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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Help Stop Rising Gas Prices ! ! !

-----SORRY TO POST THIS HERE BUT THE OFF TOPIC FORUM IS KINDA DEAD ---

Hey guys, i frequent a site called b20vtec. While there i came across this thread on an idea to stop the high gas prices but it won't work without everyones help. I'm personally starting this type of thread on every car site that i have ( lol i don't have sites where people gather other than car sites...i'm not a myspace kind of guy ). If you feel it can be done, just copy and paste this thread on the sites you know.

Anyway, If your really interested in trying to stop high gas prices please read to the end of the post. If you feel that it can work please try and follow suit. This is already being posted up on forums around the web. If we can get as many ppl in on this as possible then we might be able to make an impact ! Please keep comments positive about this. If your take on it is " well it might work but alot of ppl are lazy etc " or anything of the like, then your one of the ppl that are too lazy to try and stop getting screwed in the ***. All it takes is 3 minz to send this to the people in your email list. Please keep an open mind about this.

And if any mods see this, do you think it can be possible to put this as a sticky in every forum as everyone doesn't frequent each forum section on here. And for this to work, we'd need as many people as possible. Thanks for your time.

Anyway, onto the idea.

Here is the link for those that want to see the orig thread.




For those too lazy to click the link...

Gas Warz

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Time to fight back people.....Gas price wars begin now!!
Jon Clegg's note: ExxonMobile has reported a RECORD breaking 10 BILLION dollar profit this year. That means that the gas prices are only this high because ExxonMobile WANTS them this high. THEY ARE RIPPING US OFF!!!!

on to this ****

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We are going to hit close to $4.00 a gallon by the end of summer. Want gasoline
prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action.

Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea:
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day"
campaign that was going around last April or May!



The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an
inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of
this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.



Please read it and join with us!



By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is
super cheap. Me too! It is currently $2.75 for regular unleaded in my town.



Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50-$1.75, we need to
take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the
marketplace.... not sellers.



With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need
to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down
is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas!



And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.



How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But
we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price
war.



Here's the idea:



For the rest of this year, DON"T purchase ANY gasoline from the two
biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not
selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they
reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.



But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp (sic) out
on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to
reach millions of people!!



I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it
to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least
ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches
the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
consumers!



If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends
each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level
further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all you
have to do is send this to 10 people and DON"T purchase ANY gasoline from
EXXON and MOBIL. That's all.




How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to
ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't
think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can
make a difference.


If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.


PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND
KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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BTW Off Topic is not "Kinda Dead" it's access is limited to those who donate...
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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Also that post is off base anyway, the oil companies are held by the short and curlies of world demand, they make less that 1 cent a gallon over the yearon petrol/gas.

Mike
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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this thread will die before the day's over...

wanna save money? make use of public transportation, or ride a bicycle.
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Its a great idea, the prices don't go down because of people like some of the others that have posted here already and they know it wont work because they know that gas companies only make 1 cent a gallon, because thats what the gas companies tell us and they are always right!

Just listen to the man and don't buy exxon or mobil!
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Where does SHELL gas fall in on this??

Are they related to exxon or mobil?
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Why do these threads always pop up when gas goes up?
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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i don't think a multi-billion dollar, top-3 fortune 500 company is going to lose sleep at night cus a few hundred people stop buying their gas, in fact, i doubt they'll notice.

theres no way in hell you'll get THAT many people to take the effort and not use exxon mobil gas.
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Must be noobs at life to believe this kind of stuff.
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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I don't buy there gas anyway.....
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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I don't buy there gas anyway.....


You are too busy working on the car so you never can drive it
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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This same "great idea" comes up every time gas prices go up.....

a few things to think about:
1. The petroleum COMPANIES do not control the price of oil, OPEC does. Exxon/Mobil have no say on what OPEC decides, as it is an independent cartel made up of oil producing nations, not companies. As the price of crude oil rises, the prices of gasoline and other petroleum products rises accordingly.

2. The US still has the cheapest gas prices in the world, outside of OPEC countries themselves. Try going to Europe and buying gas and then tell me if $3 a gallon, or even $4 a gallon is expensive. I lived in Italy 10 years ago and gas was almost $2 per LITER...That's about $6 per gallon - and that was back when gas prices here were around $1 a gallon.

3. Even if the entire US stopped using ALL gas, it would affect JACK. China and India's quickly growing industries are voraciously consuming oil at a greater and greater pace, particularly China. Oil prices are rising because the demand between China and the US is starting to outpace supply, especially now that there are Oil sourcing problems in Nigeria and Venezuela, two of the world's biggest suppliers....up next, Iran problems.

4. As long as the US keeps buying more and more big SUV's, the oil producers know that there are plenty of customers to guzzle their gas.

I personally use Shell Vpower gas usually, but if I need gas, I'm not going to waste a gallon trying to find a "non-Exxon/Mobil/BP" stations.


