540i vs. MAX in high end race
09-05-2001, 05:24 PM
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My buddie's is purely stock now, no mods whatsoever, as he is very very afraid of warranty issues. He's one of those guys but one of the nicest people you'll meet.
The M5 is beast, and wanted one since 99, but with family plans who knows. I'm perfectly happy with the X5 purchase since it seems to be a bit tough and not to worried about it rocking and tipping due to the Sports Package. I feel confident that my wife will be safe in this vehicle.
PhatGuy, I don't doubt your experiences at all so let me make that clear. I too question some "race" stories I come accross so it's all good. I'm hoping to catch the next Maxima Meet in the DC area to see how far some have come since I've owned mine.
The M5 is beast, and wanted one since 99, but with family plans who knows. I'm perfectly happy with the X5 purchase since it seems to be a bit tough and not to worried about it rocking and tipping due to the Sports Package. I feel confident that my wife will be safe in this vehicle.
PhatGuy, I don't doubt your experiences at all so let me make that clear. I too question some "race" stories I come accross so it's all good. I'm hoping to catch the next Maxima Meet in the DC area to see how far some have come since I've owned mine.
09-05-2001, 05:27 PM
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Cool
Cool take care and good luck with the new family! You might not get that M5 till the kids are born, grow up and move out. Otherwise that is going to one bad grocery getter. 
Originally posted by AC's 540i/X5
My buddie's is purely stock now, no mods whatsoever, as he is very very afraid of warranty issues. He's one of those guys but one of the nicest people you'll meet.
The M5 is beast, and wanted one since 99, but with family plans who knows. I'm perfectly happy with the X5 purchase since it seems to be a bit tough and not to worried about it rocking and tipping due to the Sports Package. I feel confident that my wife will be safe in this vehicle.
PhatGuy, I don't doubt your experiences at all so let me make that clear. I too question some "race" stories I come accross so it's all good. I'm hoping to catch the next Maxima Meet in the DC area to see how far some have come since I've owned mine.
My buddie's is purely stock now, no mods whatsoever, as he is very very afraid of warranty issues. He's one of those guys but one of the nicest people you'll meet.
The M5 is beast, and wanted one since 99, but with family plans who knows. I'm perfectly happy with the X5 purchase since it seems to be a bit tough and not to worried about it rocking and tipping due to the Sports Package. I feel confident that my wife will be safe in this vehicle.
PhatGuy, I don't doubt your experiences at all so let me make that clear. I too question some "race" stories I come accross so it's all good. I'm hoping to catch the next Maxima Meet in the DC area to see how far some have come since I've owned mine.
09-06-2001, 07:25 AM
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Well no direct comment on this...
I took so much heat on this thread from other .org members already calling me names saying I'm full of it etc etc. I know they won't challenge yo on this one. They only challenge me because the way I come off and they don't like me. It's all good though! People are going to believe what they want to believe. Most (not all) races "story" threads have a lot of different opinions some are BS (most IMO) some are from experience. Not all cars are exactly the same and not everyone is pro driver that is what makes it interesting. If there was a Race Stories Forum on the .org most of our monitors would melt with the heat coming out of there! 
I know they won't challenge yo on this one. They only challenge me because the way I come off and they don't like me. It's all good though! People are going to believe what they want to believe. Most (not all) races "story" threads have a lot of different opinions some are BS (most IMO) some are from experience. Not all cars are exactly the same and not everyone is pro driver that is what makes it interesting. If there was a Race Stories Forum on the .org most of our monitors would melt with the heat coming out of there!
09-06-2001, 07:53 AM
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Yo it's OK, I totally understand your point of view. I never once doubted your knowledge of modding but that's besides the point.
I will stop posting anything related to this topic on the General Forum. Again, my intent was to try to find the guy with the White MAX but didn't realize it would get this far.
True, I don't own a MAX anymore but does that prohibit me from visiting this site and asking questions, commenting, etc? If you feel that it does, then hey I'll stop posting.
I was not trying to brag, etc. Who knows, maybe one day I may get another MAX and I know this is the right place to come for any relevent info if such needs arose.
Yo it's ok, I respect your opinion, and after all it's more your forum than it's mine since you've been here longer, own a MAX. For now I'll just be a spectator.
PhatGuy, it was nice meeting you and I'll PM you!
I will stop posting anything related to this topic on the General Forum. Again, my intent was to try to find the guy with the White MAX but didn't realize it would get this far.
True, I don't own a MAX anymore but does that prohibit me from visiting this site and asking questions, commenting, etc? If you feel that it does, then hey I'll stop posting.
I was not trying to brag, etc. Who knows, maybe one day I may get another MAX and I know this is the right place to come for any relevent info if such needs arose.
Yo it's ok, I respect your opinion, and after all it's more your forum than it's mine since you've been here longer, own a MAX. For now I'll just be a spectator.
PhatGuy, it was nice meeting you and I'll PM you!
09-06-2001, 12:23 PM
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Those of you who participated in this thread that have gotten on my nerves before (and, yes, you know who you are) don't seem to have understood previous warnings (and those that have been warned know who you are as well). Therefore, the deletions of your posts is a friendly reminder.
