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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Why you don't drink and drive (4th Gen Maxima)

this is why you should never drink and drive while going 100mph. One dead passenger....one critically injured driver waiting to face criminal charges.

http://www.king5.com/sharedcontent/V...2294&catId=231
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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That looks pretty bad, I wonder if it is someone of the org....
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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wow that sucks!!

definatley looks like someone one who would be on the org. tints, rims, red/clears, blues (struts), side mirrors, probably more i just watched the video real quick.
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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Is it bad taste for me to call dibs on the rims?
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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^no

Sucks for him, not the first time something like this has happened to a maxima member. **** happens to stupid *** people.
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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D*mn that sucks... Second dibs on rims... lol
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Man, that just makes me ill. I wish there were some way to find out if he was an .org member.

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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Tokico Blues?

Maybe regional forum guys would know, looked like a pretty basic bolt-on car.
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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something similar happened around my area too where a max was doin about 60 in a residential neighborhood, swerved to avoid a car, lost control and slammed into a tree....2 outa 3 dead.....all teens
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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looks like an org member.. O_O
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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i checked on nwmaxima.com today and no one knew if it was an org or regional member. i guess he was 19 and pass was 16
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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hits close to home..literally
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 03:56 AM
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i checked on nwmaxima.com today and no one knew if it was an org or regional member. i guess he was 19 and pass was 16
yeah none of us knew anything
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 04:23 AM
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this is why you should never drink and drive
I consider myself lucky, being down here in TX I got mad fines, lawyer fees, state fines, court fees, and annual DPS fees (1k for 3 yrs). Im still lucky I didnt kill anyone nor get into any wrecks. It would suck to know you were responsible for the death of anyone let alone someone close to you.

sober for 11 months..lesson learned..I hate seeing stuff like this but it sure is a reminder for us all..

I hope the driver makes it out ok..
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Is it bad taste for me to call dibs on the rims?
No... because i already called dibs on the tails.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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not only drink and drive. the racing can cause that too. freaking drunk driver and racers, as theres a saying (the outcome of wrong doing is always bad) dont feel sorry for them.
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I couldn't help but notice, it looked like it was wet out also. Even being sober and of good mind, if he was speeding at all, it might have been mighty easy to slip and slide.

Being inebriated only enhanced his lack of reaction/poor judgement....?

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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that pass had no chance, there was a pole that decided it wanted the passenger seat, that kid had zero chance. sad sad thing to see
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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No... because i already called dibs on the tails.
Beat me to it.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Wow, that sucks.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GBAUER
Is it bad taste for me to call dibs on the rims?
That's pretty screwed up
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by aw89maxSE
this is why you should never drink and drive while going 100mph.
Or why you should never drink & drive period or drive at 100+ mph on the road.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Not cool. Drunk driving=stupidity at its max
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Hate to say it, but most people I know drink and drive, most of them wait it off for a couple of hours after, but its still not right. The only way people will ever learn is if it happens to them, as it did to me.

My friend totaled my 1995 ford contour on the highway doing 80 mph on new years eve. me and 3 other people were in the car, and one person was wearing a seat belt. One person flew out of the car through the rear windshield while the car was in the air. Never drank and drove since(4 years). It is a little harsh to say that you shouldnt feel sorry for them, because its all about the people you hang out with, and they influence you to do dumb things. A perfectly smart person who never drank and drove can end up in a situation like this from influence of his friends. Hopefully people will just mature quicker
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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Hate to say it, but most people I know drink and drive, most of them wait it off for a couple of hours after, but its still not right. The only way people will ever learn is if it happens to them, as it did to me.

My friend totaled my 1995 ford contour on the highway doing 80 mph on new years eve. me and 3 other people were in the car, and one person was wearing a seat belt. One person flew out of the car through the rear windshield while the car was in the air. Never drank and drove since(4 years). It is a little harsh to say that you shouldnt feel sorry for them, because its all about the people you hang out with, and they influence you to do dumb things. A perfectly smart person who never drank and drove can end up in a situation like this from influence of his friends. Hopefully people will just mature quicker
INFLUENCE?!!! Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard, you cant blame YOUR stupid mistake on "everyon else was there doing it, so i felt compelled to do it too." how many of your so called friends helped you pay for your ride after it got wrecked? I bet not a single one. I do not feel sorry for this kid tearing up his car and here is why. #1. He was drinking under age! #2. The driver was 16!! #3. He was speeding DURING A RAINSTORM!!! #4. HE WAS DRINKING UNDER AGE!!!! He deserves whatever happens to him. and god help him if the family of the driver sues. ( the owner of the car was the passenger)

Ill be the first one in line at the junkyard to play vulture on his car, it looks like he had some nice mods.