If gas is too expensive for you at $3 a gallon, you shouldn't be driving a 20-mpg Maxima, you should buy a geo metro, where you can get 50mph and never ***** about gas prices again.

IBTL, and stop posting these "new ideas"....
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Also that post is off base anyway, the oil companies are held by the short and curlies of world demand, they make less that 1 cent a gallon over the yearon petrol/gas.

Mike
Its not always 1 cent, but you are right

Most gas stations now barely break even with gas sales, and big stations like BP and Shell that have mini-marts actually sell gas at a loss because they know they will make it up with their stores.

So dont buy gas all you want, its not going to affect anything
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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I would support this, but here's the catch:

One , ExxonMobil must , just like every other 10 Bil $ giant, own subsidiaries and marketing divisions. I know that in Illinois, I don't see very many Exxon stations out here. I see lotsa BP/Amoco, Shell, and a SH!tLOAD of no-name gas companies. Unless I;m to believe that the gas I get actually belongs to Wal-Mat/Kroger/Thorntons/Mom & Pops from refinery to pump, I have the feeling that if you do any kind of regular driving, youre gonna be buying Exxon gas whether you like or know it or not.

Plus, what of all the folks who don't live in big cities? Down here in rural Carbondale, Illinois , theres maybe TWO gas suppliers, and that's generous for a town like this. I have reason to believe that in many other , far more remote places there is exactly ONE supplier, and are you gonna tell rural people who you are gonna NEED for this boycott to work to drive 50 to 100 miles out of their way to NOT buy gas?

Besides, simple displacement means that , since the demand is the same, the $ just goes to some other robber baron oil company instead of Exxon. So , if this plan works, Mobil takes the 10 Bil prize, while Exxon will just fall to # 2 or 3 on the Money list, and boy, I'll imagine they'll cry at a mere "8 Billion Dollar profit" .

ITs funny, cause in Europe, continent of the Autobahn, gas there costs north of 5 bucks per liter , and I have yet to behold a mass strike or boycott,or any kind of congressional hearing or antitrust suit over prices. If anything , it teaches them to be responsible for their consumption. To be honest,(Not that im for extreme prices) 5$ here would teach us a lesson about conserving resources.And make it clear that the $100 fuel bill is because you bought a Chevy Avalanche as "family transport", not because of Exxon Mobil or any other fuel supplier......
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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just to stir the pot some more here, i went past a gas station today, closed for the day, that had premium for 2.45. i talked to my buddy, he knew the station, says the usually (and obviously) sell out very fast, within a day sometimes. but he was 40-50 cents cheaper than everyone else around, even one right up the street. obviously this guy isnt profiting as much as the other stations, and it was an independent station, not a chain, but it makes me think that these other station owners (the independent up the street was at 2.99 for 93) could be a little less greedy and give some people a break like this guy.
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
You are too busy working on the car so you never can drive it
Damn rust
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:52 AM
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If you don't like the prices, and have this large amount of time to think of ways to get at OPEC, then take that time and come up with something real. Like a alt. source for power. That will open their eyes. Because that would effect them on a globe scale. If you want to save gas drive smart, and buy one less mixed drink, and dinner out a week.

Mark up on gas is about .25 That's what the place I work for marks it up. OUr last gas drop was on 4-11-06, and cost was $2.57 a gallon our cost.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 05:05 AM
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1a. Like i said in the beginning i'm sorry that i posted the thread in here but seriously...lol i'm not about to pay for a site just for some car information. Even the bimmer sites don't have pay for access lol.

1b. Why does everyone cry because people don't donate and have a comment about it ? If i knew that you'd had to donate just to use a friggin forum for OFF TOPIC THREADS i would have laughed even harder before i tried to post a thread. Seriously, this site needs more sponsors or something for everyone to have to donate to get access to certain areas ( like the friggin search ). I'm not complaining because i use the poor mans google search and if i can't post in a certain forum or something, i surely won't lost sleep over it. But it's funny to see ppl find it confusing that other people " just don't donate ". LOL even sites with cars that cost 2x as much as max's don't have a " pay for access " type of thing lol, what is this ? **** ? lol. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DONATE AND STFU OR LEAVE is the type of response i'm expecting from that one so ehh lol.

2. All i was doing was passing the word. I didn't have to worry about gas prices until this year so i'm not one of those people that " start a thread like this everytime gas goes up " I personally don't have a maxima but i do come to this site because i like them and a friend of mine owns one. Anyway, I just wanted to spread the word to people that may be wondering if there may be a way to fight the rise of gas prices. The logic seemed simple enough and to the avg joe that wouldn't know what oil companies or any of the big wigs make off of selling this stuff would be interested. If anyone had actual knowledge of why an idea such as this wouldn't work ( besides the fact of trying to get it out to so many people ) it would have been more effective to just reply with the knowledge that would make the plan useless and put the thread in it's place. Instead there's a bunch of numbnutz ( not including the people that actually posted FACTUAL evidence that an idea such as this wouldn't work, thank you very much to those guys as you just shed some important light on the topic...this is a forum where things are to be DISCUSSED ) rambling on about " this thread sucks " or " it's not going to work because your gay " or " GTFO NOOB " ( which is funny because i've been looking at this site for years, i just never really had the need to make posts so frequently ) really isn't needed. There was more respect for a thread on honda sites where the idea would either be given support of given respectful reasonings on why it wouldn't work.

