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Why won't 2002 use a 5spd auto?

Old Oct 3, 2001 | 11:14 AM
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Why won't 2002 use a 5spd auto?

If their offering a six speed manual, why not a 5 speed auto? If they did, it would be nice to frankenstein one onto an earlier model.
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 11:20 AM
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That's what Nissan is saving for the future Maxima. Have to save something to entice you guys to buy it in the near future.
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Ken
That's what Nissan is saving for the future Maxima.
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Fact or fanciful fiction?
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 11:32 AM
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it's still an auto
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 11:39 AM
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Nissan is cheap and is more interested in smoke and mirror tactics rather than acutal revolutionary change.
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by NickStam
it's still an auto
True, but I'm looking for hope for my now outdated auto 4th gen. If we could match up a 5spd auto tranny, then I would be all the happier. I know that the 3.5 VQ is different internally, but is it different enough to changed the transmition? Anybody know any solid info about the new 2002 tranny and possible 5sp auto?
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 12:18 PM
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Nisan is Sooooo Lazy....
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 12:23 PM
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Nisan is Sooooo Lazy....
Almost as lazy as spelling Nissan with one S? If they did make a 5spd auto I think everyone would just complain about the even higher price, you can't have it both ways... At least it doesn't come with a 3spd like the Neon.

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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 12:39 PM
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lets assume that Nissan won't make one. Anybody try to make one for their 4sp auto? I have no idea what the cost would be, but I'm sure fast auto drag guys like Don would benifit from it.
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Frezny

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Little hint: look for the new G35 by Infiniti 2002
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Ken


Little hint: look for the new G35 by Infiniti 2002
different engine.
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 02:32 PM
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4th gen isn't outdated, the 3rd gen is
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Frezny


different engine.

It's still a 3.5L V6 in typical VQ form. It might have some tweaks, but it will be the same engine. Transmission will be different though, since it will be RWD. I would not be surprised if both the G35 and 2003 Z-car share transmission choices (5-spd auto and 6-spd manual).
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by speednsound007


Almost as lazy as spelling Nissan with one S?

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Nah, a little more lazy than that!
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 03:17 PM
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If nissan makes a 5spd auto, it'll probably be like the TL's auto with a some high a$$ 5th gear that is pretty much nonusable.
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by NickStam
it's still an auto
I agree....

f&f voice: "it doesn't matter if you put in 4 gears or 5 - an automagic is an automagic"
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 03:22 PM
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I agree....

f&f voice: "it doesn't matter if you put in 4 gears or 5 - an automagic is an automagic"
not if its a CVT automatic = unlimited gears!
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 07:54 PM
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Brings back memories of what Nissan did with the 92 MAX and the VE before the 4th gen's came out.
Old Oct 3, 2001 | 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by costcowholesale
If nissan makes a 5spd auto, it'll probably be like the TL's auto with a some high a$$ 5th gear that is pretty much nonusable.
yup that's what the problem will be. i would sacrifice gas mileage for some smaller gears on the auto. like instead of third ending at 120 have 4th end at 130 and work down from there. then just plop a 5th that would go to 160 to get good mileage. other than real thought and racing going into the design 5-spd auto are a ploy. look at a TL. 5-spd auto's but they aren't really FAST. 4th and 5th are garbage.
Old Oct 4, 2001 | 06:48 AM
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Like some are saying, it's still an automatic. If you bought a max to own the tracks/streets with speed alone....well, one, I think you bought a max for the wrong reason, and two, what are you doing with an auto? If someone swapped out their 4th-gen 4-speed auto for a 5-speed auto to gain speed...heh...what a bunch of work/money for something rather insignificant.

It's still a 3.5L V6 in typical VQ form. It might have some tweaks, but it will be the same engine. Transmission will be different though, since it will be RWD.
I've just assumed it would be the same engine in the G35. But because its RWD, I question the orientation of the engine under the hood when compared to the fwd 3.5 VQs, and as such, different locations for things and different hose routings, etc. But I dunno.
Old Oct 4, 2001 | 06:55 AM
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It would just be nice to have 5 gears stepped different than the 4 gears to get a better output of power to the wheels, that's all. My thinking may be off, but that's what I'm guessing.
Old Oct 4, 2001 | 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Frezny
It would just be nice to have 5 gears stepped different than the 4 gears to get a better output of power to the wheels, that's all. My thinking may be off, but that's what I'm guessing.
you'd still have that same parasitic loss to the wheels with any auto. it would have to be geared for straight up acceleration to do anything at all.
Old Oct 5, 2001 | 01:06 PM
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you'd still have that same parasitic loss to the wheels with any auto. it would have to be geared for straight up acceleration to do anything at all.
Yeah, but would a modded VB and torque converter give it enough integrity to overcome "most" automatic transmition power loss and thus allow 5 gears to better distribute the power?
Old Oct 5, 2001 | 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Frezny


Yeah, but would a modded VB and torque converter give it enough integrity to overcome "most" automatic transmition power loss and thus allow 5 gears to better distribute the power?
no, a vb makes your shift faster, and a torque converter might help it distribute the power a little better but it would make daily "normal" driving very weird. a high stall TQ is not for a daily driver car. the most you will see is a few hp shift in the cure and no more peak at the wheels. auto's suck.
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