Bottom line is this, Own up to your mistakes and be accountable.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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INFLUENCE?!!! Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard, you cant blame YOUR stupid mistake on "everyon else was there doing it, so i felt compelled to do it too." how many of your so called friends helped you pay for your ride after it got wrecked? I bet not a single one. I do not feel sorry for this kid tearing up his car and here is why. #1. He was drinking under age! #2. The driver was 16!! #3. He was speeding DURING A RAINSTORM!!! #4. HE WAS DRINKING UNDER AGE!!!!
drinking under age doesnt mean anything, and it was the passenger that was 16, the driver was 19. alcohol has the same affect on your 30 year old body that it has on the 19 year old driver. NOBODY should drink and drive, age has nothing to do with it. in europe the drinking age is 18 and younger if you want to drink, thats underage here, would you still blame it on being underage or are you the ignorant type that would then just blame it on the age and not being UNDERage? the fact is the driver did something stupid and paid for it, and now will be paying for it for a long long time.
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 04:39 AM
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INFLUENCE?!!! Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard, you cant blame YOUR stupid mistake on "everyon else was there doing it, so i felt compelled to do it too." how many of your so called friends helped you pay for your ride after it got wrecked? I bet not a single one. I do not feel sorry for this kid tearing up his car and here is why. #1. He was drinking under age! #2. The driver was 16!! #3. He was speeding DURING A RAINSTORM!!! #4. HE WAS DRINKING UNDER AGE!!!! He deserves whatever happens to him. and god help him if the family of the driver sues. ( the owner of the car was the passenger)

Ill be the first one in line at the junkyard to play vulture on his car, it looks like he had some nice mods.

Bottom line is this, Own up to your mistakes and be accountable.
I don't think that post was trying to say it's not the driver's fault, it was simply implying that it can be easy to make such tragic and large mistakes, whether you hold yourself accountable or not. #1. I drank at 19 and I'm sure 99% of kids that went to college did as well. I don't buy this argument. #2. The driver was 19; and it doesn't matter, repeated argument. #3. Speeding that much is never right, regardless of the weather. #4. Repeated the same argument again.

So in conclusion, you have one valid point: He was speeding. Take a look at the weekend battles section, you'll find that it's not all that uncommon.

I don't beleive anyone deserves to have this happen. I think that's quite an assanine thing to say, I'd expect a little more maturity from a 31 year old.

I think what he deserved was to get pinched by the cops, a $1500 fine, a year without a license, and the feel of steel on his wrists as he sits in the back of a transport car, destined for one of the hardest phone calls he's ever had to make to his parents. That's enough to teach 90% of kids not to make that mistake quite as easily again, as well as for those friends not to encourage that kind of behavior again.

To say that people, particularly KIDS, deserve to die or even come close to it because they make mistakes is wrong. I personally feel that if something like this had to happen, I'm very glad they hit a pole and not another driver. However, there are much more appropriate ways to teach young foolish and stupid people to make better choices without chalking it up to death or life impairment.
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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wow that sucks!!

definatley looks like someone one who would be on the org. tints, rims, red/clears, blues (struts), side mirrors, probably more i just watched the video real quick.