In all seriousness, thanks to all the people that shot down the idea with proper debate and discussion skills. I haven't had the chance to research the idea and really wouldn't know where to start which is why people bring the idea to forums to get other peoples opinions/further grasp on the subject. What ya'll say also makes even more sense and pretty much argues the point of the idea as being nill. Thanks for the info ( for the respectful guys ).

To those that are getting butthurt because they bumped a thread they felt negatively about and they're not in the class of people with class and respect. You'll soon be able to relax and have a cup of coffee and realize it really wasn't that serious. If you really didn't want to see the thread or want to have people following an idea that didn't have proper background to sustain itself you shouldn't have bumped the thread numbnutz. Comments like " noob " and the like really don't do anything but let MORE people see the thread as it's being boosted up to the top of the list.

With all of those comments this thread stayed alive long enough for people with something useful to say to go ahead and say it ( yea, i don't know if you guys realize it or not but...not everyone thinks the gas companies policies and practices are common knowledge ). Stop getting so butthurt at threads you don't like. Go read a book or look at ****. And to those that may reply " well i actually get paid for being on the computer at work etc " then go do what your getting paid to do. I'm sure it's not to look " cool " on a car site with corny remarks.


In closing, thanks to those with class that understand how to attack something that can be disproven and took the time out to do it. I'll let the guys that i found this information about. To the uber kewl guys that used all their brain power to come up with " it won't work " and the witty banter included...Thanks as well. You've also shown why it's really not worth paying for access on a car site by your maturity level. And to anyone else that may have a problem with the thread, seriously, don't reply or even finish reading a thread you'd feel would waste your time. The time you take reading and replying to something that really gets on your nerves is time and energy you could have used to make a sandwich and forget the thread even existed.

EDIT: Oh yea and just to reiterate, i don't really have a problem with gas prices, if i couldn't afford them i'd be on metro transit or a bike. I was just trying to pass the word of an idea that came across my lap. If people felt this serious about a thread on something that can easily be disproven then lol they're really sad. I see more respect for a thread on FRIGGIN BENCH RACING !!! lol " I have a race coming up and i have xxx mods...do you think i'll win ? " LMFAO !!! are you serious ? by not flaming those guys your giving them the imperssion that it's not only ok for threads such as that but actually incouraged LMFAO BENCH RACERS !!! LMAO !!!
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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Someone explain to me how the price of a gallon of gas can change .10-14. within 12 hours and that station did not receive any new gas. I could understand if a tanker arived with fresh gas that had the new price of gas in it but when the station did not receive new gas and the price still goes up I know that the price should not change....
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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First of all, it's Exxon Mobil Corp (no 'e' in Mobil) Exxon Mobil is *one* company, not two as they claim. There's your first tip this person is clueless.

Second, they're attacking Exxon more than likely because they posted a record profit for a U.S. company in F2005. Exxon's profit margin remained within 1% point of every profit they have posted since the beginning of time.

Gas companies operate on a ~10% margin. 10% of 2.75/gallon is a lot more than 10% of $1.50 gallon. Exxon isn't gouging anyone. That's how you run a healthy business and they happen to be in a good industry.

When you operate on a nearly fixed profit margin, if costs and subsequent revenues skyrocket, so will profits. A $40B profit is good for capitalism, good for America and our economy, and great for anyone who owns Exxon Mobil stock...which includes everyone of us who has a 401k because Exxon is included in every index fund sold on the market.

And gas would be cheaper if Democrats would allow Republicans to pass bills to subsidize U.S. oil refinery construction. Liberals claim that is just supporting 'big business' which is something horrible in their minds(God forbid we encourage economic growth). There are actually fewer U.S. refinieries today than in the 1980's because Democrat-sponsored environment bills passed under Clinton closed many of them down. Gas demand is going up and a Democratic Congress was closing refineries - brilliant. Thank God Al Gore didn't win in 2000 or we'd have even fewer.

Exxon imports oil at a faster rate than our refineries can convert it to gasoline because we don't have enough refineries. Compounding that was Hurricane Katrina destroyed many refineries along the GulfCoast where the bulk of U.S. refining is done. When your local gas station was plumb dry last summer, Exxon had tankers parked in the Gulf with nowhere to offload their oil - that's not Exxon's fault. Fewer refineries = higher refining cost and slower delivery to market = demand rises = prices rise. Look to Democrats when *****ing about gas prices, not Exxon.

There....I feel better :-)

p.s. vote Republican
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i think i liked the one about "let's speculate which oil companies are from the Middle East and boycott them!" better.

honestly, you don't think if every would boycott big Exxon that the other suppliers would not be able to meet the spike in demand and buy from Exxon anyway????????


