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Help: auto to 5 speed conversion w/wiring harness conv clutch wires pedal where do?

Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Help: auto to 5 speed conversion w/wiring harness conv clutch wires pedal where do?

Okay here is my question: the car was auto and was converted to a 5 speed. I also pulled the auto wiring harness and installed a 5 speed wiring harness and 5 speed ECU. I do not know where to connect the two wires that come out of the clutch pedal now that the auto wiring harness is out. On the auto wiring harness you connect it to the PNP switch wires.

Think you guys can help me out here so the car can start the car?

When pressing the clutch pedal the car will start. But if those two wires are not connected properly it wont start. I forgot the name of the switch that will not let the car start?
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 04:38 AM
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There should be a plug for them to connect to your 5 speed wiring harness.
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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Don't they connect to each other with that funky brown jumper/connector thing? I can't remember...I'll look tonight
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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There's a P/N plug somewhere on the wiring harness that connects to the ECU if I recall. Check the FSM and look at the 5spd ecu pins. You should be able to find it from that.
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GoalieKeg
There's a P/N plug somewhere on the wiring harness that connects to the ECU if I recall. Check the FSM and look at the 5spd ecu pins. You should be able to find it from that.

Ill check the FSM and check the pin out! I appreciate all you guys help!
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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i think the other end of the plus IS on the harness. how hard was it to switch the wiring harness? im seriously thinking about doing this so i can be "all natural"
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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i think the other end of the plus IS on the harness. how hard was it to switch the wiring harness? im seriously thinking about doing this so i can be "all natural"

I pulled the whole engine out to assemble it. While the engine was out I pulled the wiring harness. It is not hard, just disconnect it from the inside. It is about 5 harnesses inside the car. Then just pull it from the engine bay. Then grab the 5 speed harness and feed it back in. Not hard at all. The thing is that I now need to hook up those two clutch wires so the car can start. Ill let you guys know how it turns out.

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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roger that, can it be done without pulling the motor?
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roger that, can it be done without pulling the motor?

Yes, it can be done. But the only logical reason do go through with it would be so that you can use an aftermarket 5spd ECU with it...and get rid of all those codes from the 5spd swap.

I certainly won't switch mine out, I'd have to rewire all my injectors. I'm just going to go down the EU road instead.
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GoalieKeg
Yes, it can be done. But the only logical reason do go through with it would be so that you can use an aftermarket 5spd ECU with it...and get rid of all those codes from the 5spd swap.

I certainly won't switch mine out, I'd have to rewire all my injectors. I'm just going to go down the EU road instead.
ive done the swap and i dont like the spliced wire look. thats why i want to do it, so i can lose all the codes and such. jamie: good luck with your install.
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwind
ive done the swap and i dont like the spliced wire look. thats why i want to do it, so i can lose all the codes and such. jamie: good luck with your install.
what codes are you guys getting? i have a few codes right now but i think the only one related to the 5spd swap would be P/N switch (i think it's 1005 or 1003)
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Originally Posted by aznsap
what codes are you guys getting? i have a few codes right now but i think the only one related to the 5spd swap would be P/N switch (i think it's 1005 or 1003)
thats the main code that comes and goes. and the ks code. i just want it to look good is all. i may just buy the plugs from a yard and solder the wires together.
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UPDATE: Guys you do not have to even mess with the ECU. Pin 22 leave it alone. You guys with autos I may have a solution for ya not to have no more auto tranny codes running your 5 spd swaps.

What I did was a full 5 spd conversion with 5spd engine wiring harness. The auto engine wiring harness can be left alone along with the ECU thats currently in your car. Ill take some pictures and let you guys know how easy it is to by passs all that crap and is only one wire and your car will fire right up!!!!!!!!!!!
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Any update on this?
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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sounds good jay.. pics pics pics..
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Can wait to see...
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by doublea
Can wait to see...
Here is all the info you guys wanted clik on the below link


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=487005
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JAY25
Here is all the info you guys wanted clik on the below link


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=487005
what about just switching that realy, from the auto(#60) to the manual(#61) i think thoes are the right numbers.
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwind
what about just switching that realy, from the auto(#60) to the manual(#61) i think thoes are the right numbers.


Wont work, auto relay is much different then manual relay.
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JAY25
Wont work, auto relay is much different then manual relay.
and the manual relay will only work on the 5spd harness? the pics are dead on the other link
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwind
and the manual relay will only work on the 5spd harness? the pics are dead on the other link
auto relay/5speed manual relay wire is orange/green. Relays are different. Go to a auto maxima and pull the relay or check the FSM. Just ground orange/green wire and start the car.


We are talking about the wiring harness swaps, thats different. By passing the PNP on autos. Relays are different wires are same. Look at the FSM.
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i read ya on that. so what you have done will take out the p/n code on a 5spd swapped car rinning a 5spd ecu on a auto harness, right?
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwind
i read ya on that. so what you have done will take out the p/n code on a 5spd swapped car rinning a 5spd ecu on a auto harness, right?


If you ground that wire unplug the wires from the auto ECU. It is rendered useless. The car should start even with the auto ECU. What might not work are your back up lamps. Thats the only thing that I can think of not working properly.


The car I did this on I bought the 5speed ECU. I should have only bought the wiring harness.
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