Guys with clunky and rattiling suspensions (esp Intrax)...new fix
10-05-2001, 10:05 PM
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Guys with clunky and rattiling suspensions (esp Intrax)...new fix
After installing my Intrax springs in place of my ST springs two weeks ago, I was blessed with some rattling/buzzing and overall clunkiness from my suspension over rutted and rough surfaces. They never made any noise over big bumps which led me to think it was something to do with the coil themselves. I was perplexed because I had installed everything correctly. Tonight while screwing around with my car (as usual), I jacked up the front end and inspected the front coils. Sure enough, it was very clear to me that the upper two coils were rubbing each other as observed by the worn paint on the coils. This makes complete sense to why I got noise over rough surfaces, but not on bumps. When the springs are only slightly compressed over rough surfaces they rub and rattle on each other, but on big bumps they are fully touching each other. I fixed this problem by cutting some clear vinyl tubing and placing it over the rubbing coils. I did the same in the rears. Sure enough on all the surfaces the springs moan/rattle/buzz were all gone. They were solid. No noises. The car also rode better which leads me to believe the coils were transmitting vibration. It was 40 degrees outside and the car felt solid. I am very happy.
Simply put, if you are going to use some of the lower springs available (Sprint/Intrax), it may be necessary to add spring isolaters to the upper coils too.
Dave
Simply put, if you are going to use some of the lower springs available (Sprint/Intrax), it may be necessary to add spring isolaters to the upper coils too.
Dave
10-05-2001, 10:48 PM
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Re: Guys with clunky and rattiling suspensions (esp Intrax)...new fix
Originally posted by Dave B
After installing my Intrax springs in place of my ST springs two weeks ago, I was blessed with some rattling/buzzing and overall clunkiness from my suspension over rutted and rough surfaces. They never made any noise over big bumps which led me to think it was something to do with the coil themselves. I was perplexed because I had installed everything correctly. Tonight while screwing around with my car (as usual), I jacked up the front end and inspected the front coils. Sure enough, it was very clear to me that the upper two coils were rubbing each other as observed by the worn paint on the coils. This makes complete sense to why I got noise over rough surfaces, but not on bumps. When the springs are only slightly compressed over rough surfaces they rub and rattle on each other, but on big bumps they are fully touching each other. I fixed this problem by cutting some clear vinyl tubing and placing it over the rubbing coils. I did the same in the rears. Sure enough on all the surfaces the springs moan/rattle/buzz were all gone. They were solid. No noises. The car also rode better which leads me to believe the coils were transmitting vibration. It was 40 degrees outside and the car felt solid. I am very happy.
Simply put, if you are going to use some of the lower springs available (Sprint/Intrax), it may be necessary to add spring isolaters to the upper coils too.
Thanks for the great write up Dave, this probably explains why my sprints squeek over little bumps.
Dave
After installing my Intrax springs in place of my ST springs two weeks ago, I was blessed with some rattling/buzzing and overall clunkiness from my suspension over rutted and rough surfaces. They never made any noise over big bumps which led me to think it was something to do with the coil themselves. I was perplexed because I had installed everything correctly. Tonight while screwing around with my car (as usual), I jacked up the front end and inspected the front coils. Sure enough, it was very clear to me that the upper two coils were rubbing each other as observed by the worn paint on the coils. This makes complete sense to why I got noise over rough surfaces, but not on bumps. When the springs are only slightly compressed over rough surfaces they rub and rattle on each other, but on big bumps they are fully touching each other. I fixed this problem by cutting some clear vinyl tubing and placing it over the rubbing coils. I did the same in the rears. Sure enough on all the surfaces the springs moan/rattle/buzz were all gone. They were solid. No noises. The car also rode better which leads me to believe the coils were transmitting vibration. It was 40 degrees outside and the car felt solid. I am very happy.
Simply put, if you are going to use some of the lower springs available (Sprint/Intrax), it may be necessary to add spring isolaters to the upper coils too.
Thanks for the great write up Dave, this probably explains why my sprints squeek over little bumps.
Dave
10-06-2001, 01:20 AM
#3
Thanks Dave!
I'm hoping this will solve my 2 year old problem... it's funny but on my car, the sound is mostly on the driver's front only... I'll be plenty happy if this solves the problem. I also tried the retightening of the Koni inserts on the bottom of the strut assembly to no avail...
One question... can you give a little more info on the type of vinyl tubing and perhaps where you got it? Thanks again...
I'm hoping this will solve my 2 year old problem... it's funny but on my car, the sound is mostly on the driver's front only... I'll be plenty happy if this solves the problem. I also tried the retightening of the Koni inserts on the bottom of the strut assembly to no avail...
One question... can you give a little more info on the type of vinyl tubing and perhaps where you got it? Thanks again...
10-06-2001, 10:11 AM
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Re: Guys with clunky and rattiling suspensions (esp Intrax)...new fix
Originally posted by Dave B
After installing my Intrax springs in place of my ST springs two weeks ago, I was blessed with some rattling/buzzing and overall clunkiness from my suspension over rutted and rough surfaces. They never made any noise over big bumps which led me to think it was something to do with the coil themselves. I was perplexed because I had installed everything correctly. Tonight while screwing around with my car (as usual), I jacked up the front end and inspected the front coils. Sure enough, it was very clear to me that the upper two coils were rubbing each other as observed by the worn paint on the coils. This makes complete sense to why I got noise over rough surfaces, but not on bumps. When the springs are only slightly compressed over rough surfaces they rub and rattle on each other, but on big bumps they are fully touching each other. I fixed this problem by cutting some clear vinyl tubing and placing it over the rubbing coils. I did the same in the rears. Sure enough on all the surfaces the springs moan/rattle/buzz were all gone. They were solid. No noises. The car also rode better which leads me to believe the coils were transmitting vibration. It was 40 degrees outside and the car felt solid. I am very happy.