Our problem is that as a nation we favored independent transportation over public decades ago. We're all about Freedom in every aspect and driving the economy. So everyone buys cars. So we now pay for gas.



Only way to reduce gas cost is to create a surplus. by not driving. by giving up your independence of travel and rely on Mass Transit. which will still need gas to take you.

or alternative means of fuel.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Uhhh...do any of you realize that the majority of oil and its byproducts goes to industry, rather than the end consumer in the form of gas?

This spike and all future spikes in oil prices will hurt US industry more than the consumers. Of course it will trickle down to the consumers in the form of increased prices. So really...beside all the other BS posted above about boycotting, even if that was true, it would not negate the industrial oil consumption which is the majority consumer.

Cliffe Notes: We are f'd unless we come up with an alternative source of energy that U.S. industries can rely upon, and convert to inexpensively.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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and in comparing gas prices to other countries...if memory serves, isn't the price of the fuel itself pretty even across the board, with the main difference in pump prices being the taxes that other countries charge per price/liter?
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Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
1a. Like i said in the beginning i'm sorry that i posted the thread in here but seriously...lol i'm not about to pay for a site just for some car information. Even the bimmer sites don't have pay for access lol.
Then stay at the bimmer sites. We don't want you here.

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
1b. Why does everyone cry because people don't donate and have a comment about it ? If i knew that you'd had to donate just to use a friggin forum for OFF TOPIC THREADS i would have laughed even harder before i tried to post a thread. Seriously, this site needs more sponsors or something for everyone to have to donate to get access to certain areas ( like the friggin search ). I'm not complaining because i use the poor mans google search and if i can't post in a certain forum or something, i surely won't lost sleep over it. But it's funny to see ppl find it confusing that other people " just don't donate ". LOL even sites with cars that cost 2x as much as max's don't have a " pay for access " type of thing lol, what is this ? **** ? lol. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DONATE AND STFU OR LEAVE is the type of response i'm expecting from that one so ehh lol.
ummm ok so pretty much that paragraph was to tell us that cars that cost 2x the max don't make people pay for search. Your posting a worthless thread, so your going to get flamed for it. Go to the "bimmer forums" and search all you want....

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
2. All i was doing was passing the word. I didn't have to worry about gas prices until this year so i'm not one of those people that " start a thread like this everytime gas goes up " I personally don't have a maxima but i do come to this site because i like them and a friend of mine owns one. Anyway, I just wanted to spread the word to people that may be wondering if there may be a way to fight the rise of gas prices. The logic seemed simple enough and to the avg joe that wouldn't know what oil companies or any of the big wigs make off of selling this stuff would be interested. If anyone had actual knowledge of why an idea such as this wouldn't work ( besides the fact of trying to get it out to so many people ) it would have been more effective to just reply with the knowledge that would make the plan useless and put the thread in it's place. Instead there's a bunch of numbnutz ( not including the people that actually posted FACTUAL evidence that an idea such as this wouldn't work, thank you very much to those guys as you just shed some important light on the topic...this is a forum where things are to be DISCUSSED ) rambling on about " this thread sucks " or " it's not going to work because your gay " or " GTFO NOOB " ( which is funny because i've been looking at this site for years, i just never really had the need to make posts so frequently ) really isn't needed. There was more respect for a thread on honda sites where the idea would either be given support of given respectful reasonings on why it wouldn't work.
Your starting a thread that just happens to be when gas prices go up. So to non noobs who have been here for a while when you post a thread like this they have a right to respond the way they do. You come here cuz your friend has one? Youve been looking at this site for years? wow You want an award? Yep I wouldn't say years....more like year?

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Then go back to the honda sites. And I have seen some constructive reasons why this won't work. A couple hundred people arn't going to make a difference to a company that is nation wide. They won't even notice if that happens.

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
In all seriousness, thanks to all the people that shot down the idea with proper debate and discussion skills. I haven't had the chance to research the idea and really wouldn't know where to start which is why people bring the idea to forums to get other peoples opinions/further grasp on the subject. What ya'll say also makes even more sense and pretty much argues the point of the idea as being nill. Thanks for the info ( for the respectful guys ).
Great.....

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
To those that are getting butthurt because they bumped a thread they felt negatively about and they're not in the class of people with class and respect. You'll soon be able to relax and have a cup of coffee and realize it really wasn't that serious. If you really didn't want to see the thread or want to have people following an idea that didn't have proper background to sustain itself you shouldn't have bumped the thread numbnutz. Comments like " noob " and the like really don't do anything but let MORE people see the thread as it's being boosted up to the top of the list.
No one was getting butthurt. They were just calling you a for being stupid....


Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
With all of those comments this thread stayed alive long enough for people with something useful to say to go ahead and say it ( yea, i don't know if you guys realize it or not but...not everyone thinks the gas companies policies and practices are common knowledge ). Stop getting so butthurt at threads you don't like. Go read a book or look at ****. And to those that may reply " well i actually get paid for being on the computer at work etc " then go do what your getting paid to do. I'm sure it's not to look " cool " on a car site with corny remarks.
No one is trying to look "e-cool" that gets flamed pretty hard here. See if you have been here for "years" then you would kno that already.


Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
In closing, thanks to those with class that understand how to attack something that can be disproven and took the time out to do it. I'll let the guys that i found this information about. To the uber kewl guys that used all their brain power to come up with " it won't work " and the witty banter included...Thanks as well. You've also shown why it's really not worth paying for access on a car site by your maturity level. And to anyone else that may have a problem with the thread, seriously, don't reply or even finish reading a thread you'd feel would waste your time. The time you take reading and replying to something that really gets on your nerves is time and energy you could have used to make a sandwich and forget the thread even existed.
Then don't visit here. If you don't like the atmosphere then leave. Go visit the honda forums, Where they will come up with reasons why this will or will not work. We don't want you here....


Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
EDIT: Oh yea and just to reiterate, i don't really have a problem with gas prices, if i couldn't afford them i'd be on metro transit or a bike. I was just trying to pass the word of an idea that came across my lap. If people felt this serious about a thread on something that can easily be disproven then lol they're really sad. I see more respect for a thread on FRIGGIN BENCH RACING !!! lol " I have a race coming up and i have xxx mods...do you think i'll win ? " LMFAO !!! are you serious ? by not flaming those guys your giving them the imperssion that it's not only ok for threads such as that but actually incouraged LMFAO BENCH RACERS !!! LMAO !!!
ummm.....if your talking about weekend battles thread most are of the outcome of races. If you see a thread like that you will also see that most people will say "go race and find out"

Just for me to reiterate what im trying to say....you= go back to honda forums or bimmer forums, we don't want you here....
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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LMAO LMAO, you truely are an idiot. Anyone with 1/2 a brain would see what i'm trying to say. You did exactly what i said you would lol. You basically made a rebuttle that proves a whopping bunch of nothing. Instead of you actually making a useful post you wanted to show forth your mind bending efforts of " break apart flaming " lol. If you haven't figured it out yet, your flames are futile lol. Take a look at the thread again. Those with real knowledge on the subject said what they felt they had to because it was something useful. You on the other hand said something because you probably had as much knowledge on the issue as i had and wanted to look cool i guess. If you don't have knowledge based replies to thwart an issue please use your efforts elsewhere and out of my threads ( but i'm sure your about to say something along the lines of " don't make the threads if you don't want people to flame you " or something stupid like that ). LOL i own you.

Since i'm bored and have since stopped my efforts to spread the word ( because it was TASTEFULLY ARGUED by people that know what they're talking about and not some asshats that just want to flame with no basis )I'm going to do exactly what you did, not because i want to look cool, but to show you how much of a dumbass you are and reading < you.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
Then stay at the bimmer sites. We don't want you here.

Who is " we " exactly ? You obviously must speak for the entire maxima community ( if you haven't guessed it...i doubt it lol ) YOU may not want me here but this is a sad thing your going to have to get used to by being on the internet lol.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
ummm ok so pretty much that paragraph was to tell us that cars that cost 2x the max don't make people pay for search. Your posting a worthless thread, so your going to get flamed for it. Go to the "bimmer forums" and search all you want....
Once again YOU may feel my thread was worthless yet you responded with time taking effort to show how " worthless " this thread was lol. Read my last sentence again lol ... reading < you.


Originally Posted by Mass_Media
Your starting a thread that just happens to be when gas prices go up.
And ?

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
So to non noobs who have been here for a while when you post a thread like this they have a right to respond the way they do.
You have the right to remain a dumbass because you can't read.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
You come here cuz your friend has one?
Yes, he just purchased a 95 se. Is this difficult to understand ? Besides the fact that i like maximas and their engines. I can care less about the community as i don't frequent " general maxima discussion ". I come here for the N/A, FI, and Track forums lol.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
Youve been looking at this site for years?
Yes, would you need me to put this in lament terms for you ?

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
You want an award?
Not really, just stating the facts that would denounce the idea of trying to flame because i'm " new here " . In which case, reading AND thinking < you.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
Yep I wouldn't say years....more like year?
LOL.

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Psst...hey dumb****, just because my join date is recent doesn't mean that i haven't looked at this site for some time now. You obviously are one of the people that has to have your join date mean something. I on the other hand only joined because i had actual questions that i needed ans's to and couldn't find them on the search. Your probably one of the people that feel their post count proves your knowledge on the site lmao.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
Then go back to the honda sites.
Why ?

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
And I have seen some constructive reasons why this won't work.
So have i, which is why i stopped my efforts because those with constructive critisim actually spoke and proved why it wouldn't work. I don't feel inferior about it either. I'm glad they spoke up and said why it wouldn't work. They proved they have a grasp of the concept and they know more than me and you lol.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
A couple hundred people arn't going to make a difference to a company that is nation wide.
This can get a few responses but i'll just leave it to your imagination. Hint..read history books.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
They won't even notice if that happens.
Did you think of that all by yourself ?