Start this crap up again in this or any other thread in a forum I moderate and banishment will be pursued. It's not a threat; it's a promise.
I've received several complaints via e-mail on the problem members, and it has been noted for the record. I don't like being inconvenienced with such e-mails, nor do I appreciate our upstanding members having to waste their time to complain about the problem members. Again, you know who you are, so try and conduct yourselves like adults instead of children.
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09-06-2001, 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
No I don't think so. But a ~245HP(modded) 5spd 5th gen 3200lbs Max can run with a 540Auto (not 6spd) up to certain speeds (I would say 110-120). When the 6spd 255HP Max comes out later this month and few mods installed it will "rip" 330's no problem (if a modded 222HP can the 255 will kill it) and easily beat or run with most Bimmers on the Road especially older M3. That is a lot of bang for the buck!
No I don't think so. But a ~245HP(modded) 5spd 5th gen 3200lbs Max can run with a 540Auto (not 6spd) up to certain speeds (I would say 110-120). When the 6spd 255HP Max comes out later this month and few mods installed it will "rip" 330's no problem (if a modded 222HP can the 255 will kill it) and easily beat or run with most Bimmers on the Road especially older M3. That is a lot of bang for the buck!
"if a modded 222HP can the 255 will kill it) and easily beat or run with most Bimmers on the Road especially older M3. "
easily beat MOST bimmers ESPECIALLY older m3? the older m3 i believe, correct me if im wrong, is 0-60 in 5.5? so u are saying the new maxima will crush the 5.5sec m3, so in another word the new maxima will run high 4's and low 5's?
Did u know the 2003 z350 will run low 6's and the maxima is faster than nissan sports car?
09-06-2001, 03:41 PM
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Since you asked?
On a roll no doubt about it! An NA modded 5psd 5th gen can run with an older M3 (till 1999) on the highway. Ask kev(in his auto even), flipmode_cali and a few others. A modded 255hp 6spd is going to be a beast it will pull on one of the older M3 on a roll up to 130 easy!
Originally posted by LucentAUTO
phatguy: not to be a a$$ but some of ur claims are little overboard. "
"if a modded 222HP can the 255 will kill it) and easily beat or run with most Bimmers on the Road especially older M3. "
easily beat MOST bimmers ESPECIALLY older m3? the older m3 i believe, correct me if im wrong, is 0-60 in 5.5? so u are saying the new maxima will crush the 5.5sec m3, so in another word the new maxima will run high 4's and low 5's?
Did u know the 2003 z350 will run low 6's and the maxima is faster than nissan sports car?
phatguy: not to be a a$$ but some of ur claims are little overboard. "
"if a modded 222HP can the 255 will kill it) and easily beat or run with most Bimmers on the Road especially older M3. "
easily beat MOST bimmers ESPECIALLY older m3? the older m3 i believe, correct me if im wrong, is 0-60 in 5.5? so u are saying the new maxima will crush the 5.5sec m3, so in another word the new maxima will run high 4's and low 5's?
Did u know the 2003 z350 will run low 6's and the maxima is faster than nissan sports car?
09-06-2001, 03:54 PM
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Re: Since you asked?
Originally posted by PhatGuy
On a roll no doubt about it! An NA modded 5psd 5th gen can run with an older M3 (till 1999) on the highway. Ask kev(in his auto even), flipmode_cali and a few others. A modded 255hp 6spd is going to be a beast it will pull on one of the older M3 on a roll up to 130 easy!
On a roll no doubt about it! An NA modded 5psd 5th gen can run with an older M3 (till 1999) on the highway. Ask kev(in his auto even), flipmode_cali and a few others. A modded 255hp 6spd is going to be a beast it will pull on one of the older M3 on a roll up to 130 easy!
09-06-2001, 03:57 PM
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AC 540/X5: You're going to have some really lucky kids man! Daddy's got a 540i and a X5!! And maybe a M5 later...damnnn!! Don't let them drive the M5, even its gonna be 16 years old by the time they drive..hehe!!
Btw to the guy who said that Mercedes makes the auto trannys for BMW, actually GM does. That's right..General Motors. They supply 5-speed auto trannys to BMW. GM hasn't put them in their own cars yet, but they will soon in the new Caddy's I think.
Btw to the guy who said that Mercedes makes the auto trannys for BMW, actually GM does. That's right..General Motors. They supply 5-speed auto trannys to BMW. GM hasn't put them in their own cars yet, but they will soon in the new Caddy's I think.
09-06-2001, 04:14 PM
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Again since you asked?
Here we go again! Speculation? Believe what you want to.. Ask Kev and Flip_mode who have both run M3 on the highway. Only stating what others have stated. As for magazine times you seem to only relate to them vs experience by a lot of members that is why I refer to them. As for new Stock 5spd hardtop Mustangs running 14.2?? Very very rarely will you see that. Most times you see in Real Life at the track are in the mid-high 14's. An NA Modded 255HP 6spd will easily pull on a stock 1999 M3 on the highway (up to about 130) let alone 90% of bimmers on the road. No doubt about it! You say I don't have a clue? Man guy you really don't have a clue sorry!
