anyone tried "nitrogen" for your tires
#43
ive had nitrogen in my tires for about 1 year i think. I noticed the tire pressure does not vary in relation to the temperature. When i had normal air in my tires i noticed id loose some pressure over some time, maybe 1-2psi most likely due to temperature changes, but with the nitrogen its been the same 32psi since i got them.
#48
Originally Posted by Jime
I just had my slicks filled with nitrogen as well as my skinnies for the rear. They also filled up my 5 gal air pig to 125psi to top up as necessary.
Going to the track tomorrow so I will see if they change pressure when heated up etc.
Going to the track tomorrow so I will see if they change pressure when heated up etc.
I do believe in the N2 for tire inflation though, everybody should be using it!!
#49
I work at a tire store in WA and the only advantage to nitrogen is if you have chrome wheels or if your state has EXTREME heat changes from day to day. This is because nitrogen dose not contain as much condinsation as regular air so it stops crome peal. Chrome peal is the leading cause in bead leaks, which then you have to buy a new wheel. As a org member you check your tires on a regular bases I imagin, so you have no need to use nitrogen. All the other things you listed up there like tire life, heat transfer, better gas mileage this is all related to propper air pressure. The biggest problem we have as a tire bisness is people not checking there air enough, so this was the solution that came up for the adverage person out there. You will get all of those things you listed without nitrogen if you just check your tires.
You may remember the Firerstone recall a couple years back on fords. This was not ford's or firestone's fault, It was the consumers fault. After testing they found out that the tires where coming appart only when run at a low pressure. So they took the findings to Washington, and a bill was passed that all new vehicles had to have TPMS (tire pressure monitering system) no matter what make or model by september of 2007. Ford and Firestone where just the unlucky ones and had to pay out millions in losses. This is part of the reason they came out with nitrogen also. Its for those older vehickles without TPMS, and the adverage person.
You may remember the Firerstone recall a couple years back on fords. This was not ford's or firestone's fault, It was the consumers fault. After testing they found out that the tires where coming appart only when run at a low pressure. So they took the findings to Washington, and a bill was passed that all new vehicles had to have TPMS (tire pressure monitering system) no matter what make or model by september of 2007. Ford and Firestone where just the unlucky ones and had to pay out millions in losses. This is part of the reason they came out with nitrogen also. Its for those older vehickles without TPMS, and the adverage person.
#50
I have been using nitrogen since last July and I can assure you my rims and tires hold air pressure much better then when I was using compressed air!
Of course I live in Vegas where in summer it can get up to 120 deg F. just sitting in heavy freeway traffic. In winter the temp occasionally falls in the
20's. So my experience with nitrogen has gone thru a 100 deg F differential.
Of course I live in Vegas where in summer it can get up to 120 deg F. just sitting in heavy freeway traffic. In winter the temp occasionally falls in the
20's. So my experience with nitrogen has gone thru a 100 deg F differential.
#51
i30krab thats exactly what im talking about now theres some state's that its a good idea to run nitrogen. do a exparament for me please, when your car has been sitting for a bit and the tires are cold chack the pressure. Then drive down the freeway a bit to get them hot and check it again. Im interested to see what the difference is. dont go out of your way to do it just maybe one day you are going some where that requires freeway some driving.
#52
Originally Posted by Revs2Hard
i30krab thats exactly what im talking about now theres some state's that its a good idea to run nitrogen. do a exparament for me please, when your car has been sitting for a bit and the tires are cold chack the pressure. Then drive down the freeway a bit to get them hot and check it again. Im interested to see what the difference is. dont go out of your way to do it just maybe one day you are going some where that requires freeway some driving.
#53
All you need to know:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/070216.html
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/070216.html
#54
Originally Posted by i30krab
Will do..............................................
I drove 800 miles, speeds 10 - 100 MPH
Temperatures, 65- 118 degrees
Air pressure front wheels 40 PSI before trip, after trip 39 lbs
Air pressure back wheels 38 PSI before trip, after trip 37.5 lbs
I had an extra 300 lbs in the car during this trip!
I think the nitrogen held up extremely well, but of course I don't know how regular air would have done.
#55
Originally Posted by gdoug
Interesting thread. I drove an '07 SE yesterday and the dealer expounded on the fact that they now put nitrogen in all cars on their lot. I would be concerned with having to find nitrogen to change tire pressures, etc, if I had or wanted to or have a flat repaired some remote place. Actually, I didn't notice any difference in the ride, but then I was really so fascinated by the Xtronic CVT transmission. If you love to feel the shift of your automatic forget this tranny. Or, I guess you can always use the manual option. I just may get one of these '07s.
