LucentAUTO

me and my friends are dicussing about the future of nissan so i decide to post this, flame all you want but this is what I think.

1) why is nissan raising price(huge difference) and performance of altima? its certainly fast, its definitly looks bigger and better than the previous generation, howeverthe price is crazy.
2) maxima = new altima ? yes?
3) a family wants to buy a mid price nissan will buy what?
a altima that cost 24-28k or a small sentra that is way not practical for a "normal family".
4) the new g35 ( or the GTR version ) will cost 50,000. how will it compete with clk, m3, carrera, s4. you really think anyone will buy a cheap looking G34 wannabe american version of the GTR for 50,000?
5) i heard nissan will get rid of 130/35 and replace it will g35? if this is true, wat is nissan aiming at? competing it with 3 series or the c sedan or a4. with the current spec and price, i wonder how many g35 sedan will nissan sell.
6) q45's rear camera looks like the a small box got stuck under the trunk. it seems as if nissan put that crap on at the end of due date. are they trying to be original? in the ads, q45 claims to have the brightest HID, wow! it does 0-60 5.9 secs. I hope they know that most people who buy luxury sedan dont really care about the speed.
6) so wat is nissan up to? are they TRYIng to upgrade themselves? the 2k2 maxima will cost 30-31 (GLE or se), who da heck will spend 30k on a maxima. maxima will always be a maxima. In my mind its still a family sedan with a little bid of sportyness inside. its not a luxury sedan.
so wat's next, building a roadster that aims for slk and m roadster or will they team up with stillen to be the next benz/amg ?

NickStam

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call up mr nissan

Craig Mack

Why does a sporty car always have to be a coupe with 2 doors ? Civics, Preludes, Camero's, Firebirds, Mustangs, Eclipses...

I'm sure you are familier with BMW. Take a look at their M3's. Outstanding handling, Performance, quality. Could rape most cars put in front of it. But they have 4 doors and are Sports sedans, right ? I think a Maxima is like a lesser version of an M3. Nissan,BMW had more in mind than just speed or the title "sports car"

You don't think the maxima is that sporty. I know alot of people think like you to an extent and put the Maxima in the same category as a Camry, Accord, Miata, ect. "Who cares. the Maxima is just another 4-door family sedan, and nothing more."

The truth is, it's not. It's like Nissan had a family sedan in mind, but hinted "Sports car" for people like us on the .org. It's like getting a surprise bonus at work.

Having driven/in a Camry, Accord (4cyl. and V-6), I can definatally say that none can go to the lengths that a Maxima can.

What people don't seem to catch is the Nissan Maxima is the ONLY car to recieve "Wards Top Ten Engines" award what, 7-8 now times in a row ?

Well, I better stop before I get too carried away.

These are just my opinions that I wanted to be heard.

Take it easy.

emax02

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The estimated price of the G35 is 28-34K. It is not replacing the I35, rather it is replcing the G20. I personaly like what Nissan is doing with every thing, the only gripe I have is I wish the Altimas peak price was about 2 grand less.

pmar

It looks like a base GXE, which Nissan is scaling back on with production, costs just over 2 grand more than the 2001. That is not a wise move if you ask me. First of all, Maximas have had sales issues for 4 straight years now. The last thing you want to do is make it more expensive. The 5th gen is ugly, let's put our cards on the table. Many ordinary car buyers don't know/care about 255 hp, they see the same car in 2002 as 2001, only with a price of 2.2k more. Can you say lots with 80+ Maximas available?

If a new look came out/255 hp, multilink rear, then ok, raise the price by 2 grand.

LucentAUTO

russ: i thought someone posted on max.org that new altima will cost mid 20's. maxima will always be a maxima? well the path nissan is heading, is NOT going to be a maxima. nissan wants maxima to be like avalon.. or the low end infiniti. g35 gtr will cost 50,000. its in many magzs. where did u see the GTR for 30s? Thats probably the g35 sedan not the GTR.


craig mack: huh who ever said sport car has to be coupe. look at m5. tell me thats not sporty sedan. wat about e430 sport. however there's many different kinds of sport cars.
there's roadster sport
sedan
coupe
if you going to compare m3 with maxima, you are wrong my friend.

Nealoc187

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As I read this post, they are talking about the new Altima on Motorvision, it cost's $19,000-$22,600.