Originally Posted by Mass_Media
Great.....
I know lol.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
No one was getting butthurt.
You obviously were. You went through the trouble of posting a feeble attempt at a flame ( in which the theme of this reply is reading < you ). If you didn't let my post affect you, you wouldn't have replied lol.

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
They were just calling you a for being stupid....
Only the ones that would rather flame than help someone understand something are the stupid ones. It's obvious who knows what they're talking about and the ones that are just trying to flame with no basis other than trying to look cool and get a laugh. Surely you aren't in the class of people that know what they're talking about and are the flag person for the latter lol.




Originally Posted by Mass_Media
No one is trying to look "e-cool" that gets flamed pretty hard here. See if you have been here for "years" then you would kno that already.
YOU are definitely trying to look cool by your reply. When you finish reading my reply, ask yourself...was my reply really worth it ? lol. Negate the fact that i've been here for a certain length of time...would that mean that i would know what goes on in the minds of everyone here or does it mean that i've just simply been here for some time ? lol



Originally Posted by Mass_Media
Then don't visit here. If you don't like the atmosphere then leave. Go visit the honda forums, Where they will come up with reasons why this will or will not work. We don't want you here....
The atmostphere isn't the problem. Luckily people with 1/2 a brain speak more than people that don't ( which category do you think you fit into ? lol ). I do visit honda forums, as well as evo forums, other dsm forums, acura forums, bimmer forums, mercedes forums, audi forums, supra forums, turbo buick forums, LS1 tech and a few others...what does all of this mean ? A whopping bunch of nothing. People that know what they're talking about will reply with why it will or won't work. Not people that visit certain forums asshat. And once again YOU may not want me here for whatever reasons but alas, you can have your temper tantrum because you can't get what you want in the corner on time out.


Originally Posted by Mass_Media
ummm.....if your talking about weekend battles thread most are of the outcome of races. If you see a thread like that you will also see that most people will say "go race and find out"
Since i don't go to general discussion i never even knew about that thread. I was referring to 1/4 section. Along with random " who will win threads " that pop up in various areas of the site. While you may THINK most people will reply " go and find out " the majority doesn't. Not only that but would actually give more positive input on a thread of that nature when it pops up ( which i'm sure is WAY more than " lets do something about gas prices " or " Gas is skyrocketing ! ! ! " threads )

Originally Posted by Mass_Media
Just for me to reiterate what im trying to say....you= go back to honda forums or bimmer forums, we don't want you here....
Just to reiterate...READING < YOU. I will go where i feel, if you don't like it YOU can get out of the sandbox and go to the jungle gym lol. YOU don't want me here but i'm sure " " pretty much shows how you feel about not being able to do anything about it LOL. I just owned you LEVELS above what you though could be possible because you felt just because i might have been " new " that you'd get off a few pop shots and catch a couple of chuckles lol...Well, i'm chuckling but not with you..at you lol !

Flame that dumbass.

EDIT: Sorry to drag out a beaten cat but, ehh i was bored..anyway, thanks again to those that continue to present evidence that shows why an idea such as this wouldn't work. You are in the group of mature classy people on this site. To the asshats that fit into this guys category, save the time and go to the next thread. Go maxima.org !
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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^ Talk about wanting to be e-cool...

Somebody this moron.

Yes, would you need me to put this in lament terms for you ?
Please put them in "lament" terms for all of us and type lol some more f'cuktard.

Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by D-Bo
^ Talk about wanting to be e-cool...

Somebody this moron.



Please put them in "lament" terms for all of us and type lol some more f'cuktard.


Sorry, laymans. My point was still proven lol Read at the beginning where i said that i was bored and just doing the same that he has done.

And your whopping 2 posts that did what for this thread ? I move to ban YOU asshat.

EDIT:Mods, please lock this thread or delete asshat comments such as this guys. The smart people have already shown why this was just a irrational idea and the flames were truely not needed. Thanks. I believe i've been respectful in my posts and think that the replies by some of the members really show low class and maturity. I guess if i had 5k posts and was known by many circles on this site, a different outlook on this thread would have been taken. But unfortunately, everyone is a comedian and people just have to show their ignorance.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
Sorry, laymans. My point was still proven lol Read at the beginning where i said that i was bored and just doing the same that he has done.
You have proven nothing other than you're an idiot.

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
And your whopping 2 posts that did what for this thread ? I move to ban YOU asshat.
Well count them three now, and they contributed as much to this forum as this entire worthless thread.

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
EDIT:Mods, please lock this thread or delete asshat comments such as this guys. The smart people have already shown why this was just a irrational idea and the flames were truely not needed. Thanks. I believe i've been respectful in my posts and think that the replies by some of the members really show low class and maturity. I guess if i had 5k posts and was known by many circles on this site, a different outlook on this thread would have been taken. But unfortunately, everyone is a comedian and people just have to show their ignorance.
You have not been respectful in your replies or initial ignorance. If you had 10k posts and posted this crap you still would have been flamed.

