radars rear sensors.
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by maximalxl
I have one and I love it but only part I hate is the freaking VA police pull u over for nothing. And you don't have anything to backup or argue with that you were not speeding....I Just hope I don't get a ticket during my drive to SC hopefully all goes well LoL

Use a stealth detector.
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spdfreak
What I wrote "IIRC" which stands for if-I-recall-correctly, meaning I can be wrong.
He's quoting one post, without any additional posts how are we supposed to know the contex and the conversation. I'll find the link that backs up what I read.
Mounting high mostly helps for the rear as seats, people and small rear windows
disturb the radars rear sensors.
I completely understand he was quoting a single post, I was talking about the fact you linked to Radardetector.net...That is "your link" in my mind. I went a read multiple threads on that forum, and all of them agreed mounting high was the best thing.
When the Factory reps i.e. the people that make the detectors, say to mount it higher for better performance, then you would think maybe they might know what they are talking about. Which again is what I posted previously when I was talking about actual tests being done. Here is a nice quote for you from the V1 manual
"Detector performance is enhanced by a high mounting
position. Two reasons. For radar, a longer sight line to
the horizon always helps. For laser, moving away from
the hood and its sun reflections helps a lot.
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That there contradicts your theory that there is no improvement moving it higher up the windshield.
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Regime
I completely understand he was quoting a single post, I was talking about the fact you linked to Radardetector.net...That is "your link" in my mind. I went a read multiple threads on that forum, and all of them agreed mounting high was the best thing.
When the Factory reps i.e. the people that make the detectors, say to mount it higher for better performance, then you would think maybe they might know what they are talking about. Which again is what I posted previously when I was talking about actual tests being done. Here is a nice quote for you from the V1 manual
"Detector performance is enhanced by a high mounting
position. Two reasons. For radar, a longer sight line to
the horizon always helps. For laser, moving away from
the hood and its sun reflections helps a lot.
"
That there contradicts your theory that there is no improvement moving it higher up the windshield.

This thread will go on forever .

What you quoted is for the Valentine One, but the Passport 8400 x50 is not that way. Give me some time and I will find the post.
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Can't find the links, so till one of us prove which works better from a real life test, we won't know for sure.

The test would have to be performed as follows. Low mount and distance vs high mount and distance.

Untill I find a speed sign and borrow a gps unit I won't be able to perform the test.
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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I've done many tests with my V1 and using my Z-mount has yielded the best reception...mind you I have 5% tint on the top of the windshield so I never could go all the way up. I live 30 seconds from a police station, and for X and Ka band, the higher up the better the range.
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
I've done many tests with my V1 and using my Z-mount has yielded the best reception...mind you I have 5% tint on the top of the windshield so I never could go all the way up. I live 30 seconds from a police station, and for X and Ka band, the higher up the better the range.

I happen to know that the Valentine works better high mounted, but I disagree that the Passport 8500 X50 works better high mounted.
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Taken from www.escortradar.com...


Can I mount my detector on my sun visor?
We generally do not recommend mounting detectors on the sun visor because the dark tint at the top of most windshields significantly reduces laser detection range, and the GPS-powered features of the Passport 9500i will not function if satellite reception is blocked. So, we do not include a visor mount as a standard accessory. While not recommended, we do offer an optional visor mount that can be seen by clicking this visor clip link.

As a rule of thumb, a lower detector mounting position is better for laser and a higher position is better for radar. But, in most vehicles, the difference in height between the top and bottom of the windshield is not enough to make any perceptible difference in radar reception. It's best to mount your detector where it has a clear field of view front and rear (plus a clear view of the sky for the Passport 9500i), and where you can see it without obstructing your own view of the road.
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Thanks maximadave for proving my point.

I looked through the radardetector.net forums and couldn't find much with solid info.
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Yeah its common info that lower mounting is better for laser because they aim for your front bumper (or license plate in states that require them)...however escort says don't mount it high because of the tint (which should be common knowledge). thus I say its still possible that mounting a x50on a Z mount (hung from the rearview mirror) could yield some better range, but I have a V1 so I get plenty of range regardless.
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It would also depend on the car too on how big the rear window is
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Hey, just to let you know RADAR detectors don't really work like you think they do. When you hear the alarm go off its too late your speed has already been displayed on the RADAR unit in the police car. Besides, most states use Visual Speed Estimation as the primary probable cause with verification by a calibrated RADAR unit. In other words a certified Law Enforcement Officer can look at you vehicle and tell what speed you are traveling at with in 3 to 5 miles per hour. I know they don't make a detector for that.
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Originally Posted by monkeyfist
Hey, just to let you know RADAR detectors don't really work like you think they do. When you hear the alarm go off its too late your speed has already been displayed on the RADAR unit in the police car. Besides, most states use Visual Speed Estimation as the primary probable cause with verification by a calibrated RADAR unit. In other words a certified Law Enforcement Officer can look at you vehicle and tell what speed you are traveling at with in 3 to 5 miles per hour. I know they don't make a detector for that.
Wow you are so wrong in so many ways...only radar detection that is a consensus null feature at times can be laser. Also, I'd love to see some specific cases where a cops guesstimate has actually won in court...feel free to give me the case cite I can search LexisNexis.



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