View Poll Results: What is your feeling about radar detectors?
I have one and i love it
151
59.68%
I wish i had one
85
33.60%
Radar detector? Thats cheating just drive the speed limit
8
3.16%
Theyre illegal in my state
9
3.56%
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Radar Detectors
08-20-2007, 09:10 AM
#201
Originally Posted by monkeyfist
Hey, just to let you know RADAR detectors don't really work like you think they do. When you hear the alarm go off its too late your speed has already been displayed on the RADAR unit in the police car.
08-20-2007, 11:46 AM
#202
Originally Posted by monkeyfist
Hey, just to let you know RADAR detectors don't really work like you think they do. When you hear the alarm go off its too late your speed has already been displayed on the RADAR unit in the police car. Besides, most states use Visual Speed Estimation as the primary probable cause with verification by a calibrated RADAR unit. In other words a certified Law Enforcement Officer can look at you vehicle and tell what speed you are traveling at with in 3 to 5 miles per hour. I know they don't make a detector for that.
If they didn't work, some better than others, do you really believe the companies would sell millions of these devices?
08-20-2007, 05:57 PM
#203
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I know this as I am certified in two states in visual speed estimation. The State of New York requires that a spped be estimated first and verified by RADAR. I repeat VERIFIED BY RADAR. By the way the amount of time it takes for you RADAR dectector to tell you that you are being picked up by RADAR is miliseconds. There is not a person in the world that can produce a milisecond reaction time. Oh, and by the way the same companies that make RADAR dectectors also make RADAR units that police use. There are also unmarked cars that are used well as pacing traffic units and thats a whole other topic of conversation. Sorry if you don't like it but its the truth. I do it about everyday I work.
08-30-2007, 10:25 PM
#205
Originally Posted by monkeyfist
I know this as I am certified in two states in visual speed estimation. The State of New York requires that a spped be estimated first and verified by RADAR. I repeat VERIFIED BY RADAR. By the way the amount of time it takes for you RADAR dectector to tell you that you are being picked up by RADAR is miliseconds. There is not a person in the world that can produce a milisecond reaction time. Oh, and by the way the same companies that make RADAR dectectors also make RADAR units that police use. There are also unmarked cars that are used well as pacing traffic units and thats a whole other topic of conversation. Sorry if you don't like it but its the truth. I do it about everyday I work.
I use the k-40 calibre hidden detector with the laser defuser. The downside to this system is cost, around $2300.00 installed. At least one can easily remove the system because it's wireless and gets power directly from the battery.
08-31-2007, 07:41 AM
#206
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 40
I understand your statement. There is alot of truth about the "lazy Officers" who leave their RADARS on. Truth is they probably wouldn't stop you anyway as they leave their RADAR on to avoid having to do anything. The same can be said about RADAR detectors. People rely on them too much. Often when you are driving through a city you RADAR detector signals from other equipment that produce a Radio signal (Dopler is the actual system RADARS work off of using sound waves). For those of us who work traffic on a regular basis use a visual speed estimation first and then verify it on RADAR at that point its too late. I have seen it time and time again people swearing at their expensive RADAR dectector... the point is be smart. You can buy the most expensive piece of equipment but unless you really know how to use it and use it wisely you efforts are useless. I have writen well over 2,000 speeding tickets and have never lost a case. I know what I'm talking about.
08-31-2007, 06:43 PM
#207
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 267
I think what monkeyfist was referring to is leaving the radar gun off. Newer ones don't need to warm up or be calibrated every single time they are turned on. The officer sees the speeder, flips on his radar unit, and gets a read out. Yes, your radar detector is sitting on your dash having an orgasm. But it is too late. Now if the officer in question is sitting there with the unit running you can detect it from a ways out and you're good.
09-01-2007, 11:14 AM
#208
Originally Posted by monkeyfist
I understand your statement. There is alot of truth about the "lazy Officers" who leave their RADARS on. Truth is they probably wouldn't stop you anyway as they leave their RADAR on to avoid having to do anything. The same can be said about RADAR detectors. People rely on them too much. Often when you are driving through a city you RADAR detector signals from other equipment that produce a Radio signal (Dopler is the actual system RADARS work off of using sound waves). For those of us who work traffic on a regular basis use a visual speed estimation first and then verify it on RADAR at that point its too late. I have seen it time and time again people swearing at their expensive RADAR dectector... the point is be smart. You can buy the most expensive piece of equipment but unless you really know how to use it and use it wisely you efforts are useless. I have writen well over 2,000 speeding tickets and have never lost a case. I know what I'm talking about.