At least we can agree on one thing
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

FTL
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by foodmanry
Uhhh...do any of you realize that the majority of oil and its byproducts goes to industry, rather than the end consumer in the form of gas?

This spike and all future spikes in oil prices will hurt US industry more than the consumers. Of course it will trickle down to the consumers in the form of increased prices. So really...beside all the other BS posted above about boycotting, even if that was true, it would not negate the industrial oil consumption which is the majority consumer.

Cliffe Notes: We are f'd unless we come up with an alternative source of energy that U.S. industries can rely upon, and convert to inexpensively.
It's kind of silly for people to say if we don't buy gas, the price will go down. There are inelasticities of supply, not just demand.

I repeat, why can we go to Pep Boys and load up on Castrol GTX for $1.29/qt. after rebate today, last week, last year, and when regular unleaded was $0.899 in NJ in early 2k1? Though it's been refined, isn't that Castrol GTX dependent on the price of a barrel of oil? To some extent, sure, but as you can see, not really.

Don't get me wrong, I think the situation is serious, and we're on the wrong track. But a lot of this notion of "doing something about it" is all talk. We were at $3.39/gal. last year and I can assure you the people in my firm never once said "carpool."
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by naxray
Indeed FTL. By the looks of that site that's exactly where the guy got the idea from ( well whever it was collected from anyway lol ). And holy cripes, i didn't know it went back so many years lol. Urban legends lol. I guess there really isn't a way to lower gas prices, it's just it's time to be raised i guess. Aslo, i have heard about the prices overseas but i never understood why . Anyway, thanks for the link to the site. LOL i think if you would have been the first poster i would have seen something fishy about it. It was harmless though, ehh,
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
It's kind of silly for people to say if we don't buy gas, the price will go down. There are inelasticities of supply, not just demand.

I repeat, why can we go to Pep Boys and load up on Castrol GTX for $1.29/qt. after rebate today, last week, last year, and when regular unleaded was $0.899 in NJ in early 2k1? Though it's been refined, isn't that Castrol GTX dependent on the price of a barrel of oil? To some extent, sure, but as you can see, not really.

Don't get me wrong, I think the situation is serious, and we're on the wrong track. But a lot of this notion of "doing something about it" is all talk. We were at $3.39/gal. last year and I can assure you the people in my firm never once said "carpool."

Since i haven't had to worry about personal car issues, i never really noticed until last year when everyone was complaining. When i look at prices now and people say i remember when it was like 2-3 dollars cheaper ( and it was only a few years ago ) i'm somewhat amazed. I never thought the idea of just trying to boycott gas completely would work. In any case i doubt your boss would understand you couldn't make it to work because you were boycotting gas lol.

Anyway, yea i guess from what was shown the gas situation is way over our heads. Just sucking it up and paying is the only choice at the time. Unless of course you like riding your bike or 50 miles through rain sleet hail snow and 110+ degree weather lol.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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i wish we could do something about the prices though......
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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I agree that we should do something about gas prices, but what this thread suggests is useless. If anything, they will charge less when we buy less. AS A NATION. So long as Ford Expeditions and Chevy Tahoes keep flyin off the showroom, that's not likely to happen ........

As far as a boycott is concerned, we really should boycott this thread. Let this be a lesson to those who would post first and research later-The fire awaits thee...

That's all I got to say .
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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buy american gas!!!!!!! ... problem solved.... now LOCK THIS!!!!
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
LMAO LMAO, you truely are an idiot. Anyone with 1/2 a brain would see what i'm trying to say. You did exactly what i said you would lol. You basically made a rebuttle that proves a whopping bunch of nothing. Instead of you actually making a useful post you wanted to show forth your mind bending efforts of " break apart flaming " lol. If you haven't figured it out yet, your flames are futile lol. Take a look at the thread again. Those with real knowledge on the subject said what they felt they had to because it was something useful. You on the other hand said something because you probably had as much knowledge on the issue as i had and wanted to look cool i guess. If you don't have knowledge based replies to thwart an issue please use your efforts elsewhere and out of my threads ( but i'm sure your about to say something along the lines of " don't make the threads if you don't want people to flame you " or something stupid like that ). LOL i own you.
I know what your trying to say, and its retarded. Knowledge on what subject? how to conserve gas? wow thats way over my head, i was just thinking maybe ride your bike to work/school or take the bus. But i guess from your logic i need a BA for that. Yea you got me, I want to look cool in front of people i WILL NEVER MEET. What a better way for me to get ahead in life than for someone in NY to think im a badazz.

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
Since i'm bored and have since stopped my efforts to spread the word ( because it was TASTEFULLY ARGUED by people that know what they're talking about and not some asshats that just want to flame with no basis )I'm going to do exactly what you did, not because i want to look cool, but to show you how much of a dumbass you are and reading < you.
Reading<Me? So im Greater than reading? Good one. So not only are you trying to flame me and look cool doing it but you don't even know what your talking about. Looks like basic math>u


Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
Once again YOU may feel my thread was worthless yet you responded with time taking effort to show how " worthless " this thread was lol. Read my last sentence again lol ... reading < you.
Yea your right im Greater than reading. Not only that but i want to be ecool so that i can get erespect that way my street cred will go through the roof Y0!!!!


Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
Not really, just stating the facts that would denounce the idea of trying to flame because i'm " new here " . In which case, reading AND thinking < you.
Me>thinking? Wow thats a new one. Yea i guess i am greater than thinking. Thanks for helping me out. I guess basic comprehension of the english language is> than you



Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
Psst...hey dumb****, just because my join date is recent doesn't mean that i haven't looked at this site for some time now. You obviously are one of the people that has to have your join date mean something. I on the other hand only joined because i had actual questions that i needed ans's to and couldn't find them on the search. Your probably one of the people that feel their post count proves your knowledge on the site lmao.
OOOOOO looks like I struck a nerve. Yea I know alot about the site. I know how to work it, how to navigate and in my 3 years here i just barly figured out. :

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
You obviously were. You went through the trouble of posting a feeble attempt at a flame ( in which the theme of this reply is reading < you ). If you didn't let my post affect you, you wouldn't have replied lol.
Yep once again Im greater than reading. Gosh you are just to good....


Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
Only the ones that would rather flame than help someone understand something are the stupid ones. It's obvious who knows what they're talking about and the ones that are just trying to flame with no basis other than trying to look cool and get a laugh. Surely you aren't in the class of people that know what they're talking about and are the flag person for the latter lol.
Flag person? Boy you are just building me up. Everytime it seems like you are saying im greater than reading or thinking and now im a leader of a group of people. :

Once again it doesn't need a BA to see that this won't affect anything. If you want to conserve fuel then ride your bike, take the bus, or walk.



Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
YOU are definitely trying to look cool by your reply. When you finish reading my reply, ask yourself...was my reply really worth it ? lol. Negate the fact that i've been here for a certain length of time...would that mean that i would know what goes on in the minds of everyone here or does it mean that i've just simply been here for some time ? lol
Yep im trying to look cool. Not only that but my dad can beat up your dad and my car is faster than yours.



Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
The atmostphere isn't the problem. Luckily people with 1/2 a brain speak more than people that don't ( which category do you think you fit into ? lol ). I do visit honda forums, as well as evo forums, other dsm forums, acura forums, bimmer forums, mercedes forums, audi forums, supra forums, turbo buick forums, LS1 tech and a few others...what does all of this mean ? A whopping bunch of nothing. People that know what they're talking about will reply with why it will or won't work. Not people that visit certain forums asshat. And once again YOU may not want me here for whatever reasons but alas, you can have your temper tantrum because you can't get what you want in the corner on time out.
I guess I have more than half a brain. Once again you know me, im sitting in my room in the corner ripping hair out because im so mad that a person somewhere in the us is making me mad. I have had arguements on here but I have only gotten mad a handful of times and everyone of those times was in ot. All im going to say about that.....


Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
Just to reiterate...READING < YOU. I will go where i feel, if you don't like it YOU can get out of the sandbox and go to the jungle gym lol. YOU don't want me here but i'm sure " " pretty much shows how you feel about not being able to do anything about it LOL. I just owned you LEVELS above what you though could be possible because you felt just because i might have been " new " that you'd get off a few pop shots and catch a couple of chuckles lol...Well, i'm chuckling but not with you..at you lol
!

the whole fact that your tuting your own horn saying you "owned me" is laughable. In fact you "owning me" was you just making yourself look like a retard saying that Reading<U (U Greater than Reading) <-----I did that just in case you failed basic math.

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
Flame that dumbass.
I did

Originally Posted by SleepersOwn
EDIT: Sorry to drag out a beaten cat but, ehh i was bored..anyway, thanks again to those that continue to present evidence that shows why an idea such as this wouldn't work. You are in the group of mature classy people on this site. To the asshats that fit into this guys category, save the time and go to the next thread. Go maxima.org !
From the responses after this little "flame Session" im thinking that most people are with me in saying your a moron.

Basic math>U
Reading>U
Everyone on this board>U

Thanks try again
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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You guys all sound like a bunch of b1tches going back and forth like this. The facts:


- If you can't afford gas, you can't afford to "mod" your car either...so if your car is modded, shut your mouth about gas prices. Nobody likes paying MORE for any commodity, and gas is no different. Complaining about gas is kind of lame, since nobody is going to disagree with you. We can all agree that low gas prices > high gas prices. There is no argument.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
You guys all sound like a bunch of b1tches going back and forth like this. The facts:


- If you can't afford gas, you can't afford to "mod" your car either...so if your car is modded, shut your mouth about gas prices. Nobody likes paying MORE for any commodity, and gas is no different. Complaining about gas is kind of lame, since nobody is going to disagree with you. We can all agree that low gas prices > high gas prices. There is no argument.
Stop trying to act cool......
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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