And yes I have driven a 2000 540auto and a 97' M3 manual.
And yes I have driven a 2000 540auto and a 97' M3 manual.
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
BS..Phatguy you really need to get a clue. You base all your arguements on speculation. Have you ever driven a M3 or 540i for any length of time?? You seem to get most of your raw data from C&D... For example when i posted about 99+ Mustangs running 14.7's at my track, you countered that C&D tested them at 14.8. The C&D article you were refering to was a AUTO CONVERTIBLE. Not a Coupe 5 speed, which should run about 14.2 or so.
BS..Phatguy you really need to get a clue. You base all your arguements on speculation. Have you ever driven a M3 or 540i for any length of time?? You seem to get most of your raw data from C&D... For example when i posted about 99+ Mustangs running 14.7's at my track, you countered that C&D tested them at 14.8. The C&D article you were refering to was a AUTO CONVERTIBLE. Not a Coupe 5 speed, which should run about 14.2 or so.
09-06-2001, 04:20 PM
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As you can see I didn't start this!! I've never had my Maxima to the track sorry. And that has nothing to do with the content of the thread, my experience on the road nor the last few posts. Grow up and stop trying to start crap!
Your too funny! I make a comment that you think is total BS. Others can backup what I say but you still don''t believe it and only question me about it. Hillarious! Feel free to use PM! Thanks!
Your too funny! I make a comment that you think is total BS. Others can backup what I say but you still don''t believe it and only question me about it. Hillarious! Feel free to use PM! Thanks!
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Show me your time slip at a 1/4 mile track and I will shut up.
Show me your time slip at a 1/4 mile track and I will shut up.
09-06-2001, 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
As you can see I didn't start this!! I've never had my car to the track sorry. And that has nothing to do with the content of the thread nor the last few posts. Grow up and stop trying to start crap!
Go whine to a moderator or something.
As you can see I didn't start this!! I've never had my car to the track sorry. And that has nothing to do with the content of the thread nor the last few posts. Grow up and stop trying to start crap!
Go whine to a moderator or something.
09-06-2001, 04:37 PM
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Assumptions?
Actually I go to the track quite often and witness all sorts of cars/races. I use my Maxima for work and pleasure not for racing on the track. Just because you ran your car and pulled off a whooping 90.4 trap speed doesn't mean jack (to me there seems to be something wrong)! Oh ya Kev ran the M3 before he had the SC sorry I had to mention that to you. Also Flip_mode is a 5spd 5th gen with intake and Y and ran one up to 140+. No offence based on your track times I really don't want to see those videos. Did I say the 222hp modded car was faster? I said they are very close ie. run with it and flip held a lead. And the 6spd 255hp with mods is going to kill a 1999 M3 on a roll no doubt! The M3 would beat a Maxima off the line no question on a roll that is another story. (assuming the max driver knows how to drive and there is a Y-pipe and intake without any problems). Your always the first to come off abrasive on me so why not chill now especially after Bill's post!
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Yeah it does....you seem to know what every car runs performance wise and you have never even been to a track to witness these times. Now once again Phatguy, I would like to know where u get your info from. Basing that Kev raced a M3 isnt very fair since he is S/C. My friend has a 97 Auto M3, I will race him and post videos of the M3's tail if you would like.
Yeah it does....you seem to know what every car runs performance wise and you have never even been to a track to witness these times. Now once again Phatguy, I would like to know where u get your info from. Basing that Kev raced a M3 isnt very fair since he is S/C. My friend has a 97 Auto M3, I will race him and post videos of the M3's tail if you would like.
09-06-2001, 08:50 PM
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I said a modded 6spd on a roll. Because look at the stock power of the car on the same chasis as the 2k? Now put an intake and other exhaust work and that thing is going to be up to 275+ easy (let alone the torque increase on top of the 246ft/lbs) in ~3300lbs car. Damn even a modded Altima 5spd is going to put a lot of cars to shame. Lets hope there isn't anymore power lost through the tranny than the 2K-2k1 to lay that power down to the wheels. There is no question in my mind that it would pull away from a stock 1999 (auto or manual) M3 up to at least 130. If Nissan releases a dud 255HP 6spd car well all I can say is I was wrong. But I would be putting my money on the Max for sure!
Originally posted by costcowholesale
how did you know that a 2002 max 6spd WILL beat an 1999 M3 on a roll with no doubts?
how did you know that a 2002 max 6spd WILL beat an 1999 M3 on a roll with no doubts?
09-07-2001, 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by costcowholesale
how did you know that a 2002 max 6spd WILL beat an 1999 M3 on a roll with no doubts?
how did you know that a 2002 max 6spd WILL beat an 1999 M3 on a roll with no doubts?
Who the heck can beat death?
09-07-2001, 08:14 AM
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I figured since you edited the comments it was ok for me to re-open it.. shall i close it? or you don't mind me leaving it open?
Originally posted by bill99gxe
Yes......but I should be working where I actually get paid though.....
I also see you opened the thread back up......
Yes......but I should be working where I actually get paid though.....
I also see you opened the thread back up......