09-01-2007, 11:16 AM
#209
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Levittown PA
Posts: 989
Originally Posted by slickrick
you are such a liar...I work at a law firm that does tickets and criminal defense, and there is no chance in hell you have NEVER lost a case. Quit feeding your fake ego.
LOL Typical Noob. i just recently got a radar dectector like a monthy ago. a Cobra.
09-01-2007, 05:48 PM
#210
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Originally Posted by monkeyfist
I understand your statement. There is alot of truth about the "lazy Officers" who leave their RADARS on. Truth is they probably wouldn't stop you anyway as they leave their RADAR on to avoid having to do anything. The same can be said about RADAR detectors. People rely on them too much. Often when you are driving through a city you RADAR detector signals from other equipment that produce a Radio signal (Dopler is the actual system RADARS work off of using sound waves). For those of us who work traffic on a regular basis use a visual speed estimation first and then verify it on RADAR at that point its too late. I have seen it time and time again people swearing at their expensive RADAR dectector... the point is be smart. You can buy the most expensive piece of equipment but unless you really know how to use it and use it wisely you efforts are useless. I have writen well over 2,000 speeding tickets and have never lost a case. I know what I'm talking about.
09-01-2007, 08:47 PM
#211
aka The Doom Ship
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 1,788
Maan, when I had my Escort Solo S2 it would detect Ka band long before I saw any cop and any cop saw me. And that was a cordless detector. I think I'm gonna get the Bel Sti Driver next. Kinda pricey but it has the accessories I want plus all the reviews have been positive.
I had my Solo 2 for about a year and I lost count of how many times it picked up Ka band from a cops radar and I had plenty of time to slow down before the cop even saw me; I'm talkin almost a mile away!
Can't tell me radars don't work.
I had my Solo 2 for about a year and I lost count of how many times it picked up Ka band from a cops radar and I had plenty of time to slow down before the cop even saw me; I'm talkin almost a mile away!
Can't tell me radars don't work.
09-02-2007, 12:59 AM
#212
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NY
Posts: 1,113
Originally Posted by AllBlackMax
Maan, when I had my Escort Solo S2 it would detect Ka band long before I saw any cop and any cop saw me. And that was a cordless detector. I think I'm gonna get the Bel Sti Driver next. Kinda pricey but it has the accessories I want plus all the reviews have been positive.
I had my Solo 2 for about a year and I lost count of how many times it picked up Ka band from a cops radar and I had plenty of time to slow down before the cop even saw me; I'm talkin almost a mile away!
Can't tell me radars don't work.
I had my Solo 2 for about a year and I lost count of how many times it picked up Ka band from a cops radar and I had plenty of time to slow down before the cop even saw me; I'm talkin almost a mile away!
Can't tell me radars don't work.
I have the Passport 8500 X50 and it's great!
I have been reading this thread for a while now and can't believe the comments people make about the detectors not working if....The detectors are only as good as the one who designed them and as good as the ones using them. Don't be the first one in a pack of cars speeding.
09-08-2007, 07:06 AM
#213
aka The Doom Ship
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 1,788
I also purchased the 8500 X50 but have some concerns. I've had the radar installed for about 2 days and I haven't picked up much of anything. It's disturbing because the cops in my area almost always ride around with their radar on. I know this because when I had my Solo S2 I would be riding around town and all of sudden K band would go off and low and behold it would be a cop about a mile or so away. I've been driving around town for the past 2 days and I haven't picked up ANY band except Ka ONCE. Imma have to give them a call Monday.
09-08-2007, 12:00 PM
#214
aka The Doom Ship
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 1,788
Upon further review it seems to me the Passport 8500 X50 doesn't work any better than the Solo S2 at least when it comes to K and Ka band detection. I was under the impression that the corded detectors worked so much better than the cordless S2 but so far that doesn't seem to be the case. I'm contemplating sending this one back for a refund.
09-17-2007, 06:47 AM
#219
I just got a 9500i Escort passport, for $200. that thing is amazing, it reduces false signal with the new gps feature which, and you can lockout the false signal when it occurs. by far the best passport ever made
09-26-2007, 06:23 PM
#220
I have a Passport 8500 and it's awesome. Saved me several times. Like somebody else said: don't be the first in a pack of speeding cars....You will be caught with pop radar or laser. I was caught with laser last year, the 8500 was screaming, I slammed on the brakes and it was too late. caught me doing 60 in a 25. However, it does really well with K or Ka as opposed to laser.