How come the light pole did not break away from the ground? I thought that it was a safety requirement for Highways and such ... Might have saved the passenger's life!
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drinking under age doesnt mean anything, and it was the passenger that was 16, the driver was 19. alcohol has the same affect on your 30 year old body that it has on the 19 year old driver. NOBODY should drink and drive, age has nothing to do with it. in europe the drinking age is 18 and younger if you want to drink, thats underage here, would you still blame it on being underage or are you the ignorant type that would then just blame it on the age and not being UNDERage? the fact is the driver did something stupid and paid for it, and now will be paying for it for a long long time.
first of all i dont drink, age i belive has everything to do with it, there are some 19 year olds that i know who make very wise decisions for their age and then there are those who are lemmings. Europe is Europe, if you embrace their laws on drinking so much then move there. Your right no one should drink and drive no matter the age. that i wont debate. But in europe its all fine and well to be 18 and drink legally, But this is the United states, 21 is the drinking age. There are laws in place for a reason, The previous poster brought up a secne where he said people were influenced by their friends to drink and then drive home. I say bull$hit on that, you make your own choices in life. and this driver made his choice, so do i feel sorry for him NO i dont. why? because he wanted to #1 break the law by speeding. #2 break the law by drinking underage. HE made these choices INFLUNCE has nothing to do with this.
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I don't think that post was trying to say it's not the driver's fault, it was simply implying that it can be easy to make such tragic and large mistakes, whether you hold yourself accountable or not. #1. I drank at 19 and I'm sure 99% of kids that went to college did as well. I don't buy this argument. #2. The driver was 19; and it doesn't matter, repeated argument. #3. Speeding that much is never right, regardless of the weather. #4. Repeated the same argument again.

So in conclusion, you have one valid point: He was speeding. Take a look at the weekend battles section, you'll find that it's not all that uncommon.

I don't beleive anyone deserves to have this happen. I think that's quite an assanine thing to say, I'd expect a little more maturity from a 31 year old.

I think what he deserved was to get pinched by the cops, a $1500 fine, a year without a license, and the feel of steel on his wrists as he sits in the back of a transport car, destined for one of the hardest phone calls he's ever had to make to his parents. That's enough to teach 90% of kids not to make that mistake quite as easily again, as well as for those friends not to encourage that kind of behavior again.

To say that people, particularly KIDS, deserve to die or even come close to it because they make mistakes is wrong. I personally feel that if something like this had to happen, I'm very glad they hit a pole and not another driver. However, there are much more appropriate ways to teach young foolish and stupid people to make better choices without chalking it up to death or life impairment.
You should search on the former member Affiro. Youll see my point.
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Araffio was on my mind when I saw this post.

The thing is, everyone knows how bad it is. It happened before, it happens now, and it will happen again. It is a real shame but thats the way things are.
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You should search on the former member Affiro. Youll see my point.
I did search and read a few things, not sure what you're getting at though


I must admit I am curious though...
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As am I. What is the deal with Affiro? Someone here? Is he/she ok?
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Affirro had one of the top 5 maximas to EVER come into the maxima community, http://www.cardomain.com/ride/212763 He was robbed at gunpoint of his car and then it was recovered, Stripped to the bone, then he gets a G35 coupe wrecks it and if i am not mistaken kills 1 of the passengers, or maybe it was 2, (it slips my mind) point is HE made the choice to be stupid and Speed, placing his passengers lives in his hands. There probaly was not any influence there, just choice plain and simple.

I mentioned that because the debate began about INFLUENCE vs. CHOICE. no one influenced that kid to drink and drive, no one influenced him to speed. Thoes were all choices HE MADE. and when all the smoke clears he will be in the same place as Affiro, Locked up for a long time relishing in the fact that he made a bad CHOICE. and that no one can be blamed but himself.

Yeah, its sad that there was an accident and people were hurt, but do i feel remorse for them. NO. Just the same as i feel no remorse for someone who climbs a 14,000 ft. Mountain and gets his @ss stuck, whenever i see that i say "That's what your @ss get for going up there."
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Just the same as i feel no remorse for someone who climbs a 14,000 ft. Mountain and gets his @ss stuck, whenever i see that i say "That's what your @ss get for going up there."
sounds like someone doesnt have any fun...i guess thats true, most fun isnt truly safe
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Oh, ok Blackwind,
Thank you. This was new to me. I wasn't familiar with the situation.
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Oh, ok Blackwind,
Thank you. This was new to me. I wasn't familiar with the situation.
no problem.
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sounds like someone doesnt have any fun...i guess thats true, most fun isnt truly safe
i have fun but its always behind a drumset.
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Affirro had one of the top 5 maximas to EVER come into the maxima community.
hahahahaha, he was poster boy for cheap *** custom maxima parts and his car was FAR from being one of the top 5 maximas ever.



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