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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Do Autos Have Flywheels?

I don't know so I'm asking.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Not in the same sense as manuals. Autos use torque convertors. Autos do have a flex plate but it weighs nothing. It's only purpose is having a ring gear so the starter has something to grab to start the car.

Please search. This is a pretty basic question.

HowStuffWorks.com is a good site
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Can you take off a flywheel from a manual car without damaging the timing ring?
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Maxima
Can you take off a flywheel from a manual car without damaging the timing ring?
yes.................
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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who cares if its basic, he didnt know so he asked, doesnt bother me at least
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Sorry for the dumbness - wanted to know badly.

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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Thanks for the reply, seems like every used flywheel that is forsale does not come with a timing ring.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Not in the same sense as manuals. Autos use torque convertors. Autos do have a flex plate but it weighs nothing. It's only purpose is having a ring gear so the starter has something to grab to start the car.
thats right...sort of. the flywheel of an automatic car has three uses.
1: smooths out the harshness of the combustion
2: provide surface for starting car
3: keeps engine running at low RPM's because it IS heavy and has enough momentum to keep the engine from stalling.

it also provides a surface to transfer power between engine and transmission.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Did you just say the flex plate is heavy?? It is very light compared to a flywheel.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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its heavy. the one from my 2k2 is at least 20 lbs. you can buy heavier/lighter flexplates just like you can buy heavier/ligher flywheels
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Thanks for brining that up Hoop. That's what I've been leading up to - can you put in a lighter flex plate/flywheel into a stock auto gearbox so that you accelerate faster?
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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yeh, i dont know as you can find a lighter one for the max, but you could always get yours milled.
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
its heavy. the one from my 2k2 is at least 20 lbs. you can buy heavier/lighter flexplates just like you can buy heavier/ligher flywheels
The flywheel from manual cars of that year is ~30lbs...

That's the point... not that flex plates aren't "heavy", but that they're not as heavy as flywheels.
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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The flywheel from manual cars of that year is ~30lbs...

That's the point... not that flex plates aren't "heavy", but that they're not as heavy as flywheels.
well yeah, i know that. i was just saying they are heavy, since he said they "weigh nothing". and BTW, many flexplates are heavier than flywheels, it just depends on the car.
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Have you actually seen the maxima flexplate? It's a thin piece of sheetmetal with a bunch of holes in it.

But because no one seems to believe me:

http://www.carcarecouncil.org/Auto_T...lexplate.shtml




Originally Posted by Hoooper
well yeah, i know that. i was just saying they are heavy, since he said they "weigh nothing". and BTW, many flexplates are heavier than flywheels, it just depends on the car.
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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I just tried to weight one and it wont register on my digital scale. The scale won't read anything under 5 pounds, so its very light.
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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I got a question , I have 2 VG engine's out of 2nd gen maxima's , Ones an engine out of an auto and ones out of a 5 speed.


The auto engine is low mileage in the low 100k's , And the 5 speed engine is in the high 200k's , im swapping the low one into the car where the 200k engine is.

Can i take the clutch/pressure plate/flywheel and then go over to the auto engine and take the flex plate off then put the clutch/pressure plate/flywheel on there?

Without buying a new clutch and stuff?
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Yes you can.
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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I got a question , I have 2 VG engine's out of 2nd gen maxima's , Ones an engine out of an auto and ones out of a 5 speed.


The auto engine is low mileage in the low 100k's , And the 5 speed engine is in the high 200k's , im swapping the low one into the car where the 200k engine is.

Can i take the clutch/pressure plate/flywheel and then go over to the auto engine and take the flex plate off then put the clutch/pressure plate/flywheel on there?

Without buying a new clutch and stuff?
yes but you should make scribe marks to make sure it sets the same way you took it out.
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
thats right...sort of. the flywheel of an automatic car has three uses.
1: smooths out the harshness of the combustion
2: provide surface for starting car
3: keeps engine running at low RPM's because it IS heavy and has enough momentum to keep the engine from stalling.

it also provides a surface to transfer power between engine and transmission.
Have you ever held a maxima flex plate. I can't speak for the VQ35 flex plate but I have two VQ30 flex plates in the garage and they are both under 1lb. I can stand on the bathroom scale with or without them and my weight doesn't change. They are so light as to afford virtually no momentum. You could stack 20 of these and still probably not have the weight of a single 4th gen flywheel.
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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some cars have the flex plate a little different.. for example my friends pos hyundai eccel... the part whit all the teeth is actually welded to the torque converter.. so its one piece.. there is another piece of metal it looks like a triangle(sorta) which connects to the crank then to the torque converter.. but im sure u guys already knew that...
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
thats right...sort of. the flywheel of an automatic car has three uses.
1: smooths out the harshness of the combustion
2: provide surface for starting car
3: keeps engine running at low RPM's because it IS heavy and has enough momentum to keep the engine from stalling.

it also provides a surface to transfer power between engine and transmission.
It's called a flex plate on an automatic
It is less than 2 lbs compared to a Fidanzas 9ish or so and stockers 18ish
And Maximas do not have balanced ones.
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wunfstmax
yes but you should make scribe marks to make sure it sets the same way you took it out.
save your time
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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I'll get a picture of a VG30E to VQ30DE (and K) flexplate compared to a flywheel. They will be VE30DE parts but they are all similiar for the three motors.
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