Last edited by Majestic; 09-27-2007 at 05:00 AM.
haha that's kinda funny, i wish that was true
09-28-2007, 06:05 PM
#224
Just my two cents here,
I’ve put together this advanced cal formula for everyone; you are welcome
V1 > Escort 9500i > Escort 8500 = beltronics < anything else
Also, Any name brand laser shifters are preferable. Escort or Blinder
-My g/f now uses my blue (blue=better) 8500 escort radar in her car. It detects radar from at the least 1 mile away on the interstate.
-I use the 9500i gps escort which lets me block out those annoying readings from buildings. It detects radar the same as the 8500 but it let’s you have more options. You can use voice instead of bleeps, mark of speed traps, Auto dim, Auto volume ( saves my azz with the music), and doesn’t look too shabby in my black interior maxima. d; ) It is the lazy man radar, no more hitting mute. d; )
-I also run the zr3 laser shifter since cops are becoming azzes where I live. It is easy to install even for a novice like myself. It ran me about 299 off of ebay instead of retail 499. I have been hit with laser 3 times with it on and I have been over the speed limit by 10 each time and have not received a ticket.
-I have never owned a V1 but I do believe that it detects radar the best of all radar detectors. Why? It has more surface area to capture the signal than any other radar detector. It uses directional arrows to help you realize where the radars source is coming from.
I copied this from FunLovinMaxima-------“Radar rarely falses on the highway, so when it does go off i switch into the right lane and slow down discreetly. the trick is to think of the RD as a tool; you have to learn how to use it effectively in order to reap its benefit.”
Also copied from Aiceman-------“Don't lead the pack and don't bring up the rear and don't tail gate. If an officer has a choice of who in the the pack he will pull over it will be one of those three. With today's technology the only thing a RD does is tells you you have been clocked. Even in the middle 90's when I ran radar I could lock on your speed from 3/4 mile and you wouldn't even have time to lift.”
Copied from Maxim(a)SerjVQ ---------------I had my 8500 stuck on my passenger seat for awhile when i was having issues with the suction cups. it didnt even go off when i got laser'd. (wow..... was it supposed to work from your seat? …. Hahahhaha )
In conclusion, if you do any driving at all, a radar detector and a laser jammer are worthy investments. Why you ask? Just get a ticket and come ask me that question in a year or so. Penalties are ridiculous.
The radar sites are great for info but you will be safe with any name brand besides cobra. (shatty) Personal opinion is the real deciding factor in quality of products. Thus V1 and a laser system ftw. Have fun losing your money on toys!
I’ve put together this advanced cal formula for everyone; you are welcome
V1 > Escort 9500i > Escort 8500 = beltronics < anything else
Also, Any name brand laser shifters are preferable. Escort or Blinder
-My g/f now uses my blue (blue=better) 8500 escort radar in her car. It detects radar from at the least 1 mile away on the interstate.
-I use the 9500i gps escort which lets me block out those annoying readings from buildings. It detects radar the same as the 8500 but it let’s you have more options. You can use voice instead of bleeps, mark of speed traps, Auto dim, Auto volume ( saves my azz with the music), and doesn’t look too shabby in my black interior maxima. d; ) It is the lazy man radar, no more hitting mute. d; )
-I also run the zr3 laser shifter since cops are becoming azzes where I live. It is easy to install even for a novice like myself. It ran me about 299 off of ebay instead of retail 499. I have been hit with laser 3 times with it on and I have been over the speed limit by 10 each time and have not received a ticket.
-I have never owned a V1 but I do believe that it detects radar the best of all radar detectors. Why? It has more surface area to capture the signal than any other radar detector. It uses directional arrows to help you realize where the radars source is coming from.
I copied this from FunLovinMaxima-------“Radar rarely falses on the highway, so when it does go off i switch into the right lane and slow down discreetly. the trick is to think of the RD as a tool; you have to learn how to use it effectively in order to reap its benefit.”
Also copied from Aiceman-------“Don't lead the pack and don't bring up the rear and don't tail gate. If an officer has a choice of who in the the pack he will pull over it will be one of those three. With today's technology the only thing a RD does is tells you you have been clocked. Even in the middle 90's when I ran radar I could lock on your speed from 3/4 mile and you wouldn't even have time to lift.”
Copied from Maxim(a)SerjVQ ---------------I had my 8500 stuck on my passenger seat for awhile when i was having issues with the suction cups. it didnt even go off when i got laser'd. (wow..... was it supposed to work from your seat? …. Hahahhaha )
In conclusion, if you do any driving at all, a radar detector and a laser jammer are worthy investments. Why you ask? Just get a ticket and come ask me that question in a year or so. Penalties are ridiculous.
The radar sites are great for info but you will be safe with any name brand besides cobra. (shatty) Personal opinion is the real deciding factor in quality of products. Thus V1 and a laser system ftw. Have fun losing your money on toys!
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