Since they have moved the Altima upscale, they have to do the same thing with the Maxima, otherwise they have 2 cars filling the same niche, and that's bad business. I think it's a good idea to move both cars upscale. I could care less how much a new Maxima costs. My loyalty is to PERFORMANCE, not to the Nissan brand name, and certainly not to the Maxima. If I could have gotten a 96 Altima with the same performance as my 96 Maxima, I would have bought the Altima in a second. IMHO, people that plan on buying only Maximas for the rest of their life because they think it's the be-all end-all of "sporty sedans" are crazy (it's not that great).

Oh, and try reading Craig Mack's post again... he said that the Maxima is NOT on the same level as the M3, and said that sporty cars DON'T have to be only 2 doors...

Menasor

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Where are you getting all this info this from. I didn't know there was going to be a GTR version of the G35. From what I have read and heard there is no current plan to release a GTR version, at least not yet.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LucentAUTO
maxima will always be a maxima? well the path nissan is heading, is NOT going to be a maxima. nissan wants maxima to be like avalon.. or the low end infiniti.
[QUOTE]

That's what I'm worried about, the Nissan straying away from the heritage of the Maxima, but we will have to just wait and see.

Craig Mack

EXACTLY

Thanks bro for the back-up.

Lucent,next time read what I say before coming to a conclusion and replying.

LucentAUTO

menacer: automobile mag saids GTR $50,000. it also talked about how nissan will compete with clk and m3.

MaDxKiLLa

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um.....the new max doesnt compete wid 5series, or LS or them.......... they are more upscale.....the new max should compete wid avalon....if we were to compete wid LExus and BMW and them we would be going against GS300 and 3 series....i probably would take the new maxima over GS300 and 3 series...more comfort then 3series and better performance and also better performance and suspension then GS300...anyways maxima would always be a great car...wish they made a GTR version hehe...

Afty

Those are BASE prices. Fully loaded V6 Altimas run up to $29,000. Try the "Build Your Altima" feature on www.nissandriven.com if you don't believe me, or check out Freshalloy's breakdown. I looked at a well equipped 5-speed V6 Altima this weekend that stickered at $27,000, and that was without automatic transmission, ABS package, traction control, and cold package.

LucentAUTO

craigL sorry i didnt read ur thing carefully.

russ: you see my question orginally was to ask how stupid nissan is. u are just proved that nissan is stupid.

WHO DA HECK gonna buy a maxima instead of a 5 series? Gs430?
even if nissan is aiming for the top line sedans, however whos gonna buy it. if maxima will be over 40k competing with 5 series, they are gonna lose my friend.
"you said maxima will always be a maxima" but then u are backup nissan by saying maxima will compete with 5 series. if maxima is still the sporty sedan now, how will it compare will 5 series, E class?

yes i agree with u g35 will be competing with i30, but GTR will be going against clk, m3.

altima is 30k after option my friend. if i said c coupe cost 25000$ u think it cost 25k? nope, it goes for 35$ after options.

LucentAUTO

hmm whats up with the automobile BS stuff? motor trend this month also has GTR pic.. its coming to U.S

Ludacris

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Altima tops at 29k, I think Nissan and Volkswagen have the same plan. In a year or so VW will come out with a $75k super-lux sedan competing with the S-Class, 7 Series, etc. I'm not really sure if it'll sell any considering people who buy those cars place a lot of importance on the brand. Nissan is pricing fast family sedans in the same range as near-lux sedans and people who buy near-lux sedans are just the same, they want the name too. A Nissan for $31k sounds better than a $75k VW at least

Menasor

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I know what you mean, i think it's done so that it can sell the magazine. If I saw that i would probaly buy it instead of just reading about it at the super market.

carnal_c30

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Well I dont like exactly what Nissan is doing, but I dont think any company has it straight. Even BMW, I hate the new 7-series, I think the remodeled 3-series sedan looks like a fat egg, The new BMW X-Coupe looks like it was put together from 5 different cars.
Nissan, I wish they brought back the 240SX from the Silvia S15 and put in the SR20DET or the newer engine. I wish the 5th gen Max wasnt so ugly (sorry guys i think it does compared to the 4th gen). I dont like the styling of the Infiniti G35, I wished the Maxima would stay in the Import mid-size instead of going to compete with the Avalon, I wish the new Altima was a little more bad-azz (lower not so fat)
what makes me even more pi$$ed is that the manufacturers have so much right but they screw up something major that turns me away.

Whats a consumer got to do?

mcros

I am dissapointed that Nissan will drop the GXE. For some of us this was the only way we could get into a Maxima. You can do all you want to the Altima, I am still not buying.

mcros

I read in Automotive News that the 2004 Maxima will no longer offer a GXE model. Just the GLE & SE