Simply put, if you are going to use some of the lower springs available (Sprint/Intrax), it may be necessary to add spring isolaters to the upper coils too.
Dave
After installing my Intrax springs in place of my ST springs two weeks ago, I was blessed with some rattling/buzzing and overall clunkiness from my suspension over rutted and rough surfaces. They never made any noise over big bumps which led me to think it was something to do with the coil themselves. I was perplexed because I had installed everything correctly. Tonight while screwing around with my car (as usual), I jacked up the front end and inspected the front coils. Sure enough, it was very clear to me that the upper two coils were rubbing each other as observed by the worn paint on the coils. This makes complete sense to why I got noise over rough surfaces, but not on bumps. When the springs are only slightly compressed over rough surfaces they rub and rattle on each other, but on big bumps they are fully touching each other. I fixed this problem by cutting some clear vinyl tubing and placing it over the rubbing coils. I did the same in the rears. Sure enough on all the surfaces the springs moan/rattle/buzz were all gone. They were solid. No noises. The car also rode better which leads me to believe the coils were transmitting vibration. It was 40 degrees outside and the car felt solid. I am very happy.
Simply put, if you are going to use some of the lower springs available (Sprint/Intrax), it may be necessary to add spring isolaters to the upper coils too.
Dave
10-06-2001, 05:02 PM
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I've got this done to rear springs as well.
This tubing is available at any home improvement store. I used 1/2" clear vinyl tubing. You'll find it in the plumbing section. Cut the tubing in a spiral shape so that it stays on the spring. You don't have to remove the springs or anything.
Dave
This tubing is available at any home improvement store. I used 1/2" clear vinyl tubing. You'll find it in the plumbing section. Cut the tubing in a spiral shape so that it stays on the spring. You don't have to remove the springs or anything.
Dave
10-07-2001, 12:50 AM
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Re: Dave B
Originally posted by gtr_rider
You've got mail
You've got mail
Dave
10-07-2001, 01:28 AM
#10
Yippee!
Noise is gone! Took me all day to find the stuff though... I found/used 3/4" spiral wrap.... 5 feet for $4.60! I think I'll go back for a second pack for the rears (even though they appear quiet)... I got the stuff at MarVac in Pasadena for those of you in this area.
Noise is gone! Took me all day to find the stuff though... I found/used 3/4" spiral wrap.... 5 feet for $4.60! I think I'll go back for a second pack for the rears (even though they appear quiet)... I got the stuff at MarVac in Pasadena for those of you in this area.
10-07-2001, 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by Chunger
Yippee!
Noise is gone! Took me all day to find the stuff though... I found/used 3/4" spiral wrap.... 5 feet for $4.60! I think I'll go back for a second pack for the rears (even though they appear quiet)... I got the stuff at MarVac in Pasadena for those of you in this area.
Yippee!
Noise is gone! Took me all day to find the stuff though... I found/used 3/4" spiral wrap.... 5 feet for $4.60! I think I'll go back for a second pack for the rears (even though they appear quiet)... I got the stuff at MarVac in Pasadena for those of you in this area.
10-07-2001, 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Chunger
Yippee!
Noise is gone! Took me all day to find the stuff though... I found/used 3/4" spiral wrap.... 5 feet for $4.60! I think I'll go back for a second pack for the rears (even though they appear quiet)... I got the stuff at MarVac in Pasadena for those of you in this area.
Yippee!
Noise is gone! Took me all day to find the stuff though... I found/used 3/4" spiral wrap.... 5 feet for $4.60! I think I'll go back for a second pack for the rears (even though they appear quiet)... I got the stuff at MarVac in Pasadena for those of you in this area.
10-07-2001, 07:42 AM
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Re: Re: Dave B
Originally posted by Dave B
e-mail me at thunderlt1@earthlink.net or post here. My listed e-mail is my work e-mail and I won't be looking at it for a while.
Dave
e-mail me at thunderlt1@earthlink.net or post here. My listed e-mail is my work e-mail and I won't be looking at it for a while.
Dave
10-07-2001, 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by seouljah
yo im from arcadia could you give me the address of marvac?
yo im from arcadia could you give me the address of marvac?
VQ... it's just a wire loom but instead of it being split down the middle (and using hard plastic) it is cut in a spiral pattern... the 3/4" is pretty thick... Just gotta see how durable it is.. but for $5.. I wouldn't mind having to replace it once in a while (I don't think that will be necessary though)...
10-08-2001, 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
My suspension has NEVER made a sound.
My suspension has NEVER made a sound.
10-09-2001, 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by slammed95
Cool to know that there are other fixed-up-max owners in my area. I live in Alhambra. Near Huntington Dr. and Garfield Ave. Close to the IN-N-OUT burgers.
Cool to know that there are other fixed-up-max owners in my area. I live in Alhambra. Near Huntington Dr. and Garfield Ave. Close to the IN-N-OUT burgers.
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