(in reference to buying anything but a stick)
#58
After a year of tests, I'm more than confident that this is just slick marketing. I filled my tires a year ago with plain old air. Since then, I've checked the pressure under various conditions. So far, no detectable change. I used 3 different gauges to verify my results. They are all accurate to +/- 0.5 psi.
Of course, I haven't been driving around at 200 mph for hours or trying to stop a 15 ton jumbo jet that goes through 1000's ft of elevation changes, so I can't speak for those applications. However, for normal driving, I wouldn't pay or worry about whether I had nitrogen in my tires.
Of course, I haven't been driving around at 200 mph for hours or trying to stop a 15 ton jumbo jet that goes through 1000's ft of elevation changes, so I can't speak for those applications. However, for normal driving, I wouldn't pay or worry about whether I had nitrogen in my tires.
#59
Originally Posted by jphoto
I'm not sure how this nitrogen fad got started, but it's pretty much like putting F1-sized spoilers on the back of Hyundai Accents. Harmless but identifies you as a dork.
#61
so i was sitting in chem class in college and my professor rambles on about nitrogen in car tires. he said it was the dumbest thing in the world to pay $40 for something that doesnt do anything. there are no advantages to switching to nitrogen, and apparently it makes it worse. he went through some chemical detailed discussion that i dont remember but he gave a million reasons why it's a big scam
#62
Instead of spending $ on nitrogen, more of a benefit would be to make sure the air going into the tire has as little moisture/humidity as possible.
I try to us my Scuba tank to fill my tires whenever possible as the air is 100% dry. Or go to a gas station that has a compressor that has a moisture filter (almost all do to keep water out of the air storage tank). Also, this applies to humid areas. Somewhere like Vegas the moisture in the tire is probably not a big issue.
I try to us my Scuba tank to fill my tires whenever possible as the air is 100% dry. Or go to a gas station that has a compressor that has a moisture filter (almost all do to keep water out of the air storage tank). Also, this applies to humid areas. Somewhere like Vegas the moisture in the tire is probably not a big issue.
#63
Originally Posted by claudiusmaximas
so i was sitting in chem class in college and my professor rambles on about nitrogen in car tires. he said it was the dumbest thing in the world to pay $40 for something that doesnt do anything. there are no advantages to switching to nitrogen, and apparently it makes it worse. he went through some chemical detailed discussion that i dont remember but he gave a million reasons why it's a big scam
#65
Simply put:
Advantages:
Nitrogen's molicules do not seep through the rubber as easilly as air does.
Nitrogen does not corode your tires (air does but not enough to matter)
Nitrogen does not react to tempature as much as air does.
Disadvatages:
PITA to find and almost impossible to find for free.
Advantages:
Nitrogen's molicules do not seep through the rubber as easilly as air does.
Nitrogen does not corode your tires (air does but not enough to matter)
Nitrogen does not react to tempature as much as air does.
Disadvatages:
PITA to find and almost impossible to find for free.
#66
Originally Posted by Froggmann
Simply put:
Advantages:
Nitrogen's molicules do not seep through the rubber as easilly as air does.
Nitrogen does not corode your tires (air does but not enough to matter)
Nitrogen does not react to tempature as much as air does.
Disadvatages:
PITA to find and almost impossible to find for free.
Advantages:
Nitrogen's molicules do not seep through the rubber as easilly as air does.
Nitrogen does not corode your tires (air does but not enough to matter)
Nitrogen does not react to tempature as much as air does.
Disadvatages:
PITA to find and almost impossible to find for free.
Or by the same principle, every time you top off the pressure in your tire, you are inching closer and closer to having 100% nitrogen in your tires.
Of course, as I said above, my experience is that these "advantages" are BS for street driving. And if the corrosion is not enough to matter, then should it really still be listed as an advantage? Besides, worrying about protecting the inside of the tire, while the outside is exposed to acid rain, ozone, UV, etc. is just plain moronic.
#68
Originally Posted by A33Black
Instead of spending $ on nitrogen, more of a benefit would be to make sure the air going into the tire has as little moisture/humidity as possible.
I try to us my Scuba tank to fill my tires whenever possible as the air is 100% dry. Or go to a gas station that has a compressor that has a moisture filter (almost all do to keep water out of the air storage tank). Also, this applies to humid areas. Somewhere like Vegas the moisture in the tire is probably not a big issue.
I try to us my Scuba tank to fill my tires whenever possible as the air is 100% dry. Or go to a gas station that has a compressor that has a moisture filter (almost all do to keep water out of the air storage tank). Also, this applies to humid areas. Somewhere like Vegas the moisture in the tire is probably not a